Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Malcolm
Remember that Spanish guy with the long pointy stick, rode a donkey, used to attack windmills? Well sometimes that's all you can do. Maybe you didn't get the point of that story, too? On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 23:20 -0400, Bruce Anderson wrote: So all you did was steal the turkey from the winner

Re: CSMurder...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 4/24/09, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Thanks so much for mentioning that book and reminding me of it. I read it umpteen years ago and LOVED it, and have just ordered a used copy, as it is apparently out of print. sol Yes it's one of my 'keepers'. There's an interview with Donald

Re: CSGood grief people, stop the henpecking over turkeys and off topics

2009-04-25 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 4/25/09, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote: First we had all the arguments on the off topic list, have they now moved on the main list?? Get a grip.. it's great to be childishly happy as an adult, it's not ok to behave childishly. For the funniest temper tantrum ever

RE: CSGood grief people, stop the henpecking over turkeys and off topics

2009-04-25 Thread Hanneke nav
Rofl... Thanks Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:03:53 +0100 Subject: Re: CSGood grief people, stop the henpecking over turkeys and off topics From: kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com On 4/25/09, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote: First we had all the arguments on

Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

2009-04-25 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 4/24/09, Sam L. one...@gmail.com wrote: I just came across this today. The Mexican swine flu outbreak of 2009 In April 2009, nearly 1,000 cases of H1N1 swine flu were detected in Mexico causing more than 60 deaths[15]#120da312296cd18c_120da048d1c130b5_cite_note-14 . More on it in

Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

2009-04-25 Thread Smitty
The Mexican swine flu outbreak of 2009 Our labs are busy again. . . . Why are they picking on the Mexicans ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:

Re: CSRe: killing organic odors with EIS

2009-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Vinegar. A friend **eliminated** bad mouse pee odor from my oven by evaporating a bowl of vinegar in it. Enor Mouse the Stove Dweller, as cute as he was, had some bad habits. His favorite food was peas, but he wouldn't pee carrot juice. ode At 06:02 AM 4/24/2009 -0700, you

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote
A wild turkey doesn't get fed, lives in fear of predators all it's life, has no health care or good shelter and never dies of old age anyhow. A turkey is one step over worms and bugs in the food chain cycle, just as modern [Farm Animal] people are food for worms and bugs. That isn't how

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Gladys -- look at it this way -- turkey is GOOD for you -- so it absolutely has to do with Health!!  For gods sakes -- lighten up! (smile)  MA From: gwms...@optonline.net gwms...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:44:26 PM

Re: CSPersonal emails

2009-04-25 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Interesting -- it happened to me too in a response to one of Judy's posts.  Hmm -- maybe it has more to do with the individual's server than with Eskimo???  Any rate -- I believe you Ruth.  MA From: Ruth Bertella berte...@lfdcbham.com To:

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote
## The same can be said about most human farm animals...while *some* turn predator. Lucifers Hammer [Larry Niven / Jerry Pournell ] A heck of a good read on human nature in hard times. Ode My messages are obviously coming in out of sequence :-( I've just got this one. the trouble

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote
A forked stick and a rock or a piece of bark fiber [string] works pretty good for the little ones. I suggest you try farming veggies with fangs and claws. A garden takes habitat away from the wild, or you don't get to eat the veggies you planted. One way or the other, a niche is carved and

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Ode Coyote
Indi unsubbed last I heard..can't stand the heat of uncontrolled reason unspun. ode At 12:44 PM 4/24/2009 -0400, you wrote: WOO,HOO A REAL FOOD FIGHT!!! BTW, you DO know about the silver Off-Topic list that you should be using? Chuck

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread bertella
LMAO - maybe a good reason for me to re-sub!!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to:

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
Couldn't stand the poli crackpots, more like. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:21:43AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: Indi unsubbed last I heard..can't stand the heat of uncontrolled reason unspun. ode At 12:44 PM 4/24/2009 -0400, you wrote: WOO,HOO A REAL FOOD FIGHT!!! BTW, you DO know

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread sms
Debi, Do you cook it all night covered or uncovered? S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Debi Date: 4/23/2009 2:37:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSturkey turning...OT I know that Jennie-O turkeys come with this attached. I always wondered why would you need to turn a

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Hanneke
hmmm since one can only be subscribed on the off topic list if one subscribes to the silver list, you will have the same poli crackpots here. Keep going and you will find out. Hanneke At 12:52 AM 26/04/2009, you wrote: Couldn't stand the poli crackpots, more like. On Sat, Apr 25,

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Gayla Roberts
Turkey's are grazers, not much chance he'd have starved in that mostly wooded area. Indi BTW turkeys are not grazers, they are omnivores. Look at the shape of their beaks. They eat bugs and dead animals and will even eat the butt out of another turkey when it bleeds from pulling its tail

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
Oh, I already know that. Just here politics are OT, so they have to behave mostly. :) BYW, there is no technical barrier of which I am aware that would stop anyone subscribing to the OT list and not this list. On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 01:21:29AM +0930, Hanneke wrote: hmmm since one can only

