Re: [silk] Kochi or Kabini
Biju Chacko wrote: On Dec 16, 2007 8:33 PM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Kerala had this kind of temperatures all year round I'd consider moving there. We loved the backwaters. Kerala is a nice place to visit but I'd hate to actually live there. I'm probably biased though. ;-) I concur. :) -- * Madhu Menon Shiok Far-eastern Cuisine Indiranagar, Bangalore Visit us @ http://www.shiokfood.com Phone: (080) 4116 1800 My food photos: http://flickr.com/photos/themadman
Re: [silk] Kochi or Kabini
On Dec 17, 2007 2:13 PM, Madhu Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biju Chacko wrote: [...] Kerala is a nice place to visit but I'd hate to actually live there. I'm probably biased though. ;-) I concur. :) Reasons?
Re: [silk] Kochi or Kabini
On Dec 17, 2007 3:21 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 2:13 PM, Madhu Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biju Chacko wrote: [...] Kerala is a nice place to visit but I'd hate to actually live there. I'm probably biased though. ;-) I concur. :) Reasons? I'd like to know too! I only spent a week there, during a salubrious time of year - what are the downsides that I'm missing? -- Charles
Re: [silk] Kochi or Kabini
On Dec 17, 2007 3:27 PM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 3:21 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 2:13 PM, Madhu Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biju Chacko wrote: [...] Kerala is a nice place to visit but I'd hate to actually live there. I'm probably biased though. ;-) I concur. :) Reasons? I'd like to know too! I only spent a week there, during a salubrious time of year - what are the downsides that I'm missing? In my case (and I suspect the same is true of Madhu) I just have an excessive number of relatives there. ;-) -- b
Re: [silk] Kochi or Kabini
On 12/17/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 3:27 PM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 3:21 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 2:13 PM, Madhu Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biju Chacko wrote: [...] Kerala is a nice place to visit but I'd hate to actually live there. I'm probably biased though. ;-) I concur. :) Reasons? I'd like to know too! I only spent a week there, during a salubrious time of year - what are the downsides that I'm missing? In my case (and I suspect the same is true of Madhu) I just have an excessive number of relatives there. ;-) No, it's not the number of relatives which matters, but the fact that they all mind your business! I used to hate Chennai for this same reason...still do. Deepa. -- b
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Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 41, Issue 34
Kerala is a nice place to visit but I'd hate to actually live there. I'm probably biased though. ;-) I concur. :) Reasons? I'd like to know too! I only spent a week there, during a salubrious time of year - what are the downsides that I'm missing? In my case (and I suspect the same is true of Madhu) I just have an excessive number of relatives there. ;-) No, it's not the number of relatives which matters, but the fact that they all mind your business! I used to hate Chennai for this same reason...still do. Deepa. Relatives do have one advantage though. They teach you two very important things: how to develop a thick skin particularly in the case of Madras Mamis who speak their mind; and how to fob people off especially the ones who incessantly inquire about the next stage in life-- when are you going to get married, when are you going to have kids, when are you going to get kids married, etc. etc. Sadly, I am finding a singular lack of intersection with relatives here in Bangalore to the point where I am missing it!
Re: [silk] silklist Digest, Vol 41, Issue 34
On Dec 18, 2007 7:56 AM, Shoba Narayan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kerala is a nice place to visit but I'd hate to actually live there. I'm probably biased though. ;-) I concur. :) Reasons? I'd like to know too! I only spent a week there, during a salubrious time of year - what are the downsides that I'm missing? In my case (and I suspect the same is true of Madhu) I just have an excessive number of relatives there. ;-) No, it's not the number of relatives which matters, but the fact that they all mind your business! I used to hate Chennai for this same reason...still do. Deepa. Relatives do have one advantage though. They teach you two very important things: how to develop a thick skin particularly in the case of Madras Mamis who speak their mind; and how to fob people off especially the ones who incessantly inquire about the next stage in life-- when are you going to get married, when are you going to have kids, when are you going to get kids married, etc. etc. Sadly, I am finding a singular lack of intersection with relatives here in Bangalore to the point where I am missing it! Madras Mamis speak their mind? It's their lack of directness that I personally object to...the would-be honesty can be easily scraped aside to reveal the narrow-minded, judgemental attitudes...sorry, I *have* met nice Madras Mamis, too (I hope I was one when I was there)..but...most of them...yeugghhh. Deepa.
Re: [silk] pic of the year
At 2007-12-18 09:47:04 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't able to get anything but a thin sliver of photograph! Click on the VIEW IN LARGEST SIZE thing. -- ams
Re: [silk] pic of the year
Personally, I think going this far wide doesn't help in this case. The whole pink against grey/dirt thing is lost. If he'd gotten a little closer and had only a 180 deg pan (3-4 images at most), this photo would have been much better. But then, that's my opinion. And photography is pretty subjective and all that. (There, all escape clauses plugged in) The only interesting part of that photo for me was in the middle, where the smoke-stacks are in view. C -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.linkedin.com/in/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ +91-9884467463
Re: [silk] pic of the year
Having said that, I do know it is difficult getting a decent panorama. I've tried a hundred times, and only managed to get 1 or 2 which I liked. C -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.linkedin.com/in/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ +91-9884467463
Re: [silk] pic of the year
On Dec 18, 2007 10:54 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, I do know it is difficult getting a decent panorama. I've tried a hundred times, and only managed to get 1 or 2 which I liked. Really? I can't imagine it being so with the new generation of digital cameras some of which even come with a pano mode. I've had pretty decent success with these cameras even when shooting without a tripod. Perhaps you refer to the film variants? And, yeah, I thought the photo lost it too - only partly due to the fault of the photographer. The Mumbai skyline's smog overshadows the flamingos. There were many elements in the picture, each of which could have made a nice subject all by itself, but together it seems to lose all voice. Really a more picturesque location and a tighter crop that highlights the subject matter would have made it more appealing to me. Art is subjective, so I won't apologize for being subjective. Cheeni
Re: [silk] pic of the year
On 18/12/2007, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I can't imagine it being so with the new generation of digital cameras some of which even come with a pano mode. I've had pretty decent success with these cameras even when shooting without a tripod. Perhaps you refer to the film variants? Yeah, my new camera does have a stitch-assist mode. But what makes getting a panorama difficult, especially in places which see a fair amount of movement/people is that unexpected details get recorded. And these unexpected/unwanted detail are the closest to you - like in the photo above - which showed all those ropes and cables and other bric-brac of the jetty on either end of the pan. Also, if like me you are shooting hand-held, it's difficult to align images when stitching. Need to get me a tripod. subjective, so I won't apologize for being subjective. :) C -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.linkedin.com/in/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ +91-9884467463
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[silk] Mind Your Language
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=029e27cc-99df-4664-8aba-ab8a6b43b2eeHeadline=Counterpoint%3a+Mind+Your+Language Vir Sanghvi, Hindustan Times December 15, 2007 Mind Your Language Am I glad that I no longer edit a magazine or a newspaper? You bet! It isn't that I mind the work -- I quite enjoy the thrill of putting a publication together. My relief stems from something entirely different. I no longer know what rules to apply when it comes to language. There are so many variations of English floating around that it has become almost impossible to decide what is a mistake and what is acceptable usage; what is jargon and what is gibberish. All Indian editors start out by watching out for the traditional mistakes that are the trademark of sub-continental English. Top of the list is the misuse of the word inform to mean said: as in he informed. Then there are the Indian words like air-dashed (the minister air-dashed to Delhi) or youngmen which is really two words needlessly fused into one (and on par with gangs of youths, another Indian usage). Nobody in India is ever strangled, they are always strangulated (we like big words) and there are few criminals, only miscreants. The Indian obsession with polite euphemism is best captured by our reluctance to admit that anybody has ever died. They have expired (like a passport or a driving license) or passed away or, even, left for heavenly abode. But the obsession with euphemism often translates into mistakes -- few Indian newspapers bother to distinguish between marriage or wedding (the actual ceremony) so you will always read that there were 200 marriages in the city yesterday so traffic was jammed. It isn't that I mind the work -- I quite enjoy the thrill of putting a publication together. Some of the Indian usages are regional. Gujaratis have colonised the word fine to mean good to the extent that is part of our language (bahu fine chhe) and as far as Bengalis are concerned, all the maa-bahen gaalis mean nothing compared to the biggest insult of them all: You are a nonsense! North Indians and Punjabis contribute their own pronunciations and usages to the glorious traditions of the English language. In my TV job, I have to worry about pronunciation: why are there roits in Ghaziabad and why are the loins dying in the Gir forest? Why should the DMK pledge its sport to the Centre when all that the Congress wanted was support? Why should India and Pakistan make a giant declaration when a joint declaration would have been enough? (There are some unintentionally funny moments though. A minister in our Foreign Office during the last administration believed that his British counterpart was called Jackie Straw -- because of the north Indian tradition of putting an ee sound before an s as in iskool, istudio. And when General Zia-ul-Haq called Imran Khan the Lion of the Punjab, Benazir Bhutto retorted that in the Punjab, they said lion when they meant loin -- which in Imran's case was entirely appropriate.) In print terms, however, the biggest problem for anyone editing copy in Delhi these days is that ninety per cent of young journalists do not know where to put the definite article -- where a or the go in a sentence -- largely because they are not writing the English very well. A second problem is that they have no sense of number. Is police singular or plural? Why must every airline be treated as plural (The airlines said that its pilots were on strike) for half the sentence? But, in defence of Indian English, there's a certain practical logic to some of our usages. There may be no such word as prepone but if there is postpone, then doesn't prepone capture the sense of advancing something? And isn't relook crisper than take another look? Then, there are the literal translations from Hindi. We all say, Isn't it? at the end of sentences when we mean the Hindi hai na? And the misuse of only to mean the Hindi hee has been immortalised in the Channel V slogan, We are like this only. But we should recognise that it's not just Indians who misuse the language. All over the world some mistakes have because so common that we now accept the wrong usage over the correct one. For instance, hopeful only means full of hope (as in I am hopeful that we will win). But it has been twisted to mean with a bit of luck as in, Hopefully, there will not be too much rain tomorrow. Exotic simply means foreign. In Harold Evans' stylebook for journos (Newsman's English), he famously noted an Italian peasant is as exotic as Gina Lollobrigida. But we now use the word to mean glamourous and unusual. Americans routinely misuse English words so often that language teachers have all but given up. In America, momentarily does not mean for a moment but in a moment (I will be with you momentarily). This usage doesn't make it into big city papers but you find it in papers throughout the Midwest and on TV. Some words are on the verge of losing their original meaning. Many
