At 2007-02-01 09:34:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And yes, when I see eight year girls vomiting their dinner out because
they don't want to get fat - it makes me want to weep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luisel_Ramos
Summary: 22-year-old Uruguayan model dies of a heart attack caused by
Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An aggregate of human judgment is
not the same as one human making a choice.
I perfectly understand how one human being can be altruistic. For their own
selfish reasons or otherwise. Through our actions, we hope to achieve what
we think we are capable
On 01-Feb-07, at 1:24 PM, Ingrid wrote:
personally, i think bollywood and fairness creams exacerbate ''the
fair is
lovely'' bias far more than beauty pageants do. not that we needed
any help
in that direction given age-old indian cultural biases.
Aren't they merely capitalising on an
On Thursday 01 Feb 2007 9:28 am, Thaths wrote:
On 1/31/07, Carey Lening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've posted! And I still believe I've a woman, at least anatomically.
We're not all lurkers.
I apologize. For some reason I only read the beginning of your name
and thought you were Casey,
further enhance her
unIndianness by thoroughly making her over
See that's my problem. By claiming that there is something that is unIndian
- (that is, something that negates the concept), people assert that there is
something Indian in the first place. So those of us who are not lanky,
lovely or
Neha Viswanathan wrote [at 02:46 PM 2/1/2007] :
I used to love Thursdays.
Like Arthur Dent?
Udhay
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Like Arthur Dent?
You miserable Geek. :)
As for Kiran's comment on the market cashing in on an existing cultural bias
- I couldn't agree more. I get annoyed when (Fair and Lovely) FL is blamed.
Or when someone with a cloying sense of virtue tells me My maid would
rather buy FL for 26 rupees
i laughed three thrice when i read that :-)
On 2/1/07, Neha Viswanathan wrote:
So those of us who are not lanky,
lovely or lassy enough to be unIndian in a good way will become unIndian in
a bad way.
here (and in many parts of africa) fatness is a kind of Africanness.
i have met some
men
On 2/1/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The market doesn't have to have a conscience.
why not?
--
The future is here; it's just not widely distributed yet. - William Gibson
why not?
Because the questions of good and bad are always subjective. As long as
they don't violate anyone's rights - they are only exercising their right to
make a profit.
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Neha Viswanathan
+44(0) 77695 65886
London, UK
http://withinandwithout.com |
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On 01/02/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why not?
Because the questions of good and bad are always subjective. As long as
they don't violate anyone's rights - they are only exercising their right to
make a profit.
Well put.
-- b
On 1/31/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, you have to admit that Carey is one of those unisex names
like Jean or Madhu. :)
Or Casey.
The journal where I'm an editorial assistant I frequently am emailed
as Ms. O'Donnell. I don't mind. I do feel a bit bad about the day I
meet
OK, self-confessed male lurker speaks... Udhay I hope you were sitting down
when you read this...
At least call centre employees are consciously made to sound like someone from
another country, as opposed to being a representative of his/her own...
TBH, I tend to agree that the article could
Ah, but they only make a profit because we, the consumers, let them, so in that
sense, we are the conscience...
An example that I can relate to is the classic MGB sports car - in 1974 they
changed from having chrome bumpers to rubber bumpers with a higher ride height
in the name of safety.
On 2/1/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, the word conscience continues to bother me. So does the word
Spiderman. :)
Not that anyone would really want to anyway, but best not read my
dissertation. I've been working some folks working on a game that
might be related to
i'm curious. is there any other human institution that is licensed to be
sociopathic?
On 2/2/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still, the seller doesn't have a conscience on his or her own. Only the
astuteness to perceive the consumer's conscience.
--
The future is here; it's
i'm curious. is there any other human institution that is licensed to be
sociopathic?
I believe most governments aren't licensed to be so - which explains the
mess in the world. :)
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Neha Viswanathan
+44(0) 77695 65886
London, UK
http://withinandwithout.com |
http://globalvoicesonline.org
On 02/02/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, the word conscience continues to bother me. So does the word
Spiderman. :)
With a great vocabulary comes great responsibility to be nit-picky. :)
Personally, I've always thought that 'conscience' ought to mean the
study of
Isn't this now the standard Corporate Social Responsibility argument?
