RE: CSSomething interesting for the chemist or physicist?

2014-09-30 Thread Neville


 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:47:51 -0400
 From: jpopel...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSSomething interesting for the chemist or physicist?
 
 I'm finding your experience very interesting, though I don't
 yet have any answers for you. I am suspecting that some
 trace of salt or other chloride contaminated your solution,
 but I don't have any explanation for the location of the
 deposit. Silver chloride is a white, insoluble substance.
 It is also very light sensitive.
 It is the active material in photographic film.
## G'day John.It is very unusual for me to have one of my batches turn milky.  
The only thing I can think of is perhaps I acquired a bad batch of DW?  I used 
to document all aspects of each batch I produced once, but I stopped doing that 
a few years ago.  However, I do recall allowing this batch, and one or two 
successive batches to brew for one hour before removal of electrodes to clean 
them.  I normally remove electrodes each and every 30 minutes regardless, but 
for these batches I didn't bother as nothing develops on the electrode for at 
least an hour so I decided to leave the electrodes for one hour.  I do notice a 
second batch is turning milky as well.  The batch in question is now taking on 
a pinkish hue, it must still be stabilising, even after one month in storage.  
I've set it aside and will make more observations over time.  Me thinks I 
should not deviate from my usual practice as I have never had this happen since 
the very very early days of my involvement with this stuff.
I do know there are several possible reasons for a dark spot to develop on the 
bottom of the brew vessel, i.e. electrodes too close to bottom, leaving 
electrodes in too long before removal, not incorporating some form of stirring 
method where larger volumes are concerned to name a few of which I am aware of. 
 But to have this dark spot appear whilst in storage, and repeated appearance 
is a new one on me?  All my solutions normally remain clear and transparent no 
matter how long it is in storage, occasionally I may get a batch taking on a 
yellowish colour, nothing I'm concerned about with that though, so long as it 
*stays* clear and transparent, and they always have.
 
   What do the letters, TE represent?  I am also not
 familiar with the units KCL uS.  I have a meter that reads
 out microsiemens per centimeter (uS/cm).
## TE=Tyndal Effect, the refraction of light on particle content.KCl is 
Potassium Chloride which I believe is one of the solutions this meter was 
calibrated in.  The HM Digital Com-100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter.
 
 I am presently experiments with silver water made with
 various electrical waveforms and am seeing solutions that
 look quite different, for the same conductivity
 measurements.  I am assuming, so far that this is indicating
 various ratios of ionic and colloidal silver, but it might
 also just be an indication of various slight contaminations.
 
 On 09/29/2014 08:38 PM, Neville wrote:

  

Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have had a Silver Puppy for 8 years or so and have the same rods and magnetic 
stirrer with no sign of them wearing out anytime soon.  it makes consistently 
good CS - I make my own distilled water so get no discolouration problems due 
to water not being good.  It does the reverse polarity thing as well and turns 
itself off when it reaches 10ppm.  You can manually turn it on again as it has 
an auto/manual switch and you can set it to make a higher ppm if you want.  Ken 
is really good when asked advice (straight to the point) and has integrity, 
which I would question with a lot of manufacturers.  I don’t think you can make 
such large batches as you can with the Silvegen, but am not sure.  This is 
another good machine according to people on the list who have one.  HTH dee


On 29 Sep 2014, at 20:05, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am interested in a new machine also as mine doesn't have a stir method and 
 seems a bit fragile. I also would like to know if any lend themselves easily 
 to using silver coins instead of silver wire. I bought two .999 percent 
 silver and hope to use them. Thanks!
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week and I 
 found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some 
 confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators 
 of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am 
 looking for opinions on which to go with.
 
 My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes but 
 if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something that 
 won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far as 
 reliability goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed and 
 can be repaired easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.  Also 
 must have some sort of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a bubbler 
 is a bad idea. I'm not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400
 
 It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have read 
 and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my 
 specifications then please let me know.
 
 The units are:
 1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit and 
 it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on how 
 long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might have 
 missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those answers.  
 Seems like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the magnetic stirrer 
 unit as I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a used lab unit up 
 somewhere.
 
