Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-12 Thread MARIANO DELISE
CS will help kill the opportunistic infections. You should drink some everyday. - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Several people somewhat

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-11 Thread sol
Several people somewhat misread my question. Oh, well. I understand what celiac is and that it is genetic, and that celiacs cannot ingest gluten in any form. My question was whether CS might not help any concurrent infections in the intestines? Because of the damage celiac disease causes, it

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-10 Thread Jack Dayton
11/8/02 1:26 AM C Creel Some articles: -- Human choriogonadotropin-like material in bacteria of different species: electron microscopy and immunocytochemical studies with monoclonal and polyclonal antibodies. Acevedo HF, Pardo M, Campbell-Acevedo E, Domingue GJ. J Gen Microbiol. 1987

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-10 Thread Jack Dayton
11/8/02 1:08 PM Marshall Dudley I cannot find ad-hominen or ad hominem in the dictionary. Are these spellings right? Marshall Hi Marshall, my American Heritage reveals the following for ad hominem: ad hom€i€nem (hÄm2ú-nRm1, -núm) adj. 1. Appealing to personal

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-10 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I find it distasteful that well-informed comments are dismissed as speculation -- at a certain point speculation becomes hypothesis, though not all of us have opportunity to follow through with our hypotheses -- and I also find it irritating, patronizing, and wrongheaded for a list member

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-10 Thread jrowland
Someone wrote: But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in America. Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or from the bread allergy. Some news for crust-eaters: http://materials.chemweb.com/alchem/articles/1035208552794.html 8 November 2002 Eating bread

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-10 Thread C Creel
Jonathan wrote: I find it distasteful that well-informed comments are dismissed as speculation -- at a certain point speculation becomes hypothesis, though not all of us have opportunity to follow through with our hypotheses -- and I also find it irritating, patronizing, and wrongheaded for a

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread Duncan Crow
there. - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV or enemas might

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread f.capezzuto
. - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Plenty of evidence exists for the use of antioxidants to reduce

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Could it be they are all the same mycoplasma invading different cells? - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Cases of MS also are also linked

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread MARIANO DELISE
What caused the bread allergy i n the first place? - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I totally agree with a lot of your

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread MARIANO DELISE
It is my opinion, if I had waited for all these informed responses, I would not be walking today, and probably not taking CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:49 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread Robb Allen
@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:42 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? It is my opinion, if I had waited for all these informed responses, I would not be walking today, and probably not taking CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread MARIANO DELISE
HELP - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV or enemas might be of help

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
4:49 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Jonathan, You said: Please keep on posting and ignore the school-marmish comments you might receive. No one has time to check every citation, If being thorough is school-marmish in your book, I'll take the label you

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread C Creel
Dear Robb, You said: I think Nancy does indeed have strong evidencethe problem is.Doctors use diagnosis' like MS..or Lupusor similar names when they don't really know for what is wrongRobb ** I'm quite pleased to hear Nancy's story ofrecovery, but

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread f.capezzuto
into the light.:) - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? It would certainly not hurt anything to give it a try..I would be very

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread f.capezzuto
of mycoplasma. But for the babies with the genetic defect, it was too late. - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Could it be they are all the same mycoplasma

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-09 Thread f.capezzuto
a virus can cause some cases. But current research says that most cases are caused by genetics. - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-08 Thread sol
I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV or enemas might be of help. I don't have it but a longtime aquaintance of mine recently died while waiting for a liver transpant. The underlying cause of her liver failure was celiac disease, which had gone

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Malcolm Stebbins wrote:! Ad-hominen sucks and killing the messenger is NOT the sport of kings. At 02:49 AM 11/8/02 -0800, you wrote: Jonathan, You said: Please keep on posting and ignore the school-marmish comments you might ad hominem attacks. I cannot find ad-hominen or ad

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-08 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
How about this: Please, both of you, keep on posting! You have both offered information from different experiences and points of view. You disagree: Wonderful! Ad-hominen sucks and killing the messenger is NOT the sport of kings. At 02:49 AM 11/8/02 -0800, you wrote: Jonathan, You said:

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-08 Thread George
On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:08:00 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote: I cannot find ad-hominen or ad hominem in the dictionary. Are these spellings right? Marshall Translated from Latin to English, Ad Hominem means against the man or against the person. An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-08 Thread CKing001
On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:08:00 -0500, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: I cannot find ad-hominen or ad hominem in the dictionary. Are these spellings right? Marshall Argumentum ad Hominem Argumentum ad Hominem. Translation: ... Exposition: A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-08 Thread f.capezzuto
. Silver will help you there. - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-08 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Hi Marshall; I believe the spelling 'ad hominem' is right; the phrase is latin for 'to the man', and is used to describe the rhetorical technique of attacking the motive, character, actions or appearance of your opponent in an argument, rather than addressing the subject of the argument

RE: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Dear Nancy, You said: Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm it's quite an eye opener. **Have you read the articles from the citations? I've read twelve of them. They don't support what this page

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
I think this is the same mistake that the medical community makes with their association of HIV with AIDS. Cofactors can sometimes confuse cause and action. With AIDS it is life threatening, since from what I can tell high HIV counts are caused by the suppressed immune system letting this virus

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread Paul Ladendorf
C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com wrote: This type of writing is misleading. It causes people to draw incorrect conclusions. I totally agree. I think it would be narrow-minded to consider all of those diseases as caused by one bacteria, virus, whatever. For example, MS and other neurological

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Hi Catherine; the whole subject area of cell wall deficient forms is confusing - at least to me. I've just started reading Dr. Mattman's book, don't know if the quote Nancy pointed you to is from the book or someone's precis. What does seem clear is that most detection methodologies are

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread f.capezzuto
@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com wrote: This type of writing is misleading. It causes people to draw incorrect conclusions. I totally agree. I think it would be narrow

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread MARIANO DELISE
, but that is the only thing my simple uneducated mind can understand. Nancy Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Dear Nancy, You said: Check out mycoplasmas

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread MARIANO DELISE
anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I think this is the same mistake that the medical community makes with their association of HIV with AIDS. Cofactors can sometimes confuse cause and action. With AIDS it is life threatening, since from what I can tell high HIV counts are caused

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com wrote: This type of writing is misleading. It causes people to draw incorrect

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread f.capezzuto
: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? All I can tell you is mycoplasma is a very new word even to doctors. Many have not even heard of it yet. I have two people with fibrmyalgia, two with chroans, two with lupus, one with chronic fatigue syndrom, eleven with MS, one with interstitial

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
understand. Nancy Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Dear Nancy, You said: Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at www.rain

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread C Creel
Dear Malcolm, You said: the whole subject area of cell wall deficient forms is confusing - at least to me. I've just started reading Dr. Mattman's book, don't know if the quote Nancy pointed you to is from the book or someone's precis. What does seem clear is that most detection

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-07 Thread C Creel
Jonathan, You said: Please keep on posting and ignore the school-marmish comments you might receive. No one has time to check every citation, If being thorough is school-marmish in your book, I'll take the label you intended as an insult and wear it proudly. But, I find it more than a

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-06 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm it's quite an eye opener. Nancy - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-05 Thread Stephen Summers
: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Very good point. Dr. Brown in 1988 (and before) was putting a high percentage of cases of JRA in remission with ABX treatment. His

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-05 Thread CKing001
On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:12:12 +0200, Stephen Summers surec...@netactive.co.za wrote: As a homeopath, he stresses that to effect any cure, one first has to get the pH level of the body correct i.e 7.5. Which Ph? Blood, urine, saliva? They're all different.

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-05 Thread MARIANO DELISE
sense Nancy - Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? There is a theory that the brain requires a lot of magnesium for proper

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-05 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? There is a theory that the brain requires a lot of magnesium for proper functioning, and that many Alzheimer's victims are very deficient in magnesium. In some instances, aluminum can be used

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-05 Thread C Creel
Dear Nancy, You said: FYI Alzheimer's disease is an auto immune disease caused by micoplasma. I know for a fact that CS helps MS, Lupus, Croans, fibromyalgia and many otherauto immune diseases caused by micoplasma. I think you are jumping the gun with this statement. For

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-04 Thread Josephvdm
You might consider applying urine therapy. Go to GOOGLE and click on urine therapy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: How does smoke attract radon that's not already in the air? And if it's already in the air, how does one not breath it anyway? There is radon in the air. Unfortunately in East Tennessee where I live, there can be quite a bit of it from the traces of radium in the

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-04 Thread Ode Coyote
How does smoke attract radon that's not already in the air? And if it's already in the air, how does one not breath it anyway? Some plants do assimilate heavy metals as they grow and tobacco is one, or so I hear. Radon and other radioactive elements such as found in granite are not uncommon

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-04 Thread Jannette McKoy-Abel
There is a theory that the brain requires a lot of magnesium for proper functioning, and that many Alzheimer's victims are very deficient in magnesium. In some instances, aluminum can be used as a substitute for magnesium, so the magnesium deprived brain draws the aluminum from the various

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-04 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I love English tea, and learned from my supplier that tea plants pull in a lot of aluminum from the soil. I was curious about this apropos aluminum and Alzheimer's disease. I still drink my tea, understanding that aluminum (aluminium to British types) is everywhere. Whether it gets into the

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
I agree that Po210 would cause cancer. I would like to see more research referenced that links the Po210 to calcium phosphate fertilizer. It is known that radon is attracted to cigarette smoke, so a person in a smoke filled room will end up getting exposed to about 100 times as much radon as if

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-02 Thread f.capezzuto
Thanks, I will pass this info on to her. :) - Original Message - From: jrowl...@nctimes.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 12:44 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? f.capezzuto writes: My sister got a Lupus like disease from

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-01 Thread Jannette McKoy-Abel
-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:55 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
f.capezzuto wrote: Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload.- Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease.- Reactions to drugs.- Genetic metabolic disorder.-

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-01 Thread f.capezzuto
: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? f.capezzuto wrote: Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-01 Thread f.capezzuto
- Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:06 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Frank, I would not call the use of CS as a Cure, but rather a control of Lupus. In fact

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-01 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Lupus drink my CS. After several months, they have no longer had any attacks. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? f.capezzuto wrote

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-01 Thread f.capezzuto
), they will show all of the people who were put into remission from RA with long term ABX treatment. Dr Brown stated a 90 percent success rate for RA sufferers. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Lupus

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-01 Thread jrowland
f.capezzuto writes: My sister got a Lupus like disease from taking a stop smoking drug. She got worse till...she stopped taking it...two weeks to fully recover... Now she is back to smoking, and healthy. ;) Engaging Atlantis Rising Magazine (11-12/02 Issue #36; article not yet online)

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-10-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
My mother tried for a short term and did not notice any improvement. However I do think it might be good as a preventative, even if not a cure. Marshall Steve Reniger wrote: Hello! Has anyone had success with CS and Lupus? Thanks!Steve Reniger

Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-10-31 Thread f.capezzuto
01, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Hello! Has anyone had success with CS and Lupus? Thanks! Steve Reniger

CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-10-31 Thread Steve Reniger
Hello! Has anyone had success with CS and Lupus? Thanks! Steve Reniger