:
CS has been reported by others to not be as effective on cultures grown on
agar as in broth.
JOH
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
See if you
, April 11, 2001 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
Mixing CS with agar will make it essentially ineffective. But it should still
be effective as a topical spray on the actual mold or bacteria growing on the
surface.
Marshall
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
CS has been
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*Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:27 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSIons vs Particles
Mixing CS with agar will make it essentially ineffective. But it
should still
be effective as a topical spray on the actual mold or bacteria
growing on the
surface.
Marshall
I believe that the article is basically correct. On the other hand
though, I do think it the ions that work best for some topical
applications, and are resonsible for stem cell reversion per Robert
Beckers work.
Marshall
Paul Ladendorf wrote:
I found the following article and wondered if some
I found the following article and wondered if some of you techies would respond
to it.
Thanks,
Paul
Basically, there are two silver components in colloidal silver products which
give them their antibiotic properties, silver particles and silver ions.
Silver ions are silver atoms which have
Regarding the following, which I believe is from the MesoSilver site, I
have asked one list member responsible for that site for postings of the
research by Dr. Meade, or at least references to the publications, but
have not gotten a reply yet, I think.
It would be very helpful to be able
:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
In a message dated 9/28/2001 4:11:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
Roger,
We're not discussing the solubility issue you raised. My argument is
really confined to the 'ionic vs
Ode Coyote wrote:
I've heard that [13 PPM limit for ionic silver] but can't recall where
it came from.
Dr. Maass wrote a technical brief titled Solubility Products Involving Silver
Compounds which mentions the theoretical 13.3 ppm limit in PURE WATER. It
goes up from their as the
If an Ion-Selective Electrode is used for the PPM measurement, should that
not correlate with Dr. Maass's Technical Brief?
- Original Message -
From: Frank Key fr...@strsoft.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
Ode
Arnold Beland wrote:
If an Ion-Selective Electrode is used for the PPM measurement, should that
not correlate with Dr. Maass's Technical Brief?
No. An ISE will respond to the presence of silver ions (cations) regardless of
what anion is in the solution that is countering its ionic charge. As
I've heard that [13 PPM limit for ionic silver] but can't recall where it came from.
Practically speaking, I can make 25 PPM ionic/particulate mix with LVDC but the PPM drops back a few points in storage over night and the TE gains in intensity.
I have not been able to make a totally ionic sol
In a message dated 9/29/2001 1:16:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
coy...@alltel.net writes:
Subj:Re: CSIons vs Particles
Date:9/29/2001 1:16:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:coy...@alltel.net (Ode Coyote)
Reply-to: A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com
Roger,
I can consistantly make over 15 ppm and have some at 27 ppm. Its just a time
factor.
I guess that I need to run one for 12 or more ours just to see what I get.
Ole Bob
As a newcomer to the less-than-simple CS scene, I have been intrigued over the
recent debating involving Messrs Quinto, Key, and Anderson - ions or particles
- which are best in vivo? Perhaps there is another aspect that might alter the
equation (including the solubility product equations Roger
:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSIons vs Particles
As a newcomer to the less-than-simple CS scene, I have been intrigued over
the recent debating involving Messrs Quinto, Key, and Anderson - ions or
particles - which are best in vivo? Perhaps there is another aspect that
might
In a message dated 9/28/2001 10:20:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
The solubility issue is another matter. I meant to repond to Roger's post
with the following: we've seen and worked with products from
concentrations of 3ppm on the low side to 3,200ppm at
: there is 'ionic'
and there is 'ionic'. Best,
Stephen
-Original Message-
From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
In a message dated 9/28/2001 10:20:27 AM Eastern Daylight
In a message dated 9/28/2001 10:50:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
Thanks, Roger
guess I did. But it is not so. We've got formulations based on our
std 10ppm product of 23ppm 34ppm and higher -- all as might be
characterized as ionic. The truth is
Subject: CSIons vs Particles
As a newcomer to the less-than-simple CS scene, I have been intrigued over
the recent debating involving Messrs Quinto, Key, and Anderson - ions or
particles - which are best in vivo? Perhaps there is another aspect that might
alter the equation (including
In a message dated 9/28/2001 12:44:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
Subj:RE: CSIons vs Particles
Date:9/28/2001 12:44:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com (Stephen Quinto)
Reply-to: A
HREF=mailto:squi...@natural-immunogenics.com
-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
In a message dated 9/28/2001 12:44:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
Subj:RE: CSIons vs Particles
Date:9/28/2001 12:44:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com (Stephen Quinto
In a message dated 9/28/2001 2:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
Roger,
we are already talking about very dilute systems. 10ppm is one part per
100,000. So ionic impurities take on greater proportionate values..
Stephen
Stephen: No, the more dilute
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Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
In a message dated 9/28/2001 2:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
Roger,
we are already talking about very dilute systems. 10ppm is one part per
100,000. So ionic impurities take on greater
Roger Stephen,
There is a very great difference between making HVAC ARC with and without the
CO2 blanket.
When using the CO2 blanket the conductivity is generally around 100 tp 300
uS/cc and the NO3 is 2 to 4 PPM.
Without the CO2 the conductivity hits 850+ uS/cc and the NO3 will have an
Ole Bob,
That's a pretty good analysis. Lots of possible ionic complexes in the
formulations!
Stephen
-Original Message-
From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 4:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
In a message dated 9/28/2001 4:11:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
squi...@silver.nxlkhost.com writes:
Roger,
We're not discussing the solubility issue you raised. My argument is
really confined to the 'ionic vs the ionic'
These are two different subjects.
Stephen
Stephen: Perhaps you
You're getting your fish and flesh confused [):~)
Judith.
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
Not my salmon, crab and lobster!
Marshall
Judith Thamm
Not my salmon, crab and lobster!
Marshall
Judith Thamm wrote:
Eat less red meat!
Judith.
- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: Silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 9:44 PM
Subject: CSIons vs Particles
Hi Ya'all
Bob wrote:
Since making the cloudy stuff ala Frank Key and the originator Bill
Fernald, I keep some in the bathroom.
The photo I posted of a cloudy silver colloid was a solution that contains 5
ppm of particles with no ionic. It was produced by a proprietary process at the
Colloidal
Eat less red meat!
Judith.
- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: Silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 9:44 PM
Subject: CSIons vs Particles
Hi Ya'all,
More pot stirring!!!
Just some more confusion to add to the sum of our
Tracy,
Your CS is mostly ionic, as my report to you detailed ;-)
Ivan.
- Original Message -
From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
That doesn't bear thinking about grin. I have used CS
underwater arc process is intended for gold. I have not done much with
copper or zinc, but it may be suitable for them.
Regards,
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSIons vs
Hi Ya'all,
More pot stirring!!!
Just some more confusion to add to the sum of our knowledge.
Sometimes in the morning if my underarm odor is too offensive I use some
Ionic CS before the aluminum free deodorant stick.
Since making the cloudy stuff ala Frank Key and the originator Bill
Fernald,
Hello Robert,
Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 8:14:08 AM, you wrote:
RLB Hi Ya'all,
RLB More pot stirring!!!
RLB Just some more confusion to add to the sum of our knowledge.
RLB Sometimes in the morning if my underarm odor is too offensive I use some
RLB Ionic CS before the aluminum free
In a message dated 4/11/01 7:18:30 AM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes:
Subj: CSIons vs Particles
Date: 4/11/01 7:18:30 AM EST
From: bober...@swbell.net (Robert L. Berger)
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To:silver-list@eskimo.com (Silver-list)
Hi Ya'all,
More pot stirring
See if you can get some agar agar and set up some to grow bacteria
colonies. It would be interesting to see the effect of spraying each on
colonies.
Marshall
Robert L. Berger wrote:
Hi Ya'all,
More pot stirring!!!
Just some more confusion to add to the sum of our knowledge.
Sometimes
CS has been reported by others to not be as effective on cultures grown on
agar as in broth.
JOH
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
See if you can get
as in broth.
JOH
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
See if you can get some agar agar and set up some to grow bacteria
colonies. It would be interesting
April 2001 00:14
Subject: CSIons vs Particles
Hi Ya'all,
More pot stirring!!!
Just some more confusion to add to the sum of our knowledge.
Sometimes in the morning if my underarm odor is too offensive I use some
Ionic CS before the aluminum free deodorant stick.
Since making the cloudy
...@execonn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles
Mixing CS with agar will make it essentially ineffective. But it should
still
be effective as a topical spray on the actual mold or bacteria growing on
the
surface.
Marshall
James Osbourne
Tracey, join the crowd!!!
Most CS is basically ionic. It is as B--ch to make particle CS. I wonder if it
is worth the effort.
I have made four runs and only one shows the turpidity or cloudiness required.
Ole Bob
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