As to whether it's all eyewash or a profit maximizing exercise or
noble intentions for the greater common good?
There's an interesting Economist article [1] on how corporations are
essentially psychopaths as also a documentary
On 02/02/07, Ingrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If corporate entities enjoy the rights and protections of citizens they can
and should, IMO, carry commensurate responsibility.
Oh, I agree with you. What I was trying to say is that with
individuals appealing to their consciences has some chance of
Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Still, the seller doesn't have a
conscience on his or her own. Only the
astuteness to perceive the consumer's conscience.
Of course, the word conscience continues to bother me. So does the word
Spiderman. :)
--
Neha Viswanathan
+44(0) 77695 65886
An aggregate of human judgment is not the same as one human making a choice.
I perfectly understand how one human being can be altruistic. For their own
selfish reasons or otherwise. Through our actions, we hope to achieve what
we think we are capable of. You cannot take the self out of any
On Wednesday 31 Jan 2007 12:56 pm, Deepa Mohan wrote:
only three routes exist for a woman of
India to reach or
exceed this internationally approved minimum altitude
requirement: Western
diet, partial Western ancestry, or atypical genetic
endowment.
blrp blrp blrp
While in India this past January, I witnessed on
television the height of
Western cultural imperialism. And that height, it
turns out, is five feet
six inches (or, more precisely, 167.5 centimeters).
That's how tall a young woman must be, minimum, to
enter the Miss India
contest. Never mind the
Badri Natarajan wrote: [ on 11:58 PM 1/31/2007 ]
There is a certain amount of truth to the point that they are being
moulded to fit the standards of beauty of the West and more specifically
moulded in every way to win one particular competition.
I don't see the problem - it's just like
On 1/31/07, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, this doesn't seem very different (to me) from providing
accent training to a call centre employee. From all accounts, the
women who enter these competitions view the training they receive as
an important career step.
Be that as it
Following the last, since when do you think this is somehow unusual or
respective to India?
The title could just as easily read, Miss USA, NOT representative of her
country.
Tara Conner (the current reigning queen of the Miss USA pageant) doesn't
exactly strike me as representative of most
On 01/02/07, Thaths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Be that as it may, I am curious to hear the opinions of the women in silklist.
Have you noticed that the women on Silklist (barring Deepa) mostly
lurk? I thought that Silk was not a particularly woman-unfriendly
space, but perhaps I am mistaken.
I've posted! And I still believe I've a woman, at least anatomically.
We're not all lurkers.
On 1/31/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/02/07, Thaths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Be that as it may, I am curious to hear the opinions of the women in
silklist.
Have you noticed that
On 1/31/07, Carey Lening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've posted! And I still believe I've a woman, at least anatomically.
We're not all lurkers.
I apologize. For some reason I only read the beginning of your name
and thought you were Casey, another silklister I met last year.
Thaths
--
Homer:
On 1/31/07, Carey Lening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've posted! And I still believe I've a woman, at least anatomically.
We're not all lurkers.
Also, Divya and Savita post regularly, Thaths! Large numbers of the
*men* also lurk out there (I typed luck)
Deepa.
On 2/1/07, Thaths [EMAIL
On 01/02/07, Carey Lening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've posted! And I still believe I've a woman, at least anatomically.
We're not all lurkers.
oops.
However, you have to admit that Carey is one of those unisex names
like Jean or Madhu. :)
Honest mistake!
So are we just seeing posts in
In all honesty, not being a Desi, there are a number of names on this list
that appear 'unisex' to me, but I will give you that my parents graced me
with a name commonly confused as masculine, especially after Joni Mitchell
sang of her 'old man' as my namesake ;)
Carey
On 1/31/07, Biju Chacko
will unlurk just long enough to register the presence of one Indian woman
who is genetically endowed enough to qualify for the miss india norm (well,
height-wise, at least) and whose name seems to connote no particular gender
in most parts of india. my favourite mis-spelling of it to date is
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