[silk] Silk, the interactive edition

2011-01-17 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Heh. (Warning: needs javascript) http://weavesilk.com/ Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread ss
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 1:24:25 pm Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: Are we the only country with multiple identities? Could you name a few countries with multiple identities for comparison? Other tan the USA that is. shiv

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Mahesh Murthy
I think that this kind of identity-based politics is imperative for India's survival. Whether identity came first or identity politics is not a chicken-and-egg kind of question. Identity definitely came first, and it is practical for our politics to reflect it. Are we the only country with

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Vijay Anand
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I think that this kind of identity-based politics is imperative for India's survival. Whether identity came first or identity politics is not a chicken-and-egg kind of question. Identity definitely came first, and it

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Nikhil Mehra
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 January 2011 12:36, Nikhil Mehra nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com wrote: I think that this kind of identity-based politics is imperative for India's survival. Whether identity came first or identity

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Thaths
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:56 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 17 Jan 2011 1:24:25 pm Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote: Are we the only country with multiple identities? Could you name a few countries with multiple identities for comparison? Other tan the USA that is. Fiji has people that

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Anand Manikutty
In fact (and I think I may be repeating some of the stuff I have said on silk before) - I believe that the organized religions like Christianity and Islam were the fisrt attempt at giving large groups of humans a common cause for owrking together. Interesting post, Shiv. This may sound

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Anand Manikutty
With a broad enough definition of identity [1], [2] : The United Kingdom, France, Germany, Spain. And the Republic of South Africa, and the erstwhile Republic of Upper Volta (now Burkina Faso), and the erstwhile Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (the general region of the former

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Deepak S
Russia .. czarist, soviet (retro / neo) and a post soviet Euro one as well. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:36, Anand Manikutty manikuttyan...@yahoo.com wrote: With a broad enough definition of identity [1], [2] : The United Kingdom, France, Germany, Spain. And the Republic of

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Bharath Chari
On Saturday 15 January 2011 07:53 AM, ss wrote: On Saturday 15 Jan 2011 2:49:36 am Jon Cox wrote: Pakistan too is an example of a group of people using Islam to change the sacrosanct borders of nation states. shiv delurk I notice that you refuse/omit to preface a lot of your posts about

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Nikhil Mehra
Thanks. But I think this debate was meant to be political and constitutional not anything else. It was always about detailing political groups and they do or not do not form. Even if they are clearly based on matters of identity that the groups themselves identify as matters of identity. In

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Anand Manikutty
It may sound pointless to you, but that is because you don't know what I am talking about. Have you read the paper and book cited? If anything, I am the only one implying that we should change the discussion to what the killing was really about, and also that identity can be based on soft things

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread divya manian
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Bharath Chari ch...@arachnis.com wrote: I notice that you refuse/omit to preface a lot of your posts about Pakistan/Islam with I think/I believe. Sacrosanct? Borders? Nation States? Somehow, implicit in (now over a decade) your arguments, is that _India_, as a

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread ss
On Tuesday 18 Jan 2011 1:08:44 am Bharath Chari wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2011 07:53 AM, ss wrote: On Saturday 15 Jan 2011 2:49:36 am Jon Cox wrote: Pakistan too is an example of a group of people using Islam to change the sacrosanct borders of nation states. shiv delurk I

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread ss
On Monday 17 Jan 2011 11:01:50 pm Anand Manikutty wrote: but it is worth noting that large groups of people have worked together since the time of the Pyramids. Formally, Management is a factor of production that can move economic outcomes closer to the productivity frontier. The

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Bharath Chari
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 08:34 AM, ss wrote: _India_, as a concept, has existed far longer than evidence/history warrants. What do you mean by India as a concept? A concept can be a very subjective thing based on individual perceptions and experiences. So unless we first sort of what the

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread ss
On Tuesday 18 Jan 2011 9:03:32 am Bharath Chari wrote: I was referring to the sovereign, socialist, secular, democratic republic of India. You mean the post 1947 Republic of India. This is the only India that has any definition or shape. And comes bundled with rules to maintain that shape

Re: [silk] Silk, the interactive edition

2011-01-17 Thread Biju Chacko
talk about thread drift! On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Heh. (Warning: needs javascript) http://weavesilk.com/ Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Silk, the interactive edition

2011-01-17 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote: talk about thread drift! I hear that a movie is based on the life of late actress Silk Smitha is being made, with Vidya Balan playing Silk Smitha. Can we draft Vidya into Silk list :-) Venky

Re: [silk] Stochastic Terrorism

2011-01-17 Thread Anand Manikutty
Shiv: I can think of at least half a dozen groups of people (or organizations - that is about all the management jargon I am using; I am, however, using a lot of rather precise terms from economics, sociology and political science in my posts on the List) that were united in a common cause before

Re: [silk] Silk, the interactive edition

2011-01-17 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.comwrote: I hear that a movie is based on the life of late actress Silk Smitha is being made, with Vidya Balan playing Silk Smitha. Can we draft Vidya into Silk list :-) To ensure more thread drift... when my daughter was