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
This thread has already been beaten into the ground, and I have nothing more to say about it. Besides, you just proved you weren't *following* the thread anyway, since that was not at all my last word on the matter. How the heck can I communicate properly with someone who comes at the end of a

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
Aren't humans made of meat then? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dan Nave Date: 24/04/2009 21:41:15 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSturkey turning...OT If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Dan faint_grain.jpg

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
What? A caring person who tries to help creatures who are usually cruelly abused? Sounds rather a nice person to me. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ruth Bertella Date: 24/04/2009 21:04:04 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT I don't know where Indi is

CSvets beware

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
If you must go to the VA hospital, be sure to pack your CS! http://tinyurl.com/cb3p2u -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
Ask any tiger... They have more objectivity on the matter than most of us. :) On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 05:37:20PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: Aren't humans made of meat then? Dee ---Original Message--- From: [1]Dan Nave Date: 24/04/2009 21:41:15 To:

Re: CSMurder...SF...OT

2009-04-25 Thread sol
Indeed. I started reading sci fi at about 10 or 12 years old. When I was in my 50's my mother saw a book I was currently reading and sniffed Are you still reading that ridiculous stuff? I thought you would grow out of it. Never have, never will. My only problem is over the past couple of

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Dee -- turkeys are not cruelly abused.  They are slaughtered in a fairly humane manner, just like chickens.  FWIW.  MA From: Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:40:56 AM Subject: Re: CSthe corpse

Re: CSFwd: [MDI_News] Teri - hep-C and clear with CS

2009-04-25 Thread jenny goodhealth
Just wondering anyone knows the difference in quality of CS made beteeen Silver-Gen6 and Silver-Gen 7?   Jen - --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: CSFwd: [MDI_News] Teri - hep-C and clear with CS To:

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
What, being wrenched upside down and hung on a conveyor belt, then having their heads dipped into water and electrocuted - before having them sliced off? I don't call that humane! Also before this they are kept in their thousands, crammed together with no room to move in giant sheds. Not humane

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
Thanks, Dee. I think what we've seen here is that some people simply have no tolerance for having certain assumptions challenged. I simply told a story about setting a turkey free, in a totally OT thread that had gone for days about how to prepare a turkey, and subsequently admitted to being a

Re: CSRe: root canal infection

2009-04-25 Thread jenny goodhealth
Hi, Claire,   Can you tell me more about EFT?  Sorry, I have not been able to follow all the posts.  Do you also have other medical conditions causing your root canal infection, such as lyme, etc?  Thanks.   Jen - --- On Wed, 4/22/09, cla...@jazznsamba.com cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: From:

Re: CSRe: root canal infection

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
EFT is pretty powerful stuff for healing. I'm only a beginner, but you can learn a lot more at http://www.emofree.com/ . On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:23:07AM -0700, jenny goodhealth wrote: Hi, Claire, Can you tell me more about EFT? Sorry, I have not been able to follow all the

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Dee -- you're a sweet girl -- but I suspect that you have never been in a turkey barn, or a processing line.  I have been in both.  It is done in a humane manner.  MA From: Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 25,

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
Yes, indeed. And with chickens they commonly remove the beaks and feet, so they don't peck and claw each other in a mad panic. This because they are confined in large numbers to very tight spaces. The meat industry is hellishly cruel, and anyone who imagines otherwise hasn't seriously looked

Re: CSMurder...SF...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Teri
Sol, Malcolm, You can add me to the list of Sii Fi readers. I started as a child and never quit. Teri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:

CShumane?

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
You and I must have radically divergent definitions for the word humane: http://www.veganpeace.com/animal_cruelty/turkey.htm I don't doubt there are smaller, more humane turkey farms. But that's not the source of your average grocery store turkey. -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Malcolm
Unspun: Except by you?? C'mon, Ode, POV is POV - inescapable: especially by you, an individualist of the first order. On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 09:21 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: Indi unsubbed last I heard..can't stand the heat of uncontrolled reason unspun. ode At 12:44 PM 4/24/2009

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Malcolm
Retro-active prediction, anyone? On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 01:21 +0930, Hanneke wrote: hmmm since one can only be subscribed on the off topic list if one subscribes to the silver list, you will have the same poli crackpots here. Keep going and you will find out. Hanneke At 12:52 AM

Re: CSvets beware

2009-04-25 Thread Malcolm
Been there, done that; still waiting for the Tee shirt . . . . On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 12:47 -0400, Indi wrote: If you must go to the VA hospital, be sure to pack your CS! http://tinyurl.com/cb3p2u -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for

Re: CSMurder...SF...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Malcolm
Amen to that! On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 10:58 -0600, sol wrote: Indeed. I started reading sci fi at about 10 or 12 years old. When I was in my 50's my mother saw a book I was currently reading and sniffed Are you still reading that ridiculous stuff? I thought you would grow out of it. Never

