Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 01-Feb-07, at 1:24 PM, Ingrid wrote: personally, i think bollywood and fairness creams exacerbate ''the fair is lovely'' bias far more than beauty pageants do. not that we needed any help in that direction given age-old indian cultural biases. Aren't they merely capitalising on an

[silk] The HBR List: Breakthrough Ideas for 2007

2007-02-01 Thread Udhay Shankar N
The _Harvard Business Review_'s take on emerging ideas that will affect business this year. More detail on each item at the URL. Udhay http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbrsa/en/issue/0702/article/R0702A.jhtml The HBR List Breakthrough Ideas for 2007 Our annual survey of

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 01 Feb 2007 9:28 am, Thaths wrote: On 1/31/07, Carey Lening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've posted!  And I still believe I've a woman, at least anatomically. We're not all lurkers. I apologize. For some reason I only read the beginning of your name and thought you were Casey,

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Neha Viswanathan
further enhance her unIndianness by thoroughly making her over See that's my problem. By claiming that there is something that is unIndian - (that is, something that negates the concept), people assert that there is something Indian in the first place. So those of us who are not lanky, lovely or

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Neha Viswanathan wrote [at 02:46 PM 2/1/2007] : I used to love Thursdays. Like Arthur Dent? Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] dear lazyweb,

2007-02-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:00:32AM +0530, Sthitaprajna wrote: Build a desktop application, like Microsoft Money, or Quicken. These allow you to login to your preferred bank(mostly US based), and fetch your latest account details. If you want to initiate a transaction from the desktop,

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Neha Viswanathan
Like Arthur Dent? You miserable Geek. :) As for Kiran's comment on the market cashing in on an existing cultural bias - I couldn't agree more. I get annoyed when (Fair and Lovely) FL is blamed. Or when someone with a cloying sense of virtue tells me My maid would rather buy FL for 26 rupees

Re: [silk] Charles Haynes introduction

2007-02-01 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
So I've tried MTR, Dakshin, Sahib Sindh Sultan, Sikander, and Nandhini Paradise. I know I have to visit Shiok. Any other recommendations? I eat anything, I thought the Andhara food at Nandhini was nicely hot but I prefer hotter... Who has favorite places to recommend to the newbie? Coconut

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread ashok _
i laughed three thrice when i read that :-) On 2/1/07, Neha Viswanathan wrote: So those of us who are not lanky, lovely or lassy enough to be unIndian in a good way will become unIndian in a bad way. here (and in many parts of africa) fatness is a kind of Africanness. i have met some men

Re: [silk] Admin note

2007-02-01 Thread Anish Mohammed
Hi Udhay, I am curious can u give me a bit more details on DDOS incident :-) regards Anish On 2/1/07, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biju Chacko wrote: [ on 01:19 PM 1/31/2007 ] For some odd reason, this didn't turn up the regular way Silk was down for half a day yesterday,

Re: [silk] My intro

2007-02-01 Thread Anish Mohammed
Hi Shyam, welcome, btw are u the shyam from JIPMER who was on aduni ? regards Anish On 1/30/07, Shyam Visweswaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Should have posted this sometime back. Now seeing the recent intros I better do so. My name is Shyam and my only connection with Bangalore is

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Ingrid
On 2/1/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The market doesn't have to have a conscience. why not? -- The future is here; it's just not widely distributed yet. - William Gibson

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Neha Viswanathan
why not? Because the questions of good and bad are always subjective. As long as they don't violate anyone's rights - they are only exercising their right to make a profit. -- Neha Viswanathan +44(0) 77695 65886 London, UK http://withinandwithout.com | http://globalvoicesonline.org

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Biju Chacko
On 01/02/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not? Because the questions of good and bad are always subjective. As long as they don't violate anyone's rights - they are only exercising their right to make a profit. Well put. -- b

[silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
Yahoogroups is having big problems. I'm about to jump ship on them -- this time for real, if they don't fix it. What Yahoogroups does is to act as a spam and malware conduit, and flagging account bounces (because the email account owners rightfully deny malware and spam delivery) as inactive.

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Udhay Shankar N
At 06:20 PM 2/1/2007, Eugen Leitl wrote: Yahoogroups is having big problems. I'm about to jump ship on them -- this time for real, if they don't fix it. I'm not sure that Yahoo actually knows what it wants to do with Yahoogroups. I had this impression even when I was actually working

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Casey O'Donnell
On 1/31/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, you have to admit that Carey is one of those unisex names like Jean or Madhu. :) Or Casey. The journal where I'm an editorial assistant I frequently am emailed as Ms. O'Donnell. I don't mind. I do feel a bit bad about the day I meet

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Biju Chacko
On 01/02/07, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the problem with mailman? I've run lists with smartlist, ezmlm, sympa, lyris, listcaster, majordomo, mailman and a few anonymous others, and mailman seems to be not very different fron any of the others on the list. Except smartlist.

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:46:54PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: What's the problem with mailman? I've run lists with smartlist, I think I'm just mailman-'tarded. Could never get it to work with postfix, but then, I never tried long enough. Once it runs, it does reasonably okay. Btw --

[silk] Offline Wikipedia...

2007-02-01 Thread ashok _
...but only in French, for the moment http://www.moulinwiki.org/ Basically, moulin is a fully interactive, offline version of the entire Wikipedia (without pictures) on a CD. The initial French version consists of the entire French Wikipedia: 404,903 articles all fitting on an ISO 554MBs

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 01/02/07 15:12 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:46:54PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: What's the problem with mailman? I've run lists with smartlist, I think I'm just mailman-'tarded. Could never get it to work with postfix, but then, I never tried long enough.

Re: [silk] Offline Wikipedia...

2007-02-01 Thread Thaths
On 2/1/07, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.moulinwiki.org/ Basically, moulin is a fully interactive, offline version of the entire Wikipedia (without pictures) on a CD. The initial French version consists of the entire French Wikipedia: 404,903 articles all fitting on an ISO 554MBs

Re: [silk] Offline Wikipedia...

2007-02-01 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On 2/1/07, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...but only in French, for the moment http://www.moulinwiki.org/ Basically, moulin is a fully interactive, offline version of the entire Wikipedia (without pictures) on a CD. The initial French version consists of the entire French Wikipedia:

Re: [silk] Charles Haynes introduction + Veena Stores

2007-02-01 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Biju Chacko wrote: easy to miss. The food there tends to finish quickly, so before 9am or between 4pm and 6pm are the best times to go. This seems to have changed... The last time I ate there was around 11am on a weekday and the idlis were still piping hot. Another great place for Idlis used

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Thaths
On 2/1/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoogroups is having big problems. I'm about to jump ship on them -- this time for real, if they don't fix it. snip I'd really hate to learn mailman (apt-get install mailman is easy enough, but afterwards), but apparently this is what I have

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Thaths wrote: On 2/1/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoogroups is having big problems. I'm about to jump ship on them -- this time for real, if they don't fix it. snip I'd really hate to learn mailman (apt-get install mailman is easy enough, but afterwards), but apparently this

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:25:41AM -0800, Thaths wrote: I'd really hate to learn mailman (apt-get install mailman is easy enough, but afterwards), but apparently this is what I have to do. Have you considered Google groups? Also, if you buy your hosting space No, because I want to keep

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Thaths
On 2/1/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:25:41AM -0800, Thaths wrote: Have you considered Google groups? Also, if you buy your hosting space No, because I want to keep control over my stuff. With due respect, are you not currently running your mailing lists

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:13:53AM -0800, Thaths wrote: With due respect, are you not currently running your mailing lists off This is precisely my predilection, and the reason why I've learned to never rely on other people, especially on what other people give you for free. Oh, and it's list,

Re: [silk] yahoogroups is eating itself

2007-02-01 Thread Binand Sethumadhavan
On 01/02/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ezmlm, mailman seems to the most actively developed. Yes, there's really no major alternative to Mailman as far as I can see. There's couriermlm, which doesn't have a web interface - relies solely on email-based administration. Quite actively

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Calvin
OK, self-confessed male lurker speaks... Udhay I hope you were sitting down when you read this... At least call centre employees are consciously made to sound like someone from another country, as opposed to being a representative of his/her own... TBH, I tend to agree that the article could

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Calvin
Ah, but they only make a profit because we, the consumers, let them, so in that sense, we are the conscience... An example that I can relate to is the classic MGB sports car - in 1974 they changed from having chrome bumpers to rubber bumpers with a higher ride height in the name of safety.