 2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this 
 unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget. 
 
 3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the 
 commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like the 
 bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a 
 while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.  
 Also not sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference 
 although it sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does show 
 that it is 4 weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a supply 
 problem or just that popular.
 
 All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something else 
 pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines if 
 they have used them before or know more about their differences to make me 
 have a decision either way.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help.
 
 -Bob
 


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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Kirsteen Wright
What Dorothy said. I too have a Silver Puppy and love it. I leave it on
automatic and it's great. You can ask Ken any questions you have, either
here or on his site. He's extremely knowledgeable, down to earth, no
bullshit and no outlandish claims. I honestly can't recommend him and his
products highly enough.

Cheers
Kirsteen
On 29 Sep 2014 19:48, Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week
 and I found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some
 confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators
 of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am
 looking for opinions on which to go with.

 My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes
 but if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something
 that won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far
 as reliability goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed
 and can be repaired easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.
 Also must have some sort of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a
 bubbler is a bad idea. I'm not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400

 It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have
 read and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my
 specifications then please let me know.

 The units are:
 1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit
 and it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on
 how long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might
 have missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those
 answers.  Seems like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the
 magnetic stirrer unit as I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a
 used lab unit up somewhere.

 2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this
 unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget.

 3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout
 the commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like
 the bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a
 while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.
 Also not sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference
 although it sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does
 show that it is 4 weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a
 supply problem or just that popular.

 All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something
 else pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines
 if they have used them before or know more about their differences to make
 me have a decision either way.

 Thanks for everyone's help.

 -Bob



CSCS via enema

2014-09-30 Thread Rafael Villegas

Hello,

Has anybody tried CS via enema? Any experience if it is more effective for 
certain illnesses versus drinking it or nebulizing it?
What about doing maintenance enemas with CS versus water? Will it kill 
beneficial bacteria in the intestines?

thanks,

Rafael


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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Joe Huard
I made my own last year, and then this year I bought the Colloid Master 
from www.wishgranted.com. The price was reasonable and they shipped it 
right away. It reverses current direction by itself, so no stirring is 
necessary.

Joe
On 2014-09-29 2:48 PM, Top Dog wrote:

Hi all,

New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past 
week and I found this list through one of the forums.  There are 
certainly some confusing statements that I have been encountering from 
people and creators of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to 
three choices and I am looking for opinions on which to go with.


My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart 
sizes but if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for 
something that won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test 
of time as far as reliability goes and can be used every day or every 
other day if needed and can be repaired easily if needed with support 
from the manufacturer.  Also must have some sort of mechanical stirrer 
as from what I have read, a bubbler is a bad idea. I'm not interested 
in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400


It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have 
read and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls 
into my specifications then please let me know.


The units are:
1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this 
unit and it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more 
info on how long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger 
batch's but might have missed it on the website so I am going to check 
again for those answers.  Seems like it has been reliable for people.  
Not sure on the magnetic stirrer unit as I am not sure of its 
longevity.  May just pick a used lab unit up somewhere.


2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of 
this unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget.


3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that 
tout the commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  
I do like the bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy 
a new set for a while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep 
the rods evenly used.  Also not sure if having the water a higher PH 
does really make a difference although it sounds plausible.  This unit 
is high on my list but it does show that it is 4 weeks on backorder 
which makes me wonder if there is a supply problem or just that popular.


All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless 
something else pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of 
these machines if they have used them before or know more about their 
differences to make me have a decision either way.


Thanks for everyone's help.

-Bob



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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread PT Ferrance
I second accolades for the Silver Puppy and for Ken.  I have had great 
experiences with the Silver Puppy.  Simple to use and a consistently good 
product.

PT

 



 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?
 

