[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread David Farmer via SIG-policy
I do not believe this policy will achieve its stated objective: to accelerate IPv6 implementation. Automatically delegating IPv6 address space to new and initial IPv4 requests, may increase the number of IPv6 delegations. But, the bar to get an IPv6 delegation is already pretty low, and it is not

[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread David Farmer via SIG-policy
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:49 PM Fernando Frediani wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024, 21:50 Christopher Hawker, > wrote: > >> NIRs may well continue to exist and perform their administrative >> functions under the umbrella of the RIR facilitating things in certain >> economies and cultures. >> >>

[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread MAEMURA Akinori
Dear Mike and Fernando, Mike: I have been under the impression that the APNIC NIRs must adhere to APNIC policies but could create their own policies if they don’t contradict those of APNIC. Yes.  Please notice the policy proposals in APNIC sig-policy often have the section of

[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread Christopher Hawker
Hello Fernando, To resume my initial point there is no point in allowing NIRs to develop and have specific policies, complicate and confuse things unecessarily. It only complicates and confuses things for people who have no idea or understanding what goes on and what they are talking about.

[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread Mike Burns
In the past I have had problems with the transfer policies of APNIC NIRs not matching APNIC’s own transfer policies. When those differences prevented a transfer I asked APNIC to intervene by imposing the (governing, to my mind) APNIC transfer policies on the recalcitrant NIR. And that was

[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread Fernando Frediani
To resume my initial point there is no point in allowing NIRs to develop and have specific policies, complicate and confuse things unecessarily. Policies developed by the entire RIR community is more than enough in order to regulate how IP addreess assignment is conducted as in all.other RIRs

[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread Fernando Frediani
Hi On Wed, 24 Jan 2024, 07:39 David Conrad, wrote: > Fernando, > > On Jan 24, 2024, at 4:19 AM, Fernando Frediani > wrote: > > No government should ever be able to mandate anything related to policy > development and how they apply to IP space assignment and use. > > I’m actually curious: why

[sig-policy] Re: New proposal: prop-158-v001: IPv6 auto-allocation for each IPv4 request

2024-01-24 Thread David Conrad
Fernando, On Jan 24, 2024, at 4:19 AM, Fernando Frediani wrote: > No government should ever be able to mandate anything related to policy > development and how they apply to IP space assignment and use. I’m actually curious: why do you believe you (or the RIRs) are able to tell governments