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As an Indian, never realized that these words from 'Indian English' are
outdated in other parts of the world. Could you confirm if these are actually
not used elsewhere? (self.linguistics)
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
So I was going through this link. While I know that 'do the needful' and
'revert back' are wrong usages even though it's common here
Do the needful - is it incorrect usage? I mean, really?
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
So I was going through this link. While I know that 'do the needful' and
'revert back' are wrong usages even though it's common here, I was surprised
that a lot of other words are considered antiquated too. Could you 'do the
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
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As an Indian, never realized that these words from 'Indian English' are
outdated in other parts of the world. Could you
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
So I was going through this link. While I know that 'do the needful' and
'revert back' are wrong usages even though it's common here, I was surprised
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
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As an Indian, never realized that these words from 'Indian English' are
outdated in other parts of the world. Could you
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
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I believe Americans use pants quite often. In India and the US, pants mean
trousers, while in the UK, pants mean pants, as in underpants.
I hear knickers in the UK for underpants
C
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote:
I hear knickers in the UK for underpants
Knickers are used, but mostly its pants. Or perhaps that's a West
Country/Bristolian usage.
C
On Friday 13 Jul 2012 7:12:33 pm Eugen Leitl wrote:
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Big deal. Ever since Macaulay made the learning of English compulsory for the
natives of India who were up until then studying useless
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:00 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 13 Jul 2012 7:12:33 pm Eugen Leitl wrote:
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Big deal. Ever since Macaulay made the learning of English compulsory
It was. That was just Shiv in mid-flow demonstrating that he DOESN'T squirm. He
tends to get carried away proving his balance and refusal to be carried away.
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:00 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com
that sounds...recursive. must be hard for him ;-)
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
It was. That was just Shiv in mid-flow demonstrating that he DOESN'T
squirm. He tends to get carried away proving his balance and refusal to be
carried away.
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I can't bear the burden.
This really belongs to Ram and functional equivlents.
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote:
that sounds...recursive. must be hard for him ;-)
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
It
On 13 Jul 2012, at 19:44, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
My own additions to the list:
in the family way - To be pregnant
Issue: referring to children
Good name: As in what's your good name?
Mr./ Mrs. as substitutes for husband/wife
Prepone
Channelise
Ingrid
On Friday 13 Jul 2012 7:12:33 pm Eugen Leitl wrote:
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zed_that_these_words_from/
Incidentally.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/gurgaons-of-the-mind/973709/0
Gurgaons of the Mind
In a small way, this episode highlights
On Friday 13 Jul 2012 9:34:32 pm Thaths wrote:
Ummm. I thought the language of the Moghul court was Persian
You haven't been reading history have you? Naughty naughty.
The court language and the language of the courtesans too perhaps was never
the language of education. It was madrassas
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:30 PM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 13 Jul 2012 7:12:33 pm Eugen Leitl wrote:
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Big deal. Ever since Macaulay made the learning of English compulsory for
Sure but language also has aesthetic effect. There's a tone to words, quite
separate from the meaning of the words, that enhances the meaning because of
the intonation.
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Nikhil Mehra nikhil.mehra...@gmail.comwrote:
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Sure but language also has aesthetic effect. There's a tone to words,
quite separate from the meaning of the words, that enhances the meaning
because of the intonation.
A rose is a r0s3 is a r0z?
Thaths
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Nikhil Mehra
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Sure but language also has aesthetic effect. There's a tone to words, quite
separate from the meaning of the words, that enhances the meaning because of
the intonation.
Oh but we as humans derive meaning from
A roz is. But im not talking about the written word. SMS word contractions
often lead to grammatic contractions or adjustments that just dont have the
same effect.
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Possibly. But the entry of informal contractions in formal situations causes
loss of effect, i feel.
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Nikhil Mehra
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Possibly. But the entry of informal contractions in formal situations causes
loss of effect, i feel.
Strangely I've gotten involved in corp life recently (consulting
contract) and it seems like formal
No. Shiv is right. Mainstream (and, for Muslims, compulsory) education was in
madrasahs, and started with Arabic. It was not exclusively Arabic, and study of
Persian was taken up when the course of study defined demanded it.
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Thaths
Persian was not only the court of language but the language of administration
as well, until 1832, when English replaced it.
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
No. Shiv is right. Mainstream (and, for Muslims, compulsory) education was in
Oh no. Kipling had just as thorough a knowledge of english, and was fluent
enough to write urdu puns into his dialogue
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Of course it's not true! Indians spoke English to the 'manor' born, with no
slips or stumbles! Anybody who denies that is a lackey of the Marxist hordes
ruling Indian history - and economics, and anthropology, and sociology and that
whole pack of nonsense outside the good ole professions - and
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
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Oh no. Kipling had just as thorough a knowledge of english, and was fluent
enough to write urdu puns into his dialogue
Yes, but he was no believer of race equality, he was a believer in the
Empire first and
ha. with kipling, you need to scratch under the surface a bit to get at his
love for india, which was kind of over and above that veneer of jingoism and
contempt. to be very fair he had much the same contempt for various ugly
brit stereotypes
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On 14-Jul-2012, at 6:19, Srini
Kipling is Gandhi's contemporary, funny how they came to rather
different conclusions about the fate of the races.
Not an imperialist you say?
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
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ha. with kipling, you need to scratch under the surface a bit to get
I didn't argue that
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Kipling is
On Friday 13 Jul 2012 10:56:58 pm Thaths wrote:
Sanskrit and Arabic might have been studied (by a minority who could afford
education) for liturgical purposes. But weren't the language of the bazaars
the likes of Urdu, Hindustani, Bhojpuri, Awadhi, etc.?
Oh absolutely. But there was a system
On Saturday 14 Jul 2012 6:38:41 am Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
Kipling is Gandhi's contemporary, funny how they came to rather
different conclusions about the fate of the races.
Not an imperialist you say?
LOL. Kipling was fine as long as the native was a Gunga Din. A darkie like
Uncle Tom
The exception to Shiv's colourfully phrased but authentic description was the
Punjab' which had an astonishingly modern system that was uprooted by the
British. The consequence is Banta and Santa jokes.
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 9:04 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 13
On 13 July 2012 21:47, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
I can't bear the burden.
This really belongs to Ram and functional equivlents.
You're on your own.
I tend to squirm most often at things I say, rather than things others
say. So I'm a recursed Maculayite?
Udhay, how about that for
On Friday 13 Jul 2012 10:39:05 pm Biju Chacko wrote:
Why are our usages any more incorrect than any other regionalisms? Is
it because our faces are browner?
Biju you have touched a nerve that would cause the intense anger of cognitive
dissonance and denial to come pouring out of various places
On 14 July 2012 03:09, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
Persian was not only the court of language but the language of
Silver surfer moment?
Ram
There you go, despising your fellow Indian, just because you've done your bit
impressing furriners.
You've just proved You Know Who right.
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