I have had a Silver Puppy for 8 years or so and have the same rods and magnetic 
stirrer with no sign of them wearing out anytime soon.  it makes consistently 
good CS - I make my own distilled water so get no discolouration problems due 
to water not being good.  It does the reverse polarity thing as well and turns 
itself off when it reaches 10ppm.  You can manually turn it on again as it has 
an auto/manual switch and you can set it to make a higher ppm if you want.  Ken 
is really good when asked advice (straight to the point) and has integrity, 
which I would question with a lot of manufacturers.  I don’t think you can make 
such large batches as you can with the Silvegen, but am not sure.  This is 
another good machine according to people on the list who have one.  HTH dee


On 29 Sep 2014, at 20:05, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am interested in a new machine also as mine doesn't have a stir method and 
 seems a bit fragile. I also would like to know if any lend themselves easily 
 to using silver coins instead of silver wire. I bought two .999 percent 
 silver and hope to use them. Thanks!
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week and I 
 found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some 
 confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators 
 of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am 
 looking for opinions on which to go with.
 
 My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes but 
 if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something that 
 won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far as 
 reliability goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed and 
 can be repaired easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.  Also 
 must have some sort of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a bubbler 
 is a bad idea. I'm not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400
 
 It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have read 
 and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my 
 specifications then please let me know.
 
 The units are:
 1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit and 
 it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on how 
 long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might have 
 missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those answers.  
 Seems like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the magnetic stirrer 
 unit as I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a used lab unit up 
 somewhere.
 
 2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this 
 unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget. 
 
 3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the 
 commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like the 
 bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a 
 while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.  
 Also not sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference 
 although it sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does show 
 that it is 4 weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a supply 
 problem or just that popular.
 
 All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something else 
 pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines if 
 they have used them before or know more about their differences to make me 
 have a decision either way.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help.
 
 -Bob
 


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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Lena Guyot
Enthusiastic ditto, here!
Be well,
Léna
On Sep 30, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

 What Dorothy said. I too have a Silver Puppy and love it. I leave it on 
 automatic and it's great. You can ask Ken any questions you have, either here 
 or on his site. He's extremely knowledgeable, down to earth, no bullshit and 
 no outlandish claims. I honestly can't recommend him and his products highly 
 enough.
 
 Cheers 
 Kirsteen
 
 On 29 Sep 2014 19:48, Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week and I 
 found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some 
 confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators 
 of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am 
 looking for opinions on which to go with.
 
 My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes but 
 if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something that 
 won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far as 
 reliability goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed and 
 can be repaired easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.  Also 
 must have some sort of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a bubbler 
 is a bad idea. I'm not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400
 
 It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have read 
 and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my 
 specifications then please let me know.
 
 The units are:
 1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit and 
 it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on how 
 long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might have 
 missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those answers.  
 Seems like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the magnetic stirrer 
 unit as I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a used lab unit up 
 somewhere.
 
 2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this 
 unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget. 
 
 3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the 
 commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like the 
 bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a 
 while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.  
 Also not sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference 
 although it sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does show 
 that it is 4 weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a supply 
 problem or just that popular.
 
 All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something else 
 pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines if 
 they have used them before or know more about their differences to make me 
 have a decision either way.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help.
 
 -Bob



Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread moxaman
The SilverGen can make up to 5 gallons at a time.  Google for info.  I have one 
and it’s great.  I make the silver for horses so I need to make a lot at one 
time.

From: Lena Guyot 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

Enthusiastic ditto, here! 
Be well,
Léna

On Sep 30, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote:


  What Dorothy said. I too have a Silver Puppy and love it. I leave it on 
automatic and it's great. You can ask Ken any questions you have, either here 
or on his site. He's extremely knowledgeable, down to earth, no bullshit and no 
outlandish claims. I honestly can't recommend him and his products highly 
enough. 

  Cheers 
  Kirsteen 

  On 29 Sep 2014 19:48, Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,


New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week and 
I found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some 
confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators of 
machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am looking 
for opinions on which to go with.


My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes but 
if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something that won't 
take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far as reliability 
goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed and can be repaired 
easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.  Also must have some sort 
of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a bubbler is a bad idea. I'm 
not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400


It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have read 
and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my 
specifications then please let me know.