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On 4/25/09, Indi indi.sha...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, indeed. And with chickens they commonly remove the beaks and feet, so they don't peck and claw each other in a mad panic. This because they are confined in large numbers to very tight spaces. I agree - it's totally horrendous. That's why I

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Hanneke
You might not be aware of it.. my suggestion is: unsub from the silverlist, then try and subscribe to the off topic list. It's a technicality that is organised within Eskimo. Anyhow, knowing you would want the last word here too...nothing seems to have changed, I'm leaving it at this. At

Re: CSFwd: [MDI_News] Teri - hep-C and clear with CS

2009-04-25 Thread Malcolm
I think it's a matter of quantity; the SG 7 makes more of the same. On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 10:13 -0700, jenny goodhealth wrote: Just wondering anyone knows the difference in quality of CS made beteeen Silver-Gen6 and Silver-Gen 7? Jen - --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Clayton Family

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
I totally respect that, Kirsteen. It shows you're a thinking and conscientious person. I don't believe all people who consume animal flesh are evil, though I'm sure some people have jumped to that conclusion. I just believe the mainstream commercial meat industry is evil. For a given value of

Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu

2009-04-25 Thread nupa_n...@hotmail.com
I took CS and I never got the Bird Flu at all. Really it never touched my family... --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date:

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Indi -- that is total BS and proves your ignorance.  It so happens that my husband and I built two broiler houses and raised chickens commercially for 13 years.  Beaks and feet were never removed -- if they were, then the birds would not be able to get to the feed and water that they need to

CSebook Howtobeattheflu

2009-04-25 Thread nupa_n...@hotmail.com
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote: From: Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net Subject: Re: CSReported cases of Swine Flu To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 4:01 AM http://snardfarker.ning.com/group/flu A web forum with updates as soon as new

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
That may be you MA but this is not the large majority of commercial enterprises. When Bernard Mathews farms over here in the UK were found to contain the so-called bird 'flu, it showed on the television news, *thousands* of birds spilling out of these huge barns. There couldn't have been an inch

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I love the 'girl' bit MA lol and you are right, I haven't. But I belong to Compassion in World Farming and see enough literature to know that I am - unfortunately - right! As I said, maybe not you but definitely most big commercial companies. dee ---Original Message--- From:

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
Forgive me, but I'm finding your combative tone a bit inappropriate. If you take the time to read everything I said, then you would realize that what I said applies to the *average* production facility from which *most* bird corpses are bought. It is not debateable. Can we *please* move on now?

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
I think you are right there Indi, but then we need a bit of crazy to keep us sane, don't we? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Indi Date: 25/04/2009 18:22:30 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT Thanks, Dee. I think what we've seen here is that some people

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
I think that must be so, or at least it fits my interpretation of the evidence so far. :) -- indi On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:07:18PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: I think you are right there Indi, but then we need a bit of crazy to keep us sane, don't we? Dee ---Original

Re: CSturkey turning...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
[last word]- OK -- indi I just didn't want to disappoint you. ;) On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 04:07:45AM +0930, Hanneke wrote: You might not be aware of it.. my suggestion is: unsub from the silverlist, then try and subscribe to the off topic list. It's a technicality that is

CSOT turkey cooking

2009-04-25 Thread Debi
Yes I put it on 400 degrees to brown then cover it with foil, double foil on the wing tips, then go down to 200 for the night. The covering is mainly for the dressing, I either make the dressing dry and add water once or twice or just let the turkey juices keep it moist. Sorry that wasn't clear

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Gayla Roberts
I agree that the meat industry can be horribly cruel at times. But think of the fruit and vegetable industry. Plants are forced to grow with artificial nutrients, picked unripe, shipped across many countries, then gassed to bring ripe color to their still-hard flesh. Most unhealthy! Many

Re: CSthe corpse thread...OT

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
I absolutely agree with you on that. Here in sunny Lithia Springs, GA, we're working hard on our organic farming methods. And here's a little something to surprise those of you who think all PETA members are the same -- I keep honey bees, and drink cow's milk too. But I digress... Now of

Re: CSOT turkey cooking

2009-04-25 Thread Indi
You didn't cause it Debi, and neither did I. As a vegetarian for three decades now, I have noticed many times that even the mildest mention of vegetarianism and animal rights is enough to make some people read or hear things I never said, and start foaming at the mouth. I guess some people are

Re: CSFwd: [MDI_News] Teri - hep-C and clear with CS

2009-04-25 Thread Bob Banever
Jen, Yes. The answer is none. They both produce identical ionic/colloidal silver. The Silvergen 7 produces 5 gallons at a time, that is the only difference. Bob - Original Message - From: jenny goodhealth To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009

CSTeri - hep-C and clear with CS

2009-04-25 Thread sms
I would consider getting a SilverGen 7 as I love my SilverGen 6 so much. But I have one question. What do you do with that many gallons of CS? Just curious? Sash ---Original Message--- From: Bob Banever Date: 4/25/2009 4:14:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFwd: