Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-30 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 06:02:47PM +0200, Tadej Janež wrote: Another very convincing argument why we want to move away from SF is the behavior of their new owner: We'd all like to move away from SF. There is just work to do for this, and so far nobody has been able to free time. G

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-30 Thread Tadej Janež
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 11:52 +0200, Gael Varoquaux wrote: We'd all like to move away from SF. There is just work to do for this, and so far nobody has been able to free time. No problem, I understand. I just shared this as I didn't know if you were already convinced or not. Best regards,

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Andreas Mueller
On 08/29/2013 08:55 AM, Eustache DIEMERT wrote: +1 Apart form the ml and binaries hosting, is there other stuff from SF we rely on ? The website unfortunately :-/ -- Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Mathieu Blondel
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Andreas Mueller amuel...@ais.uni-bonn.dewrote: On 08/29/2013 08:55 AM, Eustache DIEMERT wrote: +1 Apart form the ml and binaries hosting, is there other stuff from SF we rely on ? The website unfortunately :-/ On a related note, I noticed recently

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Eustache DIEMERT
For the website I believe we could host it on github directly [1] as it's 100% static I believe. Maybe all the binaries could go there too. [1] http://pages.github.com/ 2013/8/29 Mathieu Blondel math...@mblondel.org On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Andreas Mueller amuel...@ais.uni-bonn.de

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Nelle Varoquaux
On 29 August 2013 09:31, Eustache DIEMERT eusta...@diemert.fr wrote: For the website I believe we could host it on github directly [1] as it's 100% static I believe. Github doesn't support redirection and we need those for the different version of the websites. Moving to github isn't an

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Eustache DIEMERT
Mmm not sure what you mean by redirection, but it seems we can setup a custom domain with Github Pages : https://help.github.com/articles/setting-up-a-custom-domain-with-pages FWIW 2013/8/29 Nelle Varoquaux nelle.varoqu...@gmail.com On 29 August 2013 09:31, Eustache DIEMERT

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Andreas Mueller
On 08/29/2013 11:00 AM, Nelle Varoquaux wrote: On 29 August 2013 09:31, Eustache DIEMERT eusta...@diemert.fr mailto:eusta...@diemert.fr wrote: For the website I believe we could host it on github directly [1] as it's 100% static I believe. Github doesn't support redirection and

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
These cannot replace our current setup. We could/should think about changing our setup, but that requires work. The two most important aspect are that the home page http://scikit-learn.org points to the stable documentation, and that the stable and 0.14 are valid links. The first point is starting

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 09:07:08AM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: They are also on pypi: https://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=displayname=scikit-learnversion=0.14.1 Good point. I think that we can probably get rid of SF and rely on pypi. We will however have to unhide previous binaries. Gaël

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Vlad Niculae
It's about redirecting /dev and /stable to the appropriate fixed paths. Actually I remember that this has been looked into, I vaguely remember a thread a while back. I think the problem is that we couldn't move to github while keeping all the old links and looking the same in the eyes of the

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
Mmm not sure what you mean by redirection, URL rewrites. Have a look at our .htaccess. There are a lot of things going on that make the website seemless. G -- Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013,

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:16:37PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: I think never really looked into that. I heard this claim a couple of times but never got any real facts. Have a look at our .htaccess. You'll understand the problem quite quickly. Github doesn't support url rewrites.

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:19:24PM +0300, Vlad Niculae wrote: It's about redirecting /dev and /stable to the appropriate fixed paths.  Actually I remember that this has been looked into, I vaguely remember a thread a while back. I think that the new build layout is a step forward in

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Andreas Mueller
On 08/29/2013 12:21 PM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:16:37PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: I think never really looked into that. I heard this claim a couple of times but never got any real facts. Have a look at our .htaccess. You'll understand the problem quite

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Andreas Mueller
On 08/29/2013 12:18 PM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 09:07:08AM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: They are also on pypi: https://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=displayname=scikit-learnversion=0.14.1 Good point. I think that we can probably get rid of SF and rely on pypi. We will

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:27:45PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: Why can't we just put the content of the stable website in the main folder and the dev website in this folder? This is the way it used to be, but the risk is to run into collisions. However, we could move the main index.html one

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Andreas Mueller
On 08/29/2013 01:30 PM, Andreas Mueller wrote: On 08/29/2013 01:27 PM, Andreas Mueller wrote: On 08/29/2013 12:21 PM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:16:37PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: I think never really looked into that. I heard this claim a couple of times

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
+ have a symlink from /stable to / (or do a rewrite there and remove stable later on). I don't think that github will support that. Do you know that for a fact? That would solve most of our problems. G -- Learn the

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Andreas Mueller
On 08/29/2013 01:35 PM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:27:45PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: Why can't we just put the content of the stable website in the main folder and the dev website in this folder? This is the way it used to be, but the risk is to run into collisions.

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:35:02PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: Sorry, I meant redirect, not rewrite. Btw, github pages use jekyll, which supports automatic rewrites of directories. OK, that might be a way forward. Anybody interested in prototyping this? Gaël

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Olivier Grisel
2013/8/29 Andreas Mueller amuel...@ais.uni-bonn.de: I'd favor the redirect /stable to / solution to the redirect / to stable solution, but both have their pros and cons. Collisions are possible, but only if we have a subfolder on the website called dev, 0.14 (or any other X.X), which I would

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:47:26PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: As far as I understood (90% certainty), github supports automatic redirects via jekyll (it will generate loads of /stable/auto_examples/.. files that redirect to /auto_examples/...). I am perfectly happy to drop the

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Andreas Mueller
On 08/29/2013 01:55 PM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: Collisions are possible, but only if we have a subfolder on the website called dev, 0.14 (or any other X.X), It's not only about collisions, it's also that I find the URL more explicit. I'd be fine with either one. I won't have time to work on it

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Olivier Grisel
2013/8/29 Gael Varoquaux gael.varoqu...@normalesup.org: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:47:26PM +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: As far as I understood (90% certainty), github supports automatic redirects via jekyll (it will generate loads of /stable/auto_examples/.. files that redirect to

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-29 Thread Tadej Janež
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 12:18 +0200, Gael Varoquaux wrote: Good point. I think that we can probably get rid of SF and rely on pypi. Another very convincing argument why we want to move away from SF is the behavior of their new owner: Dice, the new owners, strongly encourage the top projects to

[Scikit-learn-general] Files at sourceforge

2013-08-28 Thread Andreas Mueller
Hey everybody. I was just alerted by Sean Voilante that 1) there was no tarball for 0.14.1 on sourceforge 2) the tarball for 0.14.a1 was 100mb. It seems someone (me?) forgot to upload the tarballs. I fixed the 0.14.a1 on pypi, but apparently not on sourceforge. I was just wondering if it is