[silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investment opportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
A wonderful initiative from both a social and developmental perspective. Infrastructure in Kerala could do with some improvement. I'm not aware of any country where standard banking and Islamic banking regulations coexist and it would be very interesting how regulations will change to accomodate

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread anish . mohammed
Kiran, Apologies for the top post (blame it on blackberry). I am assuming as one of the target population, I found this an intersting develpment. I have to admit that I came across a report on Forrester on islamic banking, I am gald that kerala gov has taken the initiative for right or wrong

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread Nikhil Mehra
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, anish.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Kiran, Apologies for the top post (blame it on blackberry). I am assuming as one of the target population, I found this an intersting develpment. I have to admit that I came across a report on Forrester on islamic banking, I am

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/10/8 anish.moham...@gmail.com Co-existance of islamic ( this definition is gray area) with normal banking exists in some european countries, I believe there is even a few operating in US (according to report). I'm aware of co-existence to the extent that they are available, but are they

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creatinginvestmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread anish . mohammed
Apolpgies for top post again, the concept of insurance (as we know it) is unislamic (with my limited knowledge), so I be suprised if one would expect such a thing. The key with islamic banking is investor shares ur risk ( again limited knowledge) Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creatinginvestmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread Nikhil Mehra
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM, anish.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Apolpgies for top post again, the concept of insurance (as we know it) is unislamic (with my limited knowledge), so I be suprised if one would expect such a thing. The key with islamic banking is investor shares ur risk ( again

Re: [silk] Hal Finney: Dying Outside

2009-10-08 Thread ss
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 10:02:51 am Udhay Shankar N wrote: I hope that when the time comes, I will choose life. ALS kills only motor neurons, which carry signals to the muscles. I wish this man well. My own father chose death. I was by his side and fed him his last meal - much of which went

Re: [silk] Hal Finney: Dying Outside

2009-10-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 03:01:45PM +0530, ss wrote: My own father chose death. I was by his side and fed him his last meal - much of which went into his lungs. The thing that died was not really my father, who had gone some months earlier. Sad to hear that. Nasogastric tube or parenteral

Re: [silk] e: Silk-meet in BLR (Oct 17) (Zainab Bawa)

2009-10-08 Thread ss
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 10:05:23 am Shoba Narayan wrote: October 17 is Diwali day, I cannot.  If the day can be moved, please   let me know. ditto for me shiv

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread ss
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 2:04:21 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: Indeed, China appears to be the most enthusiastic of all the financial powers involved, not least because of its enormous trade with the Middle East. What's in it for China? If China can't trade oil in US$ what will China do with the

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
ss wrote, [on 10/8/2009 3:24 PM]: Indeed, China appears to be the most enthusiastic of all the financial powers involved, not least because of its enormous trade with the Middle East. What's in it for China? If China can't trade oil in US$ what will China do with the $ 1 trillion its

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Udhay Shankar N [08/10/09 15:30 +0530]: Very good question, that I was wondering about too. Maybe we'll find out more over the next few weeks. It depends - how much do we want to hurt ourselves while hurting the USA might be one potential question that gets asked. Or a way to drive down $

[silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Amidst this talk of silkmeets c., something that has been on my mind: Silklist will be 12 years old in December. A fair while to keep chugging along. Any thoughts on things to do? Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/10/8 Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com Amidst this talk of silkmeets c., something that has been on my mind: Silklist will be 12 years old in December. A fair while to keep chugging along. Any thoughts on things to do Get a cake with 12 inextinguishable candles and ask all habitual top

[silk] Cory on xkcd.com again

2009-10-08 Thread Venkat Mangudi
This time on the mouse over text http://xkcd.com/527/http://xkcd.com/527/

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Udhay Shankar N wrote: Any thoughts on things to do? Let's all toast to silk... drink a 12-yr old single malt... V

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread Aadisht Khanna
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: I'm aware of co-existence to the extent that they are available, but are they also covered by regulations, deposit insurance etc.? Are there for example, different capital adequacy norms for Islamic

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/10/8 ss cybers...@gmail.com On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 2:04:21 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: Indeed, China appears to be the most enthusiastic of all the financial powers involved, not least because of its enormous trade with the Middle East. What's in it for China? If China can't trade

Re: [silk] Hal Finney: Dying Outside

2009-10-08 Thread ss
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 3:12:53 pm Eugen Leitl wrote: Sad to hear that. Nasogastric tube or parenteral feeding was not an option? No. My father was a brave man in his life. But he was chicken when it came to surgery. He died the night before I was to have a feeding gastrostomy done. How are

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread ss
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 3:34:08 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: Any thoughts on things to do? Hang in there for another 12 years? shiv

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 04:26:39PM +0530, Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: The problem that China faces is that with its $200 billion trade surplus with the US, and most of the foreign direct investment into China being in $, and the fact that it doesn't want to devalue its own currency means it

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread ss
On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 3:34:08 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: Silklist will be 12 years old in December. A fair while to keep chugging along. The thread title actually reminded me of a (beautiful, classic) Hindi song yodeled by Kishore Kumar Pach rupaiya barah anna Marega bhaiya na baba na..

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/10/8 Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org Oh, and I'm still working on the pirate party program: http://eugen.leitl.org/pirateprogram.txt and could use some input. No inputs, but I like symmetric upstream/downstream. In India, upload is usually less than half of the download bandwidth, though one

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 04:52:36PM +0530, Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: No inputs, but I like symmetric upstream/downstream. In India, upload is usually less than half of the download bandwidth, though one ISP has a symmetric plan now. It is obvious why assymetric bandwidth is the norm, people

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Indrajit Gupta
--- On Thu, 8/10/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote: From: ss cybers...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [silk] Barah anno To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Date: Thursday, 8 October, 2009, 4:42 PM On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 3:34:08 pm Udhay Shankar N wrote: Silklist will be 12 years old in December. A

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread Thaths
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Aadisht Khanna aadisht.gro...@gmail.com wrote: [1] Only mild exaggeration. The Islamic Banking division of my former employer was run by a TamBrahm. The most senior Muslims were the advisory council who passed judgement on whether the products devised were halal

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creatinginvestmentopportunities for Muslims

2009-10-08 Thread anish . mohammed
Apologies for top post Hi That's, I had concerns along similiar lines ( there is lot of grey area in this space, if it is regular bankers (implying not influenced by sharia), then practice would be different from theory/advice ) Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
Udhay (no this is NOT a top-post)...who was the second person on the list? The first ten people...or 12 people? Valid, though not pc question to ask...are all the members alive? And how did you celebrate the tenth anniversary? Deepa.

Re: [silk] Hal Finney: Dying Outside

2009-10-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
No No - I was spouting Hindu philosophy there. Death is not the end of life. Death is an essential and unavoidable component of life. I learnt a little more about this disease when I went for this walk: http://walkcsoh.alsa.org/site/TR?sid=4340type=fr_informationalpg=informationalfr_id=5837

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Deepa Mohan wrote, [on 10/8/2009 7:50 PM]: Udhay (no this is NOT a top-post)...who was the second person on the list? I was, I think, or maybe it was Ram. Bharath was the first person on the list [1] - he was the list admin (as opposed to the cat-herder) for several years. The first ten

[silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Deepak Misra
Would anyone nearabouts Indiranagar , Airport road bangalore be having the Dell Cd for this model ? I have a laptop given to me without the CD but am not able to proceed after Windows installation. it does not recognize the network card and some other peripherals I have tried downloading the

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: [...] What are your thoughts around how to commemorate this anniversary? When and where is the annual meetup, i.e foucamp? I might want to combine it with a trip to India. Cheeni

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Deepak Misra wrote: Would anyone nearabouts Indiranagar , Airport road bangalore be having the Dell Cd for this model ? I have a laptop given to me without the CD but am not able to proceed after Windows installation. it does not recognize the network card and some other peripherals I have

Re: [silk] Cory on xkcd.com again

2009-10-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.comwrote: This time on the mouse over text http://xkcd.com/527/http://xkcd.com/527/ I got a 404 on that Deepa.

Re: [silk] Barah anno

2009-10-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Srini RamaKrishnan wrote, [on 10/8/2009 9:30 PM]: When and where is the annual meetup, i.e foucamp? I might want to combine it with a trip to India. Still open - no fixed date, so throw in your India dates and we'll work something around it. Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com))

Re: [silk] Cory on xkcd.com again

2009-10-08 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Deepa Mohan wrote: http://xkcd.com/527/http://xkcd.com/527/ I got a 404 on that A-ha, I see the problem. I pasted the link twice. Try this please... http://xkcd.com/527/ V

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Deepak Misra
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.comwrote: Deepak Misra wrote: Try Ubuntu! You'll not miss anything. :-) As a bonus, your devices should work right away. If you insist on sticking with Windows, let me find out if anybody I know can help. Ubuntu is the

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Deepak Misra wrote: Ubuntu is the fall back plan. This is for my children who are die hard windows supporters due to familiarity. I do have Ubuntu installed on my desktop If you have enough memory, install Ubuntu and Virtual Box. Run windows within Virtual box. All devices should work, I

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/10/8 Deepak Misra dee...@deepakmisra.com: Would anyone  nearabouts Indiranagar , Airport road bangalore be having the Dell Cd for this model ? I have a laptop given to me without the CD but am not able to proceed after Windows installation. it does not recognize the network card and some

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Deepak Misra
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/8 Deepak Misra dee...@deepakmisra.com: Would anyone nearabouts Indiranagar , Airport road bangalore be having the Dell Cd for this model ? I have a laptop given to me without the CD but am

Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/10/8 Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com: and the fact that it doesn't want to devalue its own currency means it has to keep buying $ to keep it at its current level. Correction - buying $ actually leads to the value of the Yuan decreasing. What they don't want is it

Re: [silk] Hal Finney: Dying Outside

2009-10-08 Thread Kiran K Karthikeyan
2009/10/8 Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com: http://lesswrong.com/lw/1ab/dying_outside/ I may even still be able to write code, and my dream is to contribute to open source software projects even from within an immobile body. That will be a life very much worth living. Though it is not clear

Re: [silk] Hal Finney: Dying Outside

2009-10-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Kiran K Karthikeyan [09/10/09 01:07 +0530]: Though it is not clear from the article, I wonder if the rationale is based on economics i.e. the justification for the costs of being kept alive is that he is still able to contribute to such projects. The rationale is to find a reason, any reason

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Biju Chacko
This is one of the standard models in my company. So I should be able to get the drivers from my IT dept. My office is in Diamond District on Old Airport Rd so that should work. Contact me offlist to co-ordinate. -- b On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Deepak Misra dee...@deepakmisra.com wrote:

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Biju Chacko
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: This is one of the standard models in my company. So I should be able to get the drivers from my IT dept. My office is in Diamond District on  Old Airport Rd so that should work. Contact me offlist to co-ordinate. -- b

[silk] Ouch

2009-10-08 Thread Biju Chacko
http://xkcd.com/647 This happens to me everyday at work. I'll toss out a reference to Top Gun or Bladerunner and somebody'll ask why they should recognise a reference to something that happened before they were born. -- b

Re: [silk] Help with Dell Latitude D630

2009-10-08 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
work. Quite likely that i installed them in the wrong order. The correct order is here: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?docid=1A0C0937D62A8739E0401E0A55174744 Ram

Re: [silk] Ouch

2009-10-08 Thread Lahar Appaiah
It happens to me a lot with He-Man and Giant Robot. That said, everyone recognizes Star Wars quotes (though that came out even before I was born). On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: http://xkcd.com/647 This happens to me everyday at work. I'll toss out