Re: [scots-l] Re: Few Notes

2002-04-20 Thread Tappan

Jack Campin wrote,

  Do you have the Patrick McDonald collection?

I thought somebody had reprinted it but now can't find any trace of the
reprint.  Was I imagining it?


I have it and sell photocopies. There have been a few reprints in the 
past; I don't know if any of them are still available.

Jan Tappan
Fiddlers Crossing

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[scots-l] Re: Few Notes

2002-04-15 Thread Nigel Gatherer

Eva M wrote:

 How about the Shetland tune Spootiskerry--simple (practically
 pentatonic), very rhythmic with lots of repitition. It's alot of fun
 to play.

Yes, I agree (that F# at the beginning of the B part really annoys me
because apart from that note it IS pentatonic!), but it's not for the
very first lesson. Quite often the people who come into the Beginners
Whistle class have never played any musical instrument before, and my
aim is to get them playing a decent tune in a very short time, so that
they can look round at each other and say Hey, we're actually playing
music! A couple of Irish polkas fit the bill, such as the one I
posted, or Egan's Polka (if you miss out the high D in the B part). I
keep thinking there must be a Scottish equivalent, a song air perhaps,
which is perfect for the job - but WHAT IS IT?

After a couple of years teaching beginners the whistle, I'm now
re-thinking the whole course, and part of the plan is to start with a
handful of the easiest notes to play (on the whistle that's D, E, G, A,
and B), introducing the notes that take a little more skill gently and
gradually (high D, C sharp, C natural, notes on the upper octave).

-- 
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
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Re: [scots-l] Re: Few Notes

2002-04-15 Thread John Chambers

Going a bit further afield, a  while  back  as  a  Scottish
dance,  we included the following simple but beautiful tune
in a medley for an air-type strathspey. Some of the dancers
recognized it and had big grins on their faces.  We omitted
the repeat of the fourth phrase, of course, to get 16 bars.
This tune goes well with Banks of Spey, and sounds great on
the pipes.


X: 1
T: Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika
T: God Bless Africa
C: Enoch Sontanga 1897
R: march
Z: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 2000
N: Enoch Sontanga was a teacher at a methodist mission school in Johannesburg SA.
N: The first part is now incorporated into the South African nation anthem.
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: D
| Ddc de f2 f2 | A7e2 e2 Dd4 \
| Dff ef A7g2 g2 | Dff f2 A7e4 |
| Ddc de f2 f2 | A7e2 g2 Df4 \
| Eme4 Dd4 | A7cd e2 Dd4 \
| Eme4 Dd3d | A7cd e2 Dd4 :|
% This part not usually used nowadays:
| Dd2 cB A4- | A8 \
| Dd2 cB A4- | A8 \
| Dd2 ef GbB4 | Emgf e2 Dd4 | A7cd e2 Dd4 |]
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[scots-l] Re: Few Notes

2002-04-14 Thread Nigel Gatherer

Bruce Campbell wrote:

 Bluebells of Scotland springs immediately to mind.

[Humming it in my head.] Um, unless I have the wrong tune, Bluebells
uses nine different notes, counting low doh and high doh as two
different notes:

ABC notation:
A|d2 cB A2 Bc/d/|FFGE D3 A|FDFA d2 Bc/d/|cAB^G A2 z|

Tonic Sol-Fa:
.s |d'   :t .l | s  :l .t,d' |m .m :f .r  |d :-
.s |m .d :m .s | d' :l .t,d' |t .s :l .fe |s :- ||

-- 
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
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[scots-l] Re: Few Notes

2002-04-14 Thread Nigel Gatherer

Cynthia Cathcart wrote:

 May I put on my Pedagogy Hat? Now, I don't play the fiddle...

Neither do I... :-) However, the situation I'm considering is the very
first lesson for a Beginners Whistle class. I would like to start off
by getting them to learn, say, three notes: G, A and B. We'll noodle
around on that for a while and then I'd introduce two more notes, say E
and D. From that it would be a short way to introducing a tune which
used all these notes and only these notes. The high D is a problem
because it takes a particular skill to play it, and I'd like to wait a
while before learning that skill. 

 ...I look more for tunes that have lots of repetition in pattern,
 rather than focus solely on tunes that have just a few notes. The
 Steve Foster tune Oh! Susanna for example, works real well with my
 American students, because it is very familiar (they already know the
 tune, so I don't have to teach that) and the first, second and fourth
 phrases are identical...

This is the ideal: a well-kent tune with few notes so that, very
quickly, the students would achieve the playing of a tune on a new
instrument to them. The polka I posted is a good example in some ways,
but it's not well-known. I'll be looking for suitable tune, but I
thought I'd ask y'all for help.

 ...Au Clair de la Lune is the same way...

Yes, and the first part uses only three notes (e.g. G, A, B)!

 BTW, anyone know what Stole My Wife is about? Is it reflective of
 some old wedding tradition, like the American tradition of
 decorating the newlyweds' car so they can't get away quietly for the
 honeymoon?

I can't say I know that tune. Where does it come from?

-- 
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
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Re: [scots-l] Re: Few Notes

2002-04-14 Thread Celtic World

Bluebells - eight actually, at least in pipe music where it is unusual 
because it is not pentatonic in structure.
I always found it very easy to teach because it is mostly crotchet or tied 
crotchet single note beats. I used it for teaching learner pipers who could 
even pick it up and play it quite well within  day or so.
Anyway.
Bruce Campbell


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Subject: [scots-l] Re: Few Notes
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:21:21 +0100

Bruce Campbell wrote:

  Bluebells of Scotland springs immediately to mind.

[Humming it in my head.] Um, unless I have the wrong tune, Bluebells
uses nine different notes, counting low doh and high doh as two
different notes:

ABC notation:
A|d2 cB A2 Bc/d/|FFGE D3 A|FDFA d2 Bc/d/|cAB^G A2 z|

Tonic Sol-Fa:
.s |d'   :t .l | s  :l .t,d' |m .m :f .r  |d :-
.s |m .d :m .s | d' :l .t,d' |t .s :l .fe |s :- ||

--
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
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Re: [scots-l] Re: Few Notes

2002-04-14 Thread Clarsaich
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Neither do I... :-) 

Fancy that! All this time I imagined you with the fiddle, but goodness, I know better than that, don't I? Dear me, wake up, Cynthia.

I will start scouting tunes for you! Anything to launch new musicians! Besides, there might be something that would work for me and my students, too.

Re: They Stole My Wife Last Night. It is in the Patrick McDonald collection (1784). My Gaelic is very shaky (read that V-E-R-Y shaky) and so I ran it past a friend who has pretty solid Gaelic for a translation, and he came up with the same thing.

Ghoid iad mo bhean uam an reir.

It's a very cool tune, pentatonic. I should try my hand at ABC notation so y'all can see it...it's also in my second book, where I have arranged it so one can play it on a clarsach tuned with either one sharp (F), one flat (B) or no sharps or flats. It's my perenial "workshop tune". Great for teaching fixed finger, gapped scale theory, and wire-strung clarsach ornaments.

Do you have the McDonald collection? It's in the middle of page 3. I'm putting it on my CD with some really rhythmic damping. Verycool.

--Cynthia Cathcart
http://www.cynthiacathcart.net/