On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:49 PM Fernando Frediani <fhfredi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024, 21:50 Christopher Hawker, <ch...@thesysadmin.au> > wrote: > >> NIRs may well continue to exist and perform their administrative >> functions under the umbrella of the RIR facilitating things in certain >> economies and cultures. >> >> NIRs are independent of RIRs and operate via a NIR Member Relationship >> Agreement. The MRA outlines what NIRs are able to do. >> > > That is a problem on this discussion, a big missundertanding about how > things are organized in practice. > I think you are arguing about semantics; I believe APNIC gives NIRs significant latitude to create local policies and procedures appropriate to their local economies, culture, or laws; Nevertheless, the "APNIC and NIR Member Relationship Agreement" clearly states, "Recitals; c. ... National Internet Registries provide procedures and services that take account of local cultural differences, while operating in a way that remains consistent with regional and global resource management policies." Further, "2.3 Termination, a. APNIC may terminate this agreement in any of the following circumstances: 4. The NIR Member commits a substantial breach of this agreement or any APNIC Address Management Policy;" https://www.apnic.net/about-apnic/corporate-documents/documents/membership/nir-membership-agreement/ https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/operational-policies-nirs/ "APNIC and NIR Member Relationship Agreement" is a cooperative agreement or contract. It, therefore, doesn't override local or international laws, and the only real enforcement action is the termination of the agreement. Furthermore, I imagine APNIC would not pursue termination of the agreement except under the most egregious violation and only after both informal and formal opportunities to correct the situation. Can we please get back to the policy discussion at hand? Thanks. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:far...@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
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