I've now read in two places that the Irish tune The High Reel is
descended from a Scottish tune by the name of Sandy Duff. However,
neither Sandy Duff nor Alexander Duff is listed in Charlie Gore's
index and I haven't been able to locate any reference to the tune in
a Scottish collection.
Just a note to say that Ferintosh (Dave Greenberg, Abby Newton and Kim
Robertson) will give an informal and FREE performance in St Peter's Church,
Linlithgow this Sunday 15th September as part of Doors Open Day/Linlithgow
Folk Festival.
Sunday is the 14th, yes? I think it's at 2 pm, although I
Ferintosh will also be
in Penicuik, Biggar, and Stirling on this trip.
Dates?
from http://www.dungreenmusic.com/Greenberg/Greenberg.html#schedule :
Sept 12 (Fri) 7:30 pm concert. Penicuik Arts Centre.
Sept 13 (Sat) 2 pm workshops: cello, fiddle, clarsach. The Corn
Exchange Theatre, Biggar.
latter CD goes a bit wild, with Frith and Zappa compositions
alongside Bremner, Christie, and MacGibbon...
Don't worry too much -- they're not mixed -- just on the same CD! It
makes sense, really : - )
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Oh wow, so he finally gave into temptation eh? I knew that would
eventually happen when he started playing Purple Haze on the
fiddle in front of us :-)
Well, that was fairly atypical. Frith and Zappa and the Finnish
tunes were David McGuiness' idea, and the Hungarian tunes are due to
my
Jack Campin wrote:
he thought that the harmony arose from *successive*
tones in the music - each note harmonizing with its predecessors, and
the sequence of intervals being chosen to make this work, which implies
a preference for melodic intervals wider than a tone.
I don't know very much about
interesting to have on the net...
And Niel Gow, who probably wouldn't have a computer yet.
Oh he might have one, but Nathaniel would be the one using it.
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I think the reason Sandy smiles when he plays it is because he thinking
about Doug MacPhee (the CB piano player) who absolutely abhors the tune.
I'm pretty sure that Sandy will play it at least once whenever he's
accompanieed by Doug just to jerk Doug's chain.
I've heard a few stories of
I usually use Bonnie Tammie Scolla as an early beginner tune. I
teach it as a song first, then the tune on the fiddle. It isn't Cape
Breton, it's Shetland.
Yes, that's the one I was thinking of. I don't have the music for
it. I thought I would never forget it after hearing it last summer
it still leaves me puzzled about how musicians fared at
dances there. In the days before electricity were people much quieter than
they are now?
I think this must have been true. At Cape Breton dances today, the
sound systems are so powerful that people shout to each other in
order to have
Sorry for cross-posting.
Me too! I replied to the Kitchen Ceilidh one but then I remembered
that I think maybe someone had discussed the King of Sweden on the
Scots List before, so:
Does anybody have the notation or abc for a pipe tune 'Coc ard' or
the song An Taillear Mòr. I know that it is
Toby, your definition of fusion must be different than mine; when I think
of fusion I think of groups like The Peatbog Faeries and Shooglenifty, not
Alasdair Fraser! What are you defining his style as a fusion of? -Steve
Gosh, I also would say that Alasdair Fraser plays some sort of fusion
While we're talking about reels, and since there are a good
smattering of fiddlers here, I will hazard another question: how
fast are they usually played for dancers? One organization here in
the States advertises the actual tempo of reels at 130-140 per
half note/minim. Ignoring the fact that
However someone mentioned that
the square sets are not an import from the Scottish Highlands, like the
step dancing is. Rather the square sets were imported from either the
States, England or other parts of Canada, and jigs fit the right meter
for the dance.
Supposedly they evolved from the
Title: Re: [scots-l] lift the bow off the
strings?
I've never heard of a
'straight slur' where you briefly stop then continuein the same
bow direction. It's supposed to sound very staccato. But
it doesn't mention in the book if it is acceptable to lift the bow off
the strings! I don't know if
Andrew Kuntz wrote:
I'm looking for a portrait or likeness of Nathaniel Gow...
Nigel Gatherer wrote:
There is one on my website at
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/perf/fiddlers/nathg.html
That looks to be the head from the portrait in the Glen Collection of
Scottish Dance Music
I'm looking for a portrait or likeness of Nathaniel Gow
There's one in the Glen Collection. I only have a photocopy of it.
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Can't you mathematically 'correct for' poor cylinder speed control to get an
idea of what speed he was playing at?.
Seems that if you know the info about the apparent pitch and the apparent
tempo, and one makes a few basics assumptions: such as the tune should be
played in the key of ?? and the
Does anyone have any information about the tune 'The Maids of Arrochar'? I
see it listed on Nigel's ABC site (as a jig, but I've only heard it as a
slow 6/8) as coming from the Gow collection, but does anyone know whether
Gow wrote it? The only people I've heard playing it are Tommy Basker and
I like the album as a historical document, to hear how Skinner played,
what he played, what speed he played at, and so on.
I have that old vinyl LP also. You can't actually tell at what speed
Skinner played from the LP because, although it may have faithfully
reproduced the cylinders are
Hi folks,
There was some interest on the Cape Breton list when someone else
posted about this, so I thought I would mention it here. I will be
teaching an online distance course for the University College of Cape
Breton starting in the fall. It is a credit course which anyone can
take. It
I came across the Irish polka below, and what drew me to it was how few
notes are used in the tune (five in all). I'm trying to find Scottish
tunes which use as few notes, for use in teaching complete beginners.
Any suggestions?
I always use Mairi's Wedding in A. Works out well on the fiddle
Re Stuart Eydmann's recent e-mail on the subject:
I am very interested in the work you refer to which was done by Dr.
Peter Cooke... to explain the internal rhythmic variation in
traditional players which gives the music its particular lift, lit and
drive. Is it available?
Alexander, we
This reminds me of another probably dumb question I have: Is a snap
considered an optional ornament? What I mean is, can you substitute it for
2 eighths or for a dotted 8th-16 combination for effect, or is it only
played when written?
You might substitute cuts/birls/triplets for a snap made up
I'm not having much luck getting a reply these days - is anybody out
there? However, I'll try again. Does anyone know what this tune is?
No idea. Do you have some project going with these tunes you have been
asking about?
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this
tradition.
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Does anyone know the dates for Pipe Major William Ross? (If there has been
more than one, I mean the one with the collection who composed a bunch of
tunes.) Is it correct to say he was 19th-century, or did he overlap with
another century?
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by... and as performed by... I just imagined that the tunes were
for character and hornpipe dances on the stage. The tunes don't seem very
interesting.
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to be so vague.
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this song to my guitar group at primary school.
Philip
It's a great tune, for fiddle too.
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that was earlier than Gow, so I
think it's Nat's tune.
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similarly). Mrs.
Crawford's is almost the same as Forneth House which Robert Petrie
claimed as his own composition. Maybe Nathaniel Gow reset it (it's a bit
better as Mrs. Crawford's, in my opinion).
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about the
Nineties Collection, Nigel. I will have to get hold of one.
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)
The Setting Sun (Ian Hardie)
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I've been looking for a 6/8 tune for beginners (all suggestions
welcomed)
Stan Chapman has been teaching all his beginners John Allan's Jig by Dan
Hugh MacEachern for years. I tried it on a class I taught and found it
pretty good for the purpose also.
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of the late King George VI and was played at his funeral, also at
the late President John F. Kennedy's funeral.
I can send you the translation if you want it Cynthia.
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to it!
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if it is also played a lot in Scotland.
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. On the other hand, I never looked into it before.
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it better? I think I also like it because I amplify it right on my
fiddle bridge so it seems like my own instrument making the sound. At a
session, when I can't hear a pitch fork, I just tune to what seems to be
the average A.
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this turns into intolerance of the
opinions and practices of others.
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it in a book anywhere. In one of the Cranford Publication books the
title is The Thistle.
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of
the great collections.
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That was a GREAT post and I will keep it handy at all times!
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ng. I had always just assumed that the title referred to
the Rocking Step of the Highland Fling.
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itar stuff is complicated harmonies
but simple rhythms. Where's the resemblance?
Bass runs?
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sn't shown with cuts
in the Athole Collection, but I heard it that way in Cape Breton -- first
quarter note of the second measure.
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their influences have been anyway. They can have classical or Irish
habits. I think maybe you have to have lived in Scotland for a while to
know what's really traditional there -- or have a lot more recorded
examples than I have!
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every once in a
while you get Scottish ornaments resembling rolls because of the way a
melody happens to go plus the addition of a grace note to fill it out.
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of how fiddlers bow
that one.
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I think for The Sailor's Wife Em is a more usual key than Dm.
Not here it isn't - people play it in D minor or not at all (despite
it being in print in E minor for well over a century).
I have only heard it played in D minor as well.
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all lined up the way somebody claimed they were.
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