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Casey O'Donnell
On 2/1/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, the word conscience continues to bother me. So does the word Spiderman. :) Not that anyone would really want to anyway, but best not read my dissertation. I've been working some folks working on a game that might be related to

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Ingrid
i'm curious. is there any other human institution that is licensed to be sociopathic? On 2/2/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still, the seller doesn't have a conscience on his or her own. Only the astuteness to perceive the consumer's conscience. -- The future is here; it's

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Neha Viswanathan
i'm curious. is there any other human institution that is licensed to be sociopathic? I believe most governments aren't licensed to be so - which explains the mess in the world. :) -- Neha Viswanathan +44(0) 77695 65886 London, UK http://withinandwithout.com | http://globalvoicesonline.org

Re: [silk] My intro

2007-02-01 Thread Shyam Visweswaran
Hi Anish, Yup. I was in aduni's one and only graduating class. Aduni's experiment was to teach core undergraduate CS material in 11 months to folks who already had an advanced degree in a completely unrelated field. The class consisted of a motley crowd of lawyers, teachers, anthropologists, etc.

Re: [silk] My intro

2007-02-01 Thread Shyam Visweswaran
--- Anish Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have come across that sentiment in India but not in the US. From my experience Indians are not alone it does exist in Europe, I could vouch for atleast two or more European countries. Do these European education systems allow one to go

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Biju Chacko
On 02/02/07, Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, the word conscience continues to bother me. So does the word Spiderman. :) With a great vocabulary comes great responsibility to be nit-picky. :) Personally, I've always thought that 'conscience' ought to mean the study of

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Gautam John
Isn't this now the standard Corporate Social Responsibility argument? As to whether it's all eyewash or a profit maximizing exercise or noble intentions for the greater common good? There's an interesting Economist article [1] on how corporations are essentially psychopaths as also a documentary

Re: [silk] Charles Haynes introduction + Veena Stores

2007-02-01 Thread Dinesh, Servelots
Near BMS.. Kamat Bugle Rock serving jolada rotti meals, on the roof top with the local traditional musicians signing up for playing Each day of the week has a theme.. Sometimes it drizzles and sometimes there are flowers falling off the tall trees next door onto the open center between

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Biju Chacko
On 02/02/07, Ingrid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If corporate entities enjoy the rights and protections of citizens they can and should, IMO, carry commensurate responsibility. Oh, I agree with you. What I was trying to say is that with individuals appealing to their consciences has some chance of

Re: [silk] My intro

2007-02-01 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:04:56PM -, Shyam Visweswaran wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Srini RamaKrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Welcome to Silk, I am an ex-burgh, ex-bangalore, now in HYD person. Where do you spend your day? At school? Work? Ah ex-burgher! I am in school at

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Calvin
Neha Viswanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Still, the seller doesn't have a conscience on his or her own. Only the astuteness to perceive the consumer's conscience. Of course, the word conscience continues to bother me. So does the word Spiderman. :) -- Neha Viswanathan +44(0) 77695 65886

Re: [silk] Charles Haynes introduction

2007-02-01 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:47:28PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: [...] Will think of more by and by. I am surprised that Udhay hasn't mentioned Fanoos so far, I remember it being a favorite of his. I can't add a surprise location, other than second what everyone else has mentioned so far.

Re: [silk] Miss India..NOT representative of her country

2007-02-01 Thread Neha Viswanathan
An aggregate of human judgment is not the same as one human making a choice. I perfectly understand how one human being can be altruistic. For their own selfish reasons or otherwise. Through our actions, we hope to achieve what we think we are capable of. You cannot take the self out of any

Re: [silk] Charles Haynes introduction

2007-02-01 Thread Aditya Kapil
Yes, but their 'bonda rasam' is superb. Adit. On 2/1/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/01/07, Badri Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I liked the authenticity of Kadambam - some of the dishes and atmosphere really did feel like homecooked south Indian food. Branch in

Re: [silk] Charles Haynes introduction

2007-02-01 Thread Aditya Kapil
Pity! A. On 2/2/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toms: I was told that was good, but when I visited it, it had the standard menu of a low end multi-cuisine restaurant.

Re: [silk] Charles Haynes introduction

2007-02-01 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Biju Chacko wrote [at 12:59 PM 2/2/2007] : Toms: I was told that was good, but when I visited it, it had the standard menu of a low end multi-cuisine restaurant. Tom's has undergone at least 2 changes of management, and kitchen staff, since the time Adit is talking about. It is not a place