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Subject: Ole Bob and HVAC, was Re: CSWhich layer of skin for
silver deposit?
At 06:05 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Hello Dick,
It seems that this is an area that has been looked
batches between weighing, you may get an agerage.
The may be opptimistic, but could give a ballpark esimation.
Tom
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Subject: Ole Bob and HVAC, was Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
At 06:05 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Hello Dick,
It seems that this is an area that has been looked at before and there are
some theories on the quality of EIS produced at high voltages.
Unfortunately, extensive
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Subject: Ole Bob and HVAC, was Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver
deposit?
At 06:05 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Hello Dick,
It seems that this is an area that has been looked
## You can make EIS well beyond 20 PPM, however, having it look like
something you'd let your dog drink is another matter.
I've found that around 30 us [or PPM ionic] is about the limit, but Ionic
isn't all that there is and it can take a fair a amount of time for ions to
crystallize out of
: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Thus part I don't understand. The ionic portion of EIS is silver oxide
and silver hydroxide, each with a solubility of only 13 ppm, so combined
they have a solubility of 26 ppm. (Actually since
esimation.
Tom
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Doing quantitative analysis for silver compounds is really rather easy,
if you have
PM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Hi Tom,
It would be a real boon to have some sort of standard quantitative
analysis of silver content which could be done in a home lab/kitchen. a
titration method maybe? which would involve simple reagents and
glassware. I think
I've been wondering about this for quite some time, having read on this
list that ppm is really a measure of weight, not parts or
particles. I'll add a layman's question: is there any scale on
earth that could measure the difference in weight just by putting one's
EIS jar on the scale
by removing water from it.
Tom
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From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Interesting...
How does the unit uS compare with PPM?
I have two
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Marshal
I have one very small insignificant problem with that
statement (
or suggestion)about only silver nitrate does that .
Where would I have come about getting silver nitrate in my
Richard Goodwin wrote:
So Marshall and all you other experts, let me double check with you about
the high voltage arcing -- you are sure that it will produce silver nitrate?
Yes, especially if the arcing is above the water. using arcs to water
was the standard method of producing nitric
Marshal
The reducing was my post and I didn't say anything about boiling the cs,
only putting it on the coffee maker hot plate which will not boil it. It
will steam off slowly and not effect the integrity of the brew. You were
into color being caused by the size of the particle at the time and I
I am pretty sure the blanket was Argon or helium, not carbon dioxide.
Carbon dioxide would simply replace the nitric acid with carbonic acid,
and make silver carbonate instead of silver nitrate. Still not good.
But you are correct, placing an inert gas blanket around the area of the
arc
poast wrote:
Hello Dick,
Please understand that this is still in the experimental stage... but
I have had pretty good success in making normal EIS, then using heat to
concentrate it. It takes a little time and effort to do, but it seems to
work very well. I don't know how pure it is, but if
Well, actually I do believe that they are aggregating, then breaking
apart again when you dilute. You must have missed my post on a theory
as to how that happens when I posted it a month or so ago. Here it is
again:
As the water evaporates the silver oxide reaches saturation, and
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Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
In the spirit of ballparks...1 to 1 isn't that far off from 1.2 to 1
Trems SG7 samples came out as 98.6% Ionic
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr21/cpr_21.html
13.8 uS/cm
At 06:05 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Hello Dick,
It seems that this is an area that has been looked at before and there are
some theories on the quality of EIS produced at high voltages.
Unfortunately, extensive testing is cost prohibitive, so you will just have
to go with the theory.
I think I
Oh, that was FUN!
Check the archives searching on HVAC, Bob
Now those were the days...
Chuck
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On 2/22/2010
problem I have is not having the equipment to translate uS to PPM.
Tom
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Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Thus part I don't understand
to translate uS to
PPM.
Tom
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
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Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Thus part I don't understand. The ionic portion of EIS
dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
What do you think about the guy who says he makes 40 ppm in a minute or
two using a microwave oven 3600 volts?
Or something like
OK, Thanks for that Dick.
N.
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:14:49 -0800
From: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
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Evidently, yes. Which would explain the slight argyria my wife has (she took a
lot more than I did
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, February 19, 2010 10:47:54 PM
Subject: RE: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
From this can I assume you were possibly ingesting silver nitrate for a period
of time? Yes?/No?/Dunno?
N.
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:06:11 -0800
From: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin
for a
period of time? Yes?/No?/Dunno?
N.
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:06:11 -0800
From: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
So Marshall and all you other experts, let me double check with you about
the high
inaccurate...
Dick
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From: poast po...@prodigy.net
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Sent: Sat, February 20, 2010 12:44:04 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Hello Dick,
Please understand that this is still in the experimental stage... but
I have had
Thanks for this Dave, I have just sent off for this. dee
On 20 Feb 2010, at 16:17, Dave Darrin wrote:
Dick
Why not just reduce it to get it stronger?