The units are:

1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit 
and it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on how 
long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might have 
missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those answers.  Seems 
like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the magnetic stirrer unit as 
I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a used lab unit up somewhere.


2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this 
unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget. 


3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the 
commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like the 
bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a while.  
Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.  Also not 
sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference although it 
sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does show that it is 4 
weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a supply problem or just 
that popular.


All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something 
else pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines if 
they have used them before or know more about their differences to make me have 
a decision either way.


Thanks for everyone's help.


-Bob



Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread sol


I own both the Silverpuppy and a Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with 
both.

I make quarts with the pup, and gallons with the SG-6.

If you seed the next batch by leaving approximately 1/4 of the 
previous batch in the brew jar, processing time is greatly reduced.


sol

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CSGallon CS generator

2014-09-30 Thread Al Bedoya
I have the Silvonic 1G from Elixa.com that makes a gallon at a time, has a 
magnetic stirrer, and a lifetime warranty. www.elixa.com/silver/Silvonic1G.htmI 
checked out all the other systems and these guys answered all my questions 
clearly and quickly. Excellent customer service and fast shipping.They also 
have an inexpensive nebulizer and an ointment kit.Cool instructional videos 
too. I follow their advice about usage... when in doubt, use more!Abe 


Re: CSCS via enema

2014-09-30 Thread Deborah Gerard
I have done retention enema's that I thought worked really well. I am not sure 
about the flora living in the colon. I thought it lived in the deeper 
intestine's not the colon. I could be wrong. I am sure the more knowledgeable 
will weigh in.
Debbie :) 


On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:16 AM, Rafael Villegas 
rafa...@especulador.com wrote:
  



Hello,

Has anybody tried CS via enema? Any experience if it is more effective for 
certain illnesses versus drinking it or nebulizing it?
What about doing maintenance enemas with CS versus water? Will it kill 
beneficial bacteria in the intestines?

thanks,

Rafael


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2014-09-30 Thread TJ Garland
Liars. Anything to put billions into big pharma's pockets, while thinning the 
population. 
The ebv68 virus is a real worry. Take precautions now. It is now in Tennessee 
and affects adults.
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CSI have had the silver puppy

2014-09-30 Thread Cj Landry
For just over a year. Use it 2/3 times a week and am completely happy. I did 
quite a bit of reading and asking from ppl of like minds. Everyone pointed to 
the silver puppy for personal needs. I have no regrets.

Cj Landry
All About Dogs
803-951-8818
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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Dee
So does the SilverPuppy but you can have a magnetic stirrer as well if you 
want...dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 30 Sep 2014, at 14:11, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:
 
 I made my own last year, and then this year I bought the Colloid Master from 
 www.wishgranted.com. The price was reasonable and they shipped it right away. 
 It reverses current direction by itself, so no stirring is necessary.
 Joe
 On 2014-09-29 2:48 PM, Top Dog wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week and 
 I found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some 
 confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators 
 of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am 
 looking for opinions on which to go with.
 
 My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes but 
 if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something that 
 won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far as 
 reliability goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed and 
 can be repaired easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.  Also 
 must have some sort of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a 
 bubbler is a bad idea. I'm not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400
 
 It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have read 
 and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my 
 specifications then please let me know.
 
 The units are:
 1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit and 
 it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on how 
 long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might have 
 missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those answers.  
 Seems like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the magnetic 
 stirrer unit as I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a used lab 
 unit up somewhere.
 
 2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this 
 unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget.
 
 3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the 
 commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like the 
 bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a 
 while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.  
 Also not sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference 
 although it sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does show 
 that it is 4 weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a supply 
 problem or just that popular.
 
 All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something 
 else pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines 
 if they have used them before or know more about their differences to make 
 me have a decision either way.
 
 Thanks for everyone's help.
 
 -Bob
 
 
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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread slickpicker
Joe:

I bought a Colloid Master after my SG6 crapped out. However, I find it almost 
impossible to get the silver electrodes to sit relatively parallel in the 
solution because the insertion method is so flimsy. Did you find a workaround?

Thanks,
Terry

 Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: 

=
I made my own last year, and then this year I bought the Colloid Master 
from www.wishgranted.com. The price was reasonable and they shipped it 
right away. It reverses current direction by itself, so no stirring is 
necessary.
Joe
On 2014-09-29 2:48 PM, Top Dog wrote:
 Hi all,

 New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past 
 week and I found this list through one of the forums.  There are 
 certainly some confusing statements that I have been encountering from 
 people and creators of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to 
 three choices and I am looking for opinions on which to go with.

 My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart 
 sizes but if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for 
 something that won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test 
 of time as far as reliability goes and can be used every day or every 
 other day if needed and can be repaired easily if needed with support 
 from the manufacturer.  Also must have some sort of mechanical stirrer 
 as from what I have read, a bubbler is a bad idea. I'm not interested 
 in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400

 It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have 
 read and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls 
 into my specifications then please let me know.

 The units are:
 1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this 
 unit and it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more 
 info on how long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger 
 batch's but might have missed it on the website so I am going to check 
 again for those answers.  Seems like it has been reliable for people.  
 Not sure on the magnetic stirrer unit as I am not sure of its 
 longevity.  May just pick a used lab unit up somewhere.

 2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of 
 this unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget.

 3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that 
 tout the commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  
 I do like the bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy 
 a new set for a while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep 
 the rods evenly used.  Also not sure if having the water a higher PH 
 does really make a difference although it sounds plausible.  This unit 
 is high on my list but it does show that it is 4 weeks on backorder 
 which makes me wonder if there is a supply problem or just that popular.

 All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless 
 something else pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of 
 these machines if they have used them before or know more about their 
 differences to make me have a decision either way.

 Thanks for everyone's help.

 -Bob


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CSTesting CS

2014-09-30 Thread Alan Faulkner
I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?

Alan


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Re: CSFDA warns consumers about fake Ebola drugs - CNN.com

2014-09-30 Thread bodhipakkhiya

ebola is in tennessee?

On Sep 30, 2014, at 11:09 AM, TJ Garland wrote:

Liars. Anything to put billions into big pharma's pockets, while  
thinning the population.
The ebv68 virus is a real worry. Take precautions now. It is now in  
Tennessee and affects adults.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/health/ebola-fake-drugs/



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RE: CSTesting CS

2014-09-30 Thread TREM
Alan,

The HI98308 is the PWT and it measures directly in PPM from .1 to 99.9 PPM
TDS meters read in whole numbers and only read about 1/2 the silver so you
double their readings.

Trem

-Original Message-
From: Alan Faulkner [mailto:ala...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTesting CS

I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?

Alan


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CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine

2014-09-30 Thread Deborah Gerard
Greetings to all,

Can I please get some opinions on D-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine for energy? I 
am 63 in fairly good health except for energy and am sick and tired of being 
tired.
I do a multitude of things for my body no meat, no gluten, drink only filtered 
water, take vitamins etc.
If you do take something for energy could you please tell me where you buy them 
too?
Thanks in advance,

Debbie


RE: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread TREM
It pumps dust and nitrogen through the water.

The preferred method is mechanical stirring.

 

Trem

 

From: jmharringto...@yahoo.com [mailto:jmharringto...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

 



Curious as to why a bubbler is considered bad?
A lot of people use this method.
Please and thank you.
Kind regards,
Michele
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android 

 

  _  

From: V highergroun...@gmail.com; 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; 
Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? 
Sent: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 7:05:07 PM 

 


I am interested in a new machine also as mine doesn't have a stir method
and seems a bit fragile. I also would like to know if any lend themselves
easily to using silver coins instead of silver wire. I bought two .999
percent silver and hope to use them. Thanks!

 

 

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com
javascript:return  wrote:

Hi all,

New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week and
I found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some
confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators
of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am
looking for opinions on which to go with.

My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes but
if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something that
won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far as
reliability goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed and
can be repaired easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.  Also
must have some sort of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a
bubbler is a bad idea. I'm not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400

It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have read
and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my
specifications then please let me know.

The units are:

1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit
and it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on
how long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might
have missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those
answers.  Seems like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the
magnetic stirrer unit as I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a
used lab unit up somewhere.

2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this
unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget. 

3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout the
commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like the
bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a
while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.
Also not sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference
although it sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does
show that it is 4 weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a
supply problem or just that popular.

All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something
else pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines
if they have used them before or know more about their differences to make
me have a decision either way.

Thanks for everyone's help.

-Bob

 



Re: CSTesting CS

2014-09-30 Thread Gary Hilt
Hello Trem:
My silvergen will not shut offf after 3-4 hours using good ph distilled
water. An suggestions. ThankYou

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM, TREM t...@silvergen.com wrote:

 Alan,

 The HI98308 is the PWT and it measures directly in PPM from .1 to 99.9 PPM
 TDS meters read in whole numbers and only read about 1/2 the silver so you
 double their readings.

 Trem

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Faulkner [mailto:ala...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:36 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSTesting CS

 I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?

 Alan


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Re: CSTesting CS

2014-09-30 Thread John Popelish

On 09/30/2014 02:36 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote:

I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for
testing CS PPM?


My problem with TDS (total dissolved solids) meters, is that
they have a rather arbitrary calibration, based on the
assumption that the dissolved solid is some particular salt.

I like a true (EC or electrical conductivity) conductivity
meter.  To convert microsiemens per cm conductivity to total
dissolved solids you use a conversion factor to calculate
the dissolved solids value for a specific substance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conductivity_%28electrolytic%29
http://www.tdsmeter.com/what-is?id=0019

Unfortunately, colloidal silver gives a different
conductivity (lower) that ionic silver, for the same
concentration.

But either TDS or EC meters should give consistent and
repeatable results for silver water made by the same method
(where the ratio of colloidal to ionic silver should be
pretty consistent).  So if you like the solution you have
made, making it, again, to the same reading, should produce
about the same solution.

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RE: CSTesting CS

2014-09-30 Thread TREM
Hello Gary,

 

The generators will sometimes not shut off on the HIGH setting because the 
water will not accept any more ions and it keeps turning them into colloids 
which are not conductive.

Just turn the dial down until it shuts off and that’s the maximum setting for 
the water you’re using.  Usually around 2-3 O:clock will be about right.

 

I hope this helps you.

 

Best regards,

 

Trem Williams

customer_serv...@silvergen.com

www.silvergen.com

 

 

 

 

From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTesting CS

 

Hello Trem:

My silvergen will not shut offf after 3-4 hours using good ph distilled water. 
An suggestions. ThankYou

 

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM, TREM t...@silvergen.com wrote:

Alan,

The HI98308 is the PWT and it measures directly in PPM from .1 to 99.9 PPM
TDS meters read in whole numbers and only read about 1/2 the silver so you
double their readings.

Trem

-Original Message-
From: Alan Faulkner [mailto:ala...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTesting CS

I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?

Alan


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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Victor Cozzetto
I prefer a thermal stirrer, as it speeds up production by adding some
warmth. This is very significant if you are not in a temperature controlled
environment; such as an empty house in winter that does not keep the heat
running. I even use a warmer bulb in winter.

I am another silverpuppy user and highly recommend it.

Victor

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:22 AM, TREM t...@silvergen.com wrote:

 It pumps dust and nitrogen through the water.

 The preferred method is mechanical stirring.



 Trem



 *From:* jmharringto...@yahoo.com [mailto:jmharringto...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 12:56 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?




 Curious as to why a bubbler is considered bad?
 A lot of people use this method.
 Please and thank you.
 Kind regards,
 Michele
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android


 --

 *From: *V highergroun...@gmail.com;
 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com;
 *Subject: *Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?
 *Sent: *Mon, Sep 29, 2014 7:05:07 PM



 I am interested in a new machine also as mine doesn't have a stir method
 and seems a bit fragile. I also would like to know if any lend themselves
 easily to using silver coins instead of silver wire. I bought two .999
 percent silver and hope to use them. Thanks!





 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Top Dog rsh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 New here but have been devouring everything on silver for the past week
 and I found this list through one of the forums.  There are certainly some
 confusing statements that I have been encountering from people and creators
 of machines but I think I have it narrowed down to three choices and I am
 looking for opinions on which to go with.

 My goals are to make 10-20ppm of ionic silver preferably in quart sizes
 but if feasible then a gallon would be great.  I'm looking for something
 that won't take 12 hrs to do a batch and will stand the test of time as far
 as reliability goes and can be used every day or every other day if needed
 and can be repaired easily if needed with support from the manufacturer.
 Also must have some sort of mechanical stirrer as from what I have read, a
 bubbler is a bad idea. I'm not interested in a toy.  My budget is $350-$400

 It appears that I have come down to these three units from what I have
 read and gathered so far, but if anyone has another unit that falls into my
 specifications then please let me know.

 The units are:

 1.  Silver Puppy:   Seems like alot of people are pleased with this unit
 and it certainly has a good price point.  Trying to find out more info on
 how long the rods will last etc and if it will do larger batch's but might
 have missed it on the website so I am going to check again for those
 answers.  Seems like it has been reliable for people.  Not sure on the
 magnetic stirrer unit as I am not sure of its longevity.  May just pick a
 used lab unit up somewhere.

 2.  Silver Gen Model SG6 Auto:  Manufacturer touts the uniqueness of this
 unit and has a built in mechanical stirrer. Within my budget.

 3.  Silver Lungs:  Watched the videos and read a few websites that tout
 the commercial like nature of this machine and it's reliability.  I do like
 the bigger silver rods as it should keep from having to buy a new set for a
 while.  Like the polarity reversal function to keep the rods evenly used.
 Also not sure if having the water a higher PH does really make a difference
 although it sounds plausible.  This unit is high on my list but it does
 show that it is 4 weeks on backorder which makes me wonder if there is a
 supply problem or just that popular.

 All in all I am looking to choose one of these machines unless something
 else pops up but wanted some takes on what people thought of these machines
 if they have used them before or know more about their differences to make
 me have a decision either way.

 Thanks for everyone's help.

 -Bob





Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread John Popelish

On 09/30/2014 06:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:

I prefer a thermal stirrer, as it speeds up production by adding some
warmth. This is very significant if you are not in a temperature controlled
environment; such as an empty house in winter that does not keep the heat
running. I even use a warmer bulb in winter.

(snip)

This brings up another question (sorry for stepping on your 
topic) that has been bouncing around in my mind for a while.


Has anyone investigated how the proportions of ionic to 
colloidal silver (or the size of the colloidal clusters) 
varies as the temperature of the water is changed, for any 
given generator source and electrode configuration?


I know that the rate of production goes up as the 
temperature rises, because warm water is more electrically 
conductive.  But I haven't seen any reference about the 
quality, versus temperature.


I may have to do some controlled experiments, comparing 
batches made in the refrigerator (say, 35F), at room 
temperature, and in a makeshift oven, somewhere below 
boiling.  Those three points might make a nice trend line, 
if I can quantify the results.


If anyone wants to dive into this, perhaps we should use a 
new thread.  Feel free to paste any of my text into that.


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John Popelish


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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Asif Nathekar

Hi

I have favoured cooler temps and no starter liquid for the reason that 
higher water resistance will produce more ions


let me know your thoughts...

cheers.

Asif.
-Original Message- 
From: John Popelish

Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

On 09/30/2014 06:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:

I prefer a thermal stirrer, as it speeds up production by adding some
warmth. This is very significant if you are not in a temperature 
controlled

environment; such as an empty house in winter that does not keep the heat
running. I even use a warmer bulb in winter.

(snip)

This brings up another question (sorry for stepping on your
topic) that has been bouncing around in my mind for a while.

Has anyone investigated how the proportions of ionic to
colloidