Re: [SMW-devel] problem with cmsort

2012-04-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Marcelo, Is this related to Semantic MediaWiki? It seems like it's not - if not, you would be better off asking about it on the mediawiki-l mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l -Yaron On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Marcelo Chiaradía < chiaradiamarc...@gma

Re: [SMW-devel] How to show template's names when editing with semanticforms?

2012-04-14 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Marcelo, You can put any wiki-text into a form - that includes section headers like "==Template name==". In addition, you can add the "label=" parameter to any {{{for template}}} tag, which puts a fieldset around that whole template, with the specified text. That's mostly intended for use by mu

Re: [SMW-devel] is there a way to query field values in Semantic forms?

2012-04-12 Thread Yaron Koren
gt; wrote: > Hi Yaron, > > thanks for the quick answer. I found an extension of mediawiki called POM > (Page_Object_Model), which I think will allow me to do what i need. > > Have you ever used it? > > Regards, > > Marcelo. > > > 2012/4/11 Yaron Koren > &g

Re: [SMW-devel] is there a way to query field values in Semantic forms?

2012-04-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Marcelo, Unfortunately, no - there's very little that's provided as far as querying the data structure itself. -Yaron On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Marcelo Chiaradía < chiaradiamarc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a semantic media wiki installed, with the Semantic Forms ext

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW SRF jqPlot

2012-03-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi mwjames, As one of the original authors of jqPlot, I have to say this sounds great! I'm looking forward to seeing the new code in action. -Yaron On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM, James HK wrote: > Hi, > > While testing MW 1.19beta we had some trouble with the current jqPlot > JavaScript imple

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Could we use Semantic Forms Rules?

2012-02-21 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, That sounds like a good idea, and that's what I should have said before - sorry about that. After all, ultimately it's up to the students, not me or anyone else, what projects get done. -Yaron On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Stephan Gambke wrote: > > > >> > it doesn't seem important enou

Re: [SMW-devel] Variable rendering in templates

2012-02-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Ah, yes - that was the way to define tags to parse their contents, that I had forgotten. -Yaron On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Beebe, Mary J wrote: > I found my problem.  I was not using $frame when I called the parser. > > > > $input = $parser->recursiveTagParse($input, $frame);  within my ex

Re: [SMW-devel] FW: Variable rendering in templates

2012-02-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Mary, Yes - if you define a "tag function", then by default its parameters won't be parsed before it's called. (There's actually a way to change that behavior, as of version 1.16, I think, but I don't remember what it is.) The easiest solution is to instead define it as a parser function - so i

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Could we use Semantic Forms Rules?

2012-02-13 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Stephan, Well, I have no real objection to such an extension getting created - whether or not anyone used it, it wouldn't affect the rest of the software. However, it doesn't seem important enough, in my opinion, to get a slot in the Google Summer of Code - especially since, whether we go throu

Re: [SMW-devel] How does the LUA scripting project affect SMW?

2012-02-07 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Joel, That's an interesting question. I would say that there are one and a half ways in which the SMW world will be affected: - The half way is that all the #if parser functions can get replaced with actual "if" statements and the like, which will make templates that now use #if a lot nicer an

Re: [SMW-devel] refresh semantic data

2012-01-25 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Mauricio, I find that strange - your extension modifies the contents of some page, but when you go to that page, you don't see the new version? That shouldn't ever happen. Or do you mean that, on other pages that *query* that page, or on the category page, that data takes a while to show up? -

Re: [SMW-devel] Extension 'Replace Text' Error

2012-01-03 Thread Yaron Koren
Oh - it's worse than I thought, then. :) Hopefully the fix I added will still work. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM, zehetner wrote: > Thanks Yaron! > > I'm using > >> > MediaWiki 1.17.0 > > Gu > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 08:40:00 -0500, Yaron Ko

Re: [SMW-devel] Extension 'Replace Text' Error

2012-01-03 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Gu, Thanks for pointing that out. There were some changes to the Replace Text extension a few days that removed support for MediaWiki versions below 1.16 (which was the plan), but support was accidentally removed for MW 1.16 as well - which is I assume the version that you're using. I just fixe

Re: [SMW-devel] Header Tabs Revisited

2011-12-09 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Sal, I believe this is mostly just an issue of perception. Basically, the way I understand browser loading to work, if there's any Javascript linked at the top of the HTML page, it has to get downloaded fully before any of the HTML can be displayed. You can read more about that here (ironically

Re: [SMW-devel] "one-to-many" validation

2011-12-09 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Vlad, The "text with autocomplete" and "textarea with autocomplete" input types both allow multiple values. If you're going to change the code to support it, please note the "delimiter" parameter - by default the delimiter is a comma, but it can be manually set to be a semicolon, newline, etc.

Re: [SMW-devel] "one-to-many" validation

2011-12-07 Thread Yaron Koren
; Well, that seems strange - "mandatory" and "existing values only" are two different restrictions, and either one could theoretically be used without the other. Is there any way these could be separated? Thanks, Yaron > > Thanks for feedback. If its needed I can make

Re: [SMW-devel] "one-to-many" validation

2011-12-07 Thread Yaron Koren
f so, is it on purpose? -Yaron On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Vladimir Kostyukov < vladimir.kostu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Yaron, > > Have you looked into my patch about validation. Could you please update > status? > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Yaron Koren w

Re: [SMW-devel] "one-to-many" validation

2011-11-29 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Vladimir, Sorry about the delay - we've had the Thanksgiving break here, which has restricted my internet time significantly. This patch sounds very interesting, and I plan to look at it at some point soon, unless someone else does first. -Yaron On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Vladimir Kost

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] PDF documents from SMW pages

2011-11-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, To clarify - I'm pretty sure the Collection extension doesn't handle parser functions of any kind; so it's not just #ask but every other function as well. Thus, it's not really an SMW issue but a general problem with Collection. (Though to be fair, I think it also can't display the "[[a::b]]"

Re: [SMW-devel] subpage tags?

2011-11-15 Thread Yaron Koren
r instead? -Yaron On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi Jon, > > Unless I'm missing something, I don't see much benefit to having this. If > the data is on another page (whether it's a subpage or not), you can > already query its data in the sam

Re: [SMW-devel] subpage tags?

2011-11-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Jon, Unless I'm missing something, I don't see much benefit to having this. If the data is on another page (whether it's a subpage or not), you can already query its data in the same way that you would query a subobject's (or internal object's) data. The only benefit I see for this is that it w

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Are my posts being seen?

2011-11-02 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Bruce, I, for one, think I've seen your emails - it looks like you've had two emails recently that weren't responded to, one about "SMW and different skins" and one about "More than one form for a page"; but others have been responded to. In general, you can do a web search on the subject line

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] RFC Subobjects (aka "internal objects") in SMW

2011-11-01 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Why not just do: Jon Lang {{#subobject name | personal=Jonathan | nickname=Jon | family=Lang | title=Mr. }} In other words, why not just take the display of the data out of the #subobject call (assuming that's what the function will be called) altogether? -Yaron On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] New way to format tabular results?

2011-10-31 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, This seems like good timing, because Markus gave a good talk at the most recent SMWCon, in Berlin, that included a discussion about template queries; and that talk has been uploaded, so you can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0DI_GyIBbw (Not all of the videos from last month's S

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Funding for development of standard wikitext editor in SF

2011-10-21 Thread Yaron Koren
That's great news! I'm looking forward to SF and WikiEditor being able to work together. It comes at a very good time, since FCKeditor seems to be a dying and no-longer-maintained solution. -Yaron On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm happy to announce that

Re: [SMW-devel] Fwd: Invitation: Apply to be a Mentoring Organization for GCI

2011-10-17 Thread Yaron Koren
in general, so you could be right. I would say doing it as part of the Wikimedia Foundation would be less than ideal, but still better than nothing. That's my opinion, anyway. -Yaron On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Hey :) > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 23:09, Y

[SMW-devel] Fwd: Invitation: Apply to be a Mentoring Organization for GCI

2011-10-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Anyone interested in SMW, i.e. the Open Semantic Data Association, applying to take part in this one? The Google Code-In differs from the Google Summer of Code in a few ways: it's over the winter, not the summer; it's for high school students, not college students; and every student tries to compl

Re: [SMW-devel] Querying for SIO values not equal does not work with spaces

2011-09-24 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Leo, My guess is that this is not an SIO-specific issue, since SIO stores its properties in the same way as regular SMW properties - but rather just has to do with changes to SMW querying in version 1.6.2. It still sounds like a bug, but I just wanted to clarify the source of the problem - unle

Re: [SMW-devel] New Extension

2011-09-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Markus, It's not quite true that SMW "only stores data that is actually found on a page" - there's also metadata that it can store, like the current "Modification date" special property. I guessed, when I read Mauricio's email, that that's what he was talking about, though I could be wrong. -Y

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding "SMWAskAPI" code to SMW

2011-08-28 Thread Yaron Koren
- if it ends up to be nice I'll make it > opensource. > > Yury > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> The "SMWAskAPI" extension adds an action to the MediaWiki API, "ask", that >> lets

[SMW-devel] Adding "SMWAskAPI" code to SMW

2011-08-28 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi everyone, The "SMWAskAPI" extension adds an action to the MediaWiki API, "ask", that lets you call SMW queries via api.php: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SMWAskAPI I didn't think such a thing was necessary, since the Special:Ask page basically functions as an API already, if you use

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW roadmap

2011-08-22 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, No need to edit the wiki - I'm convinced. :) Being able to have a predictable future release schedule would be a big step forward for Semantic MediaWiki - it's something that even MediaWiki itself hasn't always been able to do - so it would be great if it works out. -Yaron On Sun, Aug 21, 2

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW roadmap

2011-08-21 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, The idea of printing a schedule for dropping compatibility with MediaWiki versions is a very good idea - it's helpful to both admins and extension developers. Still, maybe it's better to separate this schedule from the planned SMW version schedule - since knowing exactly when, say, SMW 1.8 wil

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF][HaloACL] Bug in Semantic Forms/HaloACL calls?

2011-07-27 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Oh, wow - I didn't realize that this was the last needed patch; that's good news. I just added the extra parameter for the hook, to the SF code in SVN. -Yaron On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Thomas Schweitzer wrote: > Hi Peter, > > this is fixed in my patch patch_for_SF_2.x.x.txt. The corr

[SMW-devel] Fall 2011 SMWCon in Berlin: presentations wanted

2011-07-25 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi everyone, The Fall 2011 SMWCon in Berlin will be happening from September 21-23, which is just two months away: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2011 If you attend (and we hope you do), please consider giving a talk about whatever SMW-related site/project/extension/idea you've b

Re: [SMW-devel] ESA Summer of Code

2011-07-19 Thread Yaron Koren
Well, the ESA Summer of Code application process came and went, without an application from SMW. As I discovered from Lydia's Twitter feed, they just announced their list of accepted organizations: http://sophia.estec.esa.int/socis2011/?q=node/13 All of these organizations seem to be related to r

Re: [SMW-devel] ESA Summer of Code

2011-07-05 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Stephan, This sounds interesting. I wish they were more specific about what it means to be "space-related", since a space mission, like any large-scale project, could end up making use of every open-source software application there is, from Wine to StatusNet to Inkscape. Their "about" page and

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF][HaloACL] Bug in Semantic Forms/HaloACL calls?

2011-07-01 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I have no idea - this sounds like an issue for the SMW+ people. -Yaron On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Ellis, Peter C wrote: > We've run into an interesting issue on Semantic Forms and HaloACL, and I'm > not entirely sure which piece of software is responsible, so I'm posting > here rathe

Re: [SMW-devel] [SRF] exhibit format breaks down with jQuery 1.6.1

2011-06-28 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Laurent, Starting with version 1.16, MediaWiki came bundled with its own copy of jQuery - so MW skins that use jQuery should use MW's copy whenever possible, which would eliminate problems of jQuery incompatibility. You can see the 6th bullet point here, for one way to do that for a custom skin

Re: [SMW-devel] Matrix result formatter

2011-06-17 Thread Yaron Koren
lues of > dependencies, and finally values for columns are from 'depends on' values. > > The query should look like the following: > {{#ask:[[Category:Dependencies]] > |?declared for > |?depends on > |?comment > |format=pivot,rows=declared for,columns=depends on,cel

Re: [SMW-devel] How to generate an SMWDataItem?

2011-06-07 Thread Yaron Koren
interest] > > > On 07/06/11 04:24, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi Markus, >> >> I'm modifying Semantic Internal Objects to work with SMW 1.6. SIO >> currently has some code that creates an object of type SMWDataValue, and >> calls getDBkeys() on it. Tha

Re: [SMW-devel] Matrix result formatter

2011-06-06 Thread Yaron Koren
and a short summary of > the relation. First, it's colour-coded: 'create' is blue, 'update' is > yellow, 'read' is green. Second, there is a link to the middleware page and > a comment displayed. All of these is provided by custom template that uses

Re: [SMW-devel] Matrix result formatter

2011-06-02 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Igor, Before I go further, let me note how refreshing it is to hear someone asking for advice on this mailing list before creating a new SMW extension. :) It happens more rarely than you might think. So - Patrick is right that this would ideally be created as a new SMW result format, and ideal

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] [GSoC 2011] Improving Semantic Search/Semantic Query usability issues in SMW

2011-05-17 Thread Yaron Koren
e points you raise about re-naming Special:Ask are interesting. In fact > Markus had asked me to think "What should Special:Ask do?". Indeed S.Ask > does so many things that naming it is a problem ;). My hope is that 'Ask' is > a good name for CASE 1 ("ask and you sha

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Inaccuracy in manual page on defining new inputs?

2011-05-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Indeed that's an inaccuracy in the documentation - it's outdated information. Thanks for pointing that out. Feel free to change the documentation yourself; otherwise I will, at some point soon. -Yaron On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ellis, Peter C wrote: > All - > > I was following the ins

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] [GSoC 2011] Improving Semantic Search/Semantic Query usability issues in SMW

2011-05-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Dev, It's great to hear from you, and great to see that you're approaching this project with a lot of both enthusiasm and thought. So - you bring up a few different things in this email. First, there are the "quick wins" (well, hopefully quick) - things that could be improved in Special:Ask wi

Re: [SMW-devel] SMWQuery object failing using compound query

2011-05-10 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, My guess is that it's because you're using the latest version of SMW from SVN - it's still under development, and some of the other extensions aren't yet compatible with it. If that's the case, you should instead use this SVN URL: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/extensions/Sem

Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic Form - Greek Languge

2011-04-24 Thread Yaron Koren
Anastasios - I just want to add that it would be great if you could add your translations to the main Semantic Forms code, so that other users could benefit from them; this would also be in the long run helpful for you, since you wouldn't have to maintain your translations locally. You can do that

Re: [SMW-devel] Talkspace Semantics

2011-04-14 Thread Yaron Koren
ext, > widgets, and everything else technical" I kindly suggest that's not being > sensitive to the needs of the general public when confronted by (semantic) > wiki technology. > > -Original Message- > From: yaro...@gmail.com [mailto:yaro...@gmail.com]On Behalf Of

Re: [SMW-devel] Talkspace Semantics

2011-04-14 Thread Yaron Koren
e:page -- seems to me might > dramatically improve performance (while being, fwiw, intellectually nicer). > > Any insights about caching & SMW are really appreciated... Thanks, John > > -Original Message- > From: yaro...@gmail.com [mailto:yaro...@gmail.com]On Behalf O

Re: [SMW-devel] Talkspace Semantics

2011-04-06 Thread Yaron Koren
parate namespace > to both avoid confusing casual editors of the page and prevent manual edits > of these annotations. > > - Laurent > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm confused about a few things - John: &

Re: [SMW-devel] Help with CSV import

2011-04-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Okay - after Asaf emailed me a copy of the CSV file he was using, I'm pretty sure I figured out what the issue was: the file contained a "byte order mark" at the beginning, indicating its encoding. This web page explains the issue, as well as how to get rid of it: http://www.dotvoid.com/2010/04/de

Re: [SMW-devel] Help with CSV import

2011-04-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, It looks like the Hebrew term you should use is defined on line 947, here: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/languages/DT_Messages.php?view=markup

Re: [SMW-devel] Talkspace Semantics

2011-04-06 Thread Yaron Koren
ge- > *From:* lalqu...@gmail.com [mailto:lalqu...@gmail.com]*On Behalf Of *Laurent > Alquier > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:19 PM > *To:* jmccl...@hypergrove.com > *Cc:* Yaron Koren; semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Talkspace Semantics >

Re: [SMW-devel] Talkspace Semantics

2011-04-05 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, If I understand this correctly, you basically just want to be able to put semantic annotations on talk pages, and have those annotations apply to the corresponding main page. (There's also a related thing where red links to a page should point to its talk page instead.) That sounds like a hac

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Fwd: Wikia Contact Mail - Semantic Mediawiki, Semantic Forms, Semantic Drill Down {12501}

2011-03-21 Thread Yaron Koren
Very interesting... I didn't know that was their official response now. I don't think that conveys the full relationship they have with SMW, but it's still good to know. -Yaron On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Robert Murphy wrote: > Did you all know that this is what wikia sends to people who as

Re: [SMW-devel] SF: freetext area in WYSIWYG with default value

2011-03-21 Thread Yaron Koren
2.0.8 - ah, nostalgia... Thanks for this patch; it'll go into the next version. -Yaron On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Stephan Robotta wrote: > Hi Yaron, > > In the (not so current) SF 2.0.8 we discovered a bug that is caused > when you use the FCKeditor for free text fields and if you have a

Re: [SMW-devel] Parameters of SMWResultPrinter

2011-03-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I'm tentatively in favor of adding Validator as a requirement to SMW, given all the benefits it would provide - then it could be used by all the SMW-based extensions, as well. The better option would be if the Validator functionality could be included directly in MediaWiki, though who knows w

Re: [SMW-devel] Parameters of SMWResultPrinter

2011-03-15 Thread Yaron Koren
faces that lean >> on this great functionality. >> > > I think Yaron's point was exactly that this additional input field is not > wanted. The interface for Special:Ask controls offset and limit via the GUI > and both should rather not be entered directly. Of course

Re: [SMW-devel] Parameters of SMWResultPrinter

2011-03-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I believe that was my decision - when I populated that getParameters() call, I decided not to include 'offset', even though it's an allowed parameter, because it seemed to only get used by Special:Ask, to do pagination, and not within standalone #ask queries. So it didn't seem like a true para

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Two comments

2011-03-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, The first one sounds like a serious bug. Are you using the latest version of SF? If so, could you try to reproduce this problem on a public wiki, like scratchpad.referata.com? I'll look into the second one - I seem to recall fixing that at some point, but it probably broke again to all the ot

Re: [SMW-devel] SRF+Exhibit: A way to add hyperlinks to main label in tabular view

2011-03-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Laurent - that sounds great. If you could make a patch file (using "svn diff"), create a bug report on Bugzilla for SRF, and attach that patch to it, that would be the most helpful way to submit the code. Markus - just a few corrections: Jeroen and I are actually the "de facto" maintainers of

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW roadmap: how to get new items on it

2011-02-25 Thread Yaron Koren
All this talk about using SMW and SF reminded me that smw.referata.comalready has such a thing, here: http://smw.referata.com/wiki/Category:Feature_requests The data structure could probably be improved, though (one of the requests is "Impro

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW roadmap: how to get new items on it

2011-02-24 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Of course, there already is a place to make feature requests and get community votes: Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org), which is meant to hold feature requests as well as bug reports, and which has a (little-known) voting feature. I think the ideal place for that kind of discussion, t

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW on large sites [Was: Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs]

2011-02-23 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I agree that it's great to hear from Wikia, and also great to know that Wikia is willing to put in some development time and effort to help with SMW. A few thoughts: - Wikia has already contributed somewhat to improving performance - I've been talking for a while to Tim Quievryn (who was at t

Re: [SMW-devel] Fwd: Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-18 Thread Yaron Koren
iawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap>It might make sense to split these into two separate pages, but I think it works pretty well in one place. In any case, it's still better than nothing. :) -Yaron On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: >

Re: [SMW-devel] Fwd: Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-14 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, These are interesting links, with some useful tips - I'll definitely try to respond to patches soon after they're sent, instead of (as sometimes happens) a few weeks later. The roadmap stuff is interesting, too. What's there isn't completely relevant to SMW, since that guy is coming from the

Re: [SMW-devel] Inline Editing Functionality by using RDFa

2011-02-10 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Benedikt, One big problem that exists with trying to edit properties inline is that there isn't always a direct relationship between property values and values on the page. A property value can be the result of any sort of computation - and even when there appears to be a 1:1 correspondence, it

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticDrillDown Error (solved?!?)

2011-02-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Valerio, It's great that you looked into it further - I hadn't had time to look at the issue yet. Semantic Drilldown definitely sometimes exposes weird values in the SMW tables that otherwise wouldn't be visible. I think you did the right thing by just deleting the bad entries in the smw_ids ta

Re: [SMW-devel] Defining Semantic MediaWiki properties in multiple namespaces

2011-01-26 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Peter, If there's data that you don't want users to modify, I wouldn't put it in the wiki. Instead, I would use the External Data extension, which lets you keep the data wherever it originates (a database?), and then display it on the wiki where necessary, or even store it via SMW: http://www.

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Patch to bring back IDs for SFDateInput

2011-01-19 Thread Yaron Koren
there's some good documentation for jQuery online. I hope you can get it working... -Yaron On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Patrick Nagel wrote: > Hi Yaron, > > On 2011-01-17 13:56 UTC Yaron Koren wrote: > > Could you explain what your SFDateInput extension does? The general

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Patch to bring back IDs for SFDateInput

2011-01-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Patrick, Could you explain what your SFDateInput extension does? The general approach when using jQuery, which I've tried to get SF to follow, is to use classes instead of IDs whenever possible - it leads to significantly simpler code. Is it possible that your extension could do the same thing?

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] [SMW] SemanticMediaWiki 1.5.4 #show has extra space

2011-01-09 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I just fixed this problem in SVN - it was due to a change I made in the code, about a month and a half ago - I was trying to make the HTML returned by the "list" format look nicer, but it ended up putting a space (really a whole bunch of tabs) at the beginning of every basic query result. Anyw

Re: [SMW-devel] - SemanticDrilldown error

2011-01-09 Thread Yaron Koren
;s choice. > One final note: the tar snapshot (from the Extensions Distributor for > 1.16.x) does not contain the SemanticDrilldown.php file in the root > directory once extracted (tar xvf SemanticDrilldown-MW1.16-r66255.tar). > Is that correct? > > Ciao, > > Valerio > >

Re: [SMW-devel] - SemanticDrilldown error

2011-01-08 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I have no idea - I don't think I've heard of that happening before. But I'd suggest upgrading to the latest version, 0.8.1 - there's at least some chance that that will fix the problem. -Yaron On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Valerio Pelliccioni wrote: > * > Hi all, > I've made an upgrade f

Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic forms not "Edit With Form"-ing?

2010-12-10 Thread Yaron Koren
t; 2. Only use "default form" : means that someone will have to go manually > and click all those red links to create the pages. That's not a viable > option either. > > So I don't see why you wouldn't support both properties working. Especially > since it seems

Re: [SMW-devel] Modifying SMW search results to include image thumbnails

2010-12-10 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I'm not sure if I fully understood this, but if so, I don't think you need to modify the code, or use additional extensions, for that matter. If you have a query like: {{#ask:[[Category:Art objects]]|link=none|template=Art object query}} ...and then, in template "Art object query", something

Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic forms not "Edit With Form"-ing?

2010-12-08 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I don't know how much I can help you, since you're using a modified version of an older version of SF. Hopefully one of the SMW+ people can assist here. I do have one question, though: why do you have both "Has default form" and "Creates pages with form" set for the same property? That shouldn

Re: [SMW-devel] semantic query + Ajax + recursiveTagParse

2010-11-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Cindy, Unfortunately, I have no idea what's causing your error - but since what's going wrong is possibly a basic MediaWiki issue, I would recommend writing to the wikitech-l mailing list with this question: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l There are many more MediaWiki

Re: [SMW-devel] : 1.5.3 upgrade

2010-11-05 Thread Yaron Koren
blem without re-install > everything? > Ciao, > > Valerio > > > > On 11/5/10 6:11 PM, "Yaron Koren" wrote: > >> Hi Valerio, >> >> I'm guessing that you have SMW+ installed; and, as far as I know, you >> can't drop in a standard ver

Re: [SMW-devel] : 1.5.3 upgrade

2010-11-05 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Valerio, I'm guessing that you have SMW+ installed; and, as far as I know, you can't drop in a standard version of SMW in with that setup; you have to use SMW+'s own version. Anyone should feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this. -Yaron On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Valerio M. Pellicc

Re: [SMW-devel] Fw: Interest in SMW in Museum/Cultural sector

2010-11-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Don, That's great news all around - great that you're using SMW successfully as a data-integration hub, that you're spreading the word about it to other museums and institutions, and that you're finding a receptive audience among them. As for the scalability of SMW - I'm not an expert on it, b

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] version 2.0+ and jQuery

2010-10-18 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Sure, I can add in such a global variable - maybe that's the right way to do it. Does all the SF stuff work for you when you comment out those lines? On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Laurent Alquier wrote: > Hi Yaron > > I just upgraded SF to version 2.0.1, > > I did run into a conflict betw

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW min version has changed (related to Special:Ask autocompletion)

2010-09-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Yeah, I put in $wgOut->addExtensionStyle() in the code because I was told, via Code Review, that it was a better alternative to $wgOut->addLink(). But I (or anyone else) could switch it to addLink(), which has been around for a much longer time, if compatibility with older versions is still im

Re: [SMW-devel] Usability concern for Semantic Forms

2010-08-20 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, That sounds like a bug in Semantic Forms. SF's property validation is supposed to mimic that of SMW, and SMW allows space padding around all values, so SF should as well. There's no need to justify it that much - a bug is a bug. By the way, more specific subject lines would be helpful. In thi

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Possible defect in Semantic Forms

2010-08-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Well, SMW actually competes regularly with turnkey applications already, and sometimes wins; that's partly because it has features that no one else has (version history, I would guess, is among them). It has its advantages, and disadvantages, like every application ever written. You could make

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding autocompletion for printouts to Special:Ask

2010-08-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Churchill(1874-1965) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Markus Krötzsch [mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:19 AM > > To: Patrick Nagel > > Cc: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Adding auto

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding autocompletion for printouts to Special:Ask

2010-08-17 Thread Yaron Koren
hould note that I also just added a scrollbar to the autocompletion in Special:Ask, per Patrick's suggestion. Thanks for the suggestion - I think it's a big improvement! -Yaron On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > On 17/08

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Possible defect in Semantic Forms

2010-08-17 Thread Yaron Koren
: There is a very real need to do this kind of thing. > > Which means that being "out of luck" means that Semantic MediaWiki is not > really ready for prime-time. Is that really the message you want to send to > the world? > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Yaron Koren

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding autocompletion for printouts to Special:Ask

2010-08-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, That's great to hear that there are no big objections. That's a very good point, of dealing with cases where there are hundreds or more different properties. The best solution for that case is probably to have Special:Ask switch over automatically to use remote autocompletion when there are mo

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Possible defect in Semantic Forms

2010-08-16 Thread Yaron Koren
imes. It would be nice > not to have to turn off page caching for the whole wiki. > > AK > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> That doesn't sound like a defect - regardless of what you see on the >> property

[SMW-devel] Adding autocompletion for printouts to Special:Ask

2010-08-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Sanyam (who is cc'ed) has been working hard on his Google Summer of Code project, which has been about converting SMW and various of its extensions to use the jQuery Javascript library, and to generally use more Javascript. The project is basically done now, and you'll be hearing a lot more ab

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Possible defect in Semantic Forms

2010-08-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi John, That doesn't sound like a defect - regardless of what you see on the property page, the actual semantic data (allowed values, in this case) doesn't get updated until there's some sort of update action taken, like a page save. In any case, that's not the ideal way to do it - you should in

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticWiki Form - dropdown not working

2010-08-12 Thread Yaron Koren
sing to users since it looks like no value is selected. When > really there are selected values further down in the list but they have to > scroll down to see them. > > > > Thank you, > > Kristi > > > > *From:* Yaron Koren [mailto:yaro...@gmail.com]

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticWiki Form - dropdown not working

2010-08-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, If it's showing up as a group of checkboxes, then the form must think that this field is meant to hold a list of values; i.e., the field in the template has #arraymap called on it. Is that true? If so, then what you probably want is a 'listbox', not a 'dropdown', input type. -Yaron On Wed, A

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] format=category is pretty naive in its implementation

2010-07-26 Thread Yaron Koren
ld, I assume, be able to see the problem quickly. -Yaron On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:53 PM, John Arrowwood wrote: > I have not. Give me a link, and I will look at what it generated, see if > it is something simple. > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >>

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] format=category is pretty naive in its implementation

2010-07-26 Thread Yaron Koren
and see if you want to roll it into the main > code base or not. > > -- John > > > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> The category format was created by David Loomer and me, entirely with >> custom code (though I

Re: [SMW-devel] New HTML5 editor

2010-07-21 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, This looks interesting. I have two main comments/questions about it: - I don't know if the license for Aloha Editor is compatible with MediaWiki - it has a dual license, of AGPL for open-source plus a commercial license: http://www.aloha-editor.org/license.html

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] format=category is pretty naive in its implementation

2010-07-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi John, The category format was created by David Loomer and me, entirely with custom code (though I think we both looked at how the main MediaWiki code does it). In any case, if you want to take a crack at improving the code, that would definitely be welcome - you can just send a patch to the sem

Re: [SMW-devel] Job queue making trouble - properties passed from one page to another - SMW bug?

2010-07-07 Thread Yaron Koren
problem but perhaps not the only one. >> I will deactivate this extension for a while. But it still could be >> possible that the problem happens when saving a page or saving a page >> and some additional circumstances. >> I will report the result of the exp

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