As far as the deodorant is concerned I've never had any luck using CS for
that but there is a product that deodorises without blocking
Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Interesting...
How does the unit uS compare with PPM?
I have two meters, one of which measures PPM, and the other uS, and they
show very
Dave -- where do you get that product (Lavilin)? Thanks.
MA
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Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Dick
Why not just reduce it to get
(Lavilin)? Thanks.
MA
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Dick
Why not just reduce it to get it stronger?
As far
OK!!
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Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
I found it on eBay and bought a bunch of it but I'm getting low so will have to
search
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OK!!
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I found it on eBay and bought a bunch of it but I'm getting low so
-cooking the stuff trying to get higher ppm...?
Dick
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From: poast po...@prodigy.net
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Sent: Sat, February 20, 2010 4:17:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Hello Dick,
uS is micro siemens, and is a measure
Neville Munn wrote:
Excuse my pig ignorance, but which layer of skin is *OUR* silver
deposited, anyone know? Skin has several layers so I'm curious to
know which layer it is? Is it under the first or second, between the
third or fourth etc etc?
All articles I find relate to silver nitrate
Is not the epidermis the dead layer which is continually shed. If it
were there wouldn't it be not permanent?
Marshall
Norton, Steve wrote:
My guess is that silver will deposit in all layers of the skin but
that the coloring caused by argyria is from silver in the epidermis.
-
Good point
- Steve N
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
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Sent: Fri Feb 19 09:41:38 2010
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Is not the epidermis the dead layer which is continually shed
Marshal
I have one very small insignificant problem with that statement ( or
suggestion)about only silver nitrate does that .
Where would I have come about getting silver nitrate in my system? I have
never used High Voltage
Arc system, only 27 volts dc with polarity switching and decant into
And what about silver citrate?
From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
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Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 11:27:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Marshal
I have one very small insignificant problem
if reduced).
Marshall
Richard Goodwin wrote:
And what about silver citrate?
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for silver deposit?
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Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 6:46 AM
Good point
- Steve N
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Sent: Fri Feb 19 09:41:38 2010
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer
: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 2:17:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Silver citrate and silver nitrate have similar photographic properties,
although silver nitrate is more sensitive to light. Silver nitrate
trying to fight off a cold or
something. Does that make sense?
Dick
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
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Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 2:17:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Silver citrate and silver
davedar...@gmail.com
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Marshal
I have one very small insignificant problem with that statement ( or
suggestion)about only silver nitrate does that .
Where would
?
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Dear Dave, Marshall,
It sure can be a pain keeping things straight in this medium...
Marshall wrote:
It would have to be in the living layers, thus the dermis,
essentially where a tattoo is placed. Probably any and all
the living layers, but generally EIS does not
?
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Dave
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Marshal
Yes- I have never taken anything but properly made cs. You must not have
been following the thread so I will enlighten you. My cs was made with a
colloid
DER! How stoopid of me...Damn...! I lost my foothold there for a moment, sorry
about that, of course *OUR* silver won't do that, and I mentioned 'nitrates' as
well.
Thank You for including that, can't afford to blur that distinction with
'something else'...which is the main separator.
Dave wrote:
Even when Mike was saying to add salt to start the batch quicker I did
it the proper way with nothing added.
Oy, that was a long time ago! It took me a year or two after I started
making CS to wise up and finally start doing it the better way...
I took finding a build-up of
: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
That is a grey area. AgOH is more active chemicall, but that can
actually reduce the effectiveness when taken internally. Here's why.
AgOH will react with the HCl in the stomach producing silver chloride,
which is almost insoluble, around .8 ppm
: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
Dave wrote:
Even when Mike was saying to add salt to start the batch quicker I did
it the proper way with nothing added.
Oy, that was a long time ago! It took me a year or two after I started
making CS to wise up and finally start doing
So Marshall and all you other experts, let me double check with you about the
high voltage arcing -- you are sure that it will produce silver nitrate?
Or perhaps can it also be producing silver ions with extra oxygen? (I know,
wishful thinking).
I'm just thinking that I used whatever that
If you are using high voltage(as from a neon xfmer) and one of your
electrodes is slightly above the water (hence the arcing) , you are
producing nitric acid in your CS.
We discussed this many years ago when Ol' Bob was alive.
The answer was to provide a CO2 blanket in the space above the water
From this can I assume you were possibly ingesting silver nitrate for a period
of time? Yes?/No?/Dunno?
N.
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:06:11 -0800
From: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
So Marshall and all you
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit?
So Marshall and all you other experts, let me double check with you about
the high voltage arcing -- you are sure that it will produce silver nitrate?
Or perhaps can
My guess is that silver will deposit in all layers of the skin but that
the coloring caused by argyria is from silver in the epidermis.
- Steve N
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:33 PM
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