Re: [scots-l] The Kirk

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going through McGibbon's Scots Tunes (1762, according to Glen) and found a tune called An the Kirk wad let me be. I thought also of the title De'il Stick the Minister, also from the mid-18th century, and wondered if there was a connection. Perhaps some kind of

Re: [scots-l] Old Age and Young

Steve Wyrick wrote: Bruce Olson wrote: There are some 'old age and young' (and 'Ages of Man') songs since the late 16th century, and I'll take a look at them when I can, but it will be a fews days from now (Monday) at least. Bruce Olson I'd appreciate any information you have

Re: [scots-l] Old Age and Young

(Monday) at least. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, and broadside ballads at my no-spam website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click here for homepage (= subject index) /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List

Re: [scots-l] Jig classifications

staggeryde on the stonnys. Be sweat sent Tandrowe, I am weary. quoth Jennye, Good pypar, holde thy peace; .. How does a hop jig differ from a slip jig? Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, and broadside ballads at my no-spam website A href=http

Re: [scots-l] playing in a Scots band

), expert on Scots folk songs (watch for appearance of his 'Musa Proterva'), actor in TV documentaries on Scots music, editor of a local folklore journal, etc. I'm sure you would find a visit from him very educational. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes

Re: [scots-l] playing in a Scots band

Repository or Strathspey Reels. Practically Heaven!] Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, and broadside ballads at my no-spam website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click here for homepage (= subject index) /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish

Re: [scots-l] Question on modes

combination, starting on one of the notes of the 7 note scale. The basic program in ASCII is only 11 Kbytes, but True Basic adds on a lot of overhead when it's compiled so, sorry, but it adds up to about 3/4 of a megabyte. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes

Re: [scots-l] Question on modes

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the file you are referring to? I'm willing to figgure that out, but it will take some time with pencil and paper. Is there an executive summary? Bob No summary. It's not much more than that now. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular

Re: [scots-l] Question on modes

flat'. 'extra sharp' is a factor of 81/80 or about 1 1/4 % higher than the corresponding note in Cmajor. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, and broadside ballads at Bruce Olson's website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Posted to Scots-L

Re: [scots-l] Modal Tunes (but seriously)

that the 6/8 (and maybe the 4/4) version of St. Patrick's Day (in the morning) (in CPC) is his. That's all that come to the top of my mind at present, but I'm sure others can add more to this short list. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, and broadside ballads

Re: [scots-l] Re: William Marshall: Scottish Melodies

. Marshall; McGlashan-AMR2 38: Kiss Ketty Allan's Reel; WMR2 3: Miss Halkets Reel; WMR2 3: Miss Wedderburn's Reel; WMR2 4: Miss Ann Stewart Reel; WMR2 4: Miss Watson's Reel; WMR2 4: Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website

Re: [scots-l] Tunebook list

to find out if other tunes are missing, too, and there were a few I couldn't find. It contains nothing from the Complete Repository series. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Posted

Re: [scots-l] Tunebook list

- To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Sorry, that Gow collection does contain the Complete Repository. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click

Re: [scots-l] Tunebook list

, and 9 from the 4th book. That's as far as I've looked. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe

Re: [scots-l] Scots Tunes in O'Neill's Collections (was: Music source books)

? None would be my guess. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [scots-l] Re: Bonaparte's Retreat

Retreat. Gene Kruppa's orchestra also recorded it slightly later in 1950, Bobby Scots doing the lyrics. (Another Scots connection, if you're really that desperate for one.) Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website A href=http

Re: [scots-l] Bonaparte's Retreat

, and in the Roche collection, II, #231, Bonaparte's March. Bayard takes it to be of the Gilderoy family. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish

Re: [scots-l] Tonic Sol-Fa

on tonic sol-fa on the internet. Use google to search on 'tonic sol fa'. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my no-spam website - www.erols.com/olsonw or just A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Motto: Keep at it; muddling

Re: [scots-l] Tempi and other not so dumb questions

for many copies of each. Thomas Hudson's song Morgan Rattler was written more than 40 years after the tune appeared. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my no-spam website - www.erols.com/olsonw or just A href=http://www.erols.com

Re: [scots-l] Miss Gunning's Reel

. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my no-spam website - www.erols.com/olsonw or just A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Motto: Keep at it; muddling through always works. Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish

Re: [scots-l] Miss Gunning's Reel

and look at the Thompson collection mentioned by Bruce Olson and see if it's the same tune; if it is, the mystery is irrevocably solved. Good sleuthing, Andrew! -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional

Re: [scots-l] Miss Gunning's Reel

and look at the Thompson collection mentioned by Bruce Olson and see if it's the same tune; if it is, the mystery is irrevocably solved. Good sleuthing, Andrew! -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional

Re: [scots-l] Miss Gunning's Reel

on my website.] The tune is undoubtably not a composition by Wm. Marshall. Bruce Olson -- Roots of Folk: Old British Isles popular and folk songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my no-spam website - www.erols.com/olsonw or just A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Motto: Keep

Re: [scots-l] Miss Gunning's Reel

', 1980 - microfiche only. (I have it, but no ready access to a microfiche reader at present) Isuspect that Miss Gunning's Reel has been mistakenly attributed to Wm. Marshal because the tune appeared on the single sheet issue with Marshall's Kinrara, c 1800. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old

Re: [scots-l] Wake Up Call

. An ABC of the SMM tune and a copy of Will you go to Flanders from Oswalds CPC are in file S2.HTM on my website. Over a dozen early copies of the tune are listed in the Irish tune title index on my website. 'Gramachree' is corrupt Gaelic for 'love of my heart'. Bruce Olson Roots of Folk: Old

[scots-l] Oswald's CPC

Scottish Melodies', give facsimiles of the title page and first page of music of the the two issues facing his p. 248. 28 of the 36 pages of the original issue can be found Simpson's 'The Delightful Pocket Companion for the German Flute', c 1743-5. Thanks, Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish

[scots-l] Perth

with a man from Perth. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href=http://www.erols.com/olsonw; Click /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture

Re: [scots-l] Dunse Dings A'

l Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Sorry, closest I can come is "Lads of Dunce" for the 2nd song in Henry Fielding's 'The Welsh Opera/ The Grub Street Opera', 1731. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and,

Re: [scots-l] Nasty old ballads

. This seems to the the sole source for the early "Young Graigston" (Lang a-growing") Bruce Olson Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href="http://www.erols.com/olsonw

Re: [scots-l] Nasty old ballads

information yet. Jamie Moreira hasn't said much, and that little above was a result of my question to him on another newsgroup. Will post the information as soon as I get it. Or will someone else please do it, in case I miss it the first announcement of it? Bruce Olson Old English, Irish and, Scots

Re: [scots-l] Nasty old ballads

songs in the Scarce Songs 1 and 2 files on my website (including an early 17th century Scots one and some from the Merry Muses) that aren't for children (who, I don't think, can understand them anyhow). Bruce Olson Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my w

Re: [scots-l] Jack or other net experts: help!

be at a loss as to how to interpret it, and again all would be lost. One way of checking that you got a blank message is to copy all of it to a named file, and look at it with a word processor. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website

Re: [scots-l] Ahoy! Gie me aw yer siller pal or A'll chib ye!

inne Mhaol, Granuaile = Grace O'Malley], known earlier, but not found until later than the song of the Commodore. There's an ABC of it. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

mes Hospital" (A and B) in Sharp and Karpeles 'English Folk Songs from the Southern Appalachians'. Other early ones are in the Journal of American Folklore. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/o

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

lture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html There's a traditional version of "Streets of Laredo" collected in 1960 on the web in the Max Hunter collection that one can play if your Real Audio software will work on the web (mine won't). Br

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

Abby Sale wrote: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:00:41 -0500, Bruce Olson wrote: The Library of Congress has 'Crosby's Irish Musical Repository', 1808, which contain the tune "The Unfortunate Rake", and is tha source of the Bruce, Is this online? I don't see it in the Ameri

Re: [scots-l] The Unfortunate Rake

ollet Holden gave a version with slightly different timing about 2 years earlier. Both can be found in 'Sources of Irish Music', 1998. No early 19th century copy of the ballad is known, and the earliest extant version seems to be "The Buck's Elegy" reprinted from the Madden collectio

[scots-l] Stressed note coding

Sorry, I goofed in my last posting. "The wawking of the Faulds", #6 in vol. 2 of 'Orpheus Caldedonius', 1733, is scored as G dorian rather than G minor. The single flat on the key signature doesn't really make any difference because there isn't any B in the tune. Bruce Ols

[scots-l] Stressed note coding

run across some I haven't seen, and you'll get a blank for mode designation. Please let me know if you have problems with it. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href="

Re: [scots-l] auld lang syne uploads

but the evidence is for either being the correct tune is very weak. Bruce Olson Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href="http://www.erols.com/olsonw" Click /a Posted to Scots-L -

Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351

David Kilpatrick wrote: Bruce Olson wrote... I see we have Charles Kilpatrick Sharpe, Sir Cuthbert Sharp and Cecil Sharp to straighten out. There goes my name again... Bruce rightly corrects Nicholas B on the C Sharpe mis-criticism, but he's slipped a Kilpatrick in there instead

Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #351

land', 1834 (modeled in Ritson's earlier one.) Cecil Sharp was an English collector of folk songs. The contents of all of his books and manuscripts are listed in Steve Roud's folksong index (as are all of the songs in the 1st 7 volumes of 'The Greig-Duncan Folk Song Collection'). Bruce Olson --

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

pent much of his life, and died, in Scotland. Said to have played to James VI of Scotland. Attributed to him while in Scotland are- Da Mihi Manum, Port Athol, and Port Gordon. O'Neill, in the work cited above, adds (from Bruce Armstrong's 'The Irish Harp') Lude's Supper, Rorie Dall's Sisters Lament, P

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

Rob, I didn't know about either. I only have a partial listing of contents of the Balcarres MS, and nothing for Weymss. Port Athol is also in Balcarres. P.S. The song "Hallow my fancy" is in Bishop Percy's folio MS. Vol. II, p. 30 of the Hales and Furnival edition, 1868. Bruce Ols

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

Bruce Olson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/16/00 5:22:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I shall also play the original version of Ae Fond Kiss which James Oswald wrote and described as being written by Rorie Dall Rorie Dall

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line\Rory Dall

18th century, and Irish O'Cathain visited Scotland in the early 17th century. Edw. Bunting, in his 1840 Irish collection, took Morison and O'Cahan to be the same person. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/o

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

4, quotes the letter to Thomson as above, and dates it as September, 1793. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href="http://www.erols.com/olsonw" Click /a Poste

Re: [scots-l] auld sang line

ating the "Hallow my Fancy" tune into normal music notation? I can't translate the tablature, and I need the tune for the song.] Bruce Olson Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A h

Re: [scots-l] familiar tunes

". Comments, pro or con, would be appreciated. Bruce Olson -- Old English, Irish and, Scots: popular songs, tunes, broadside ballads at my website (no advs-spam, etc)- www.erols.com/olsonw or click below A href="http://www.erols.com/olsonw" Click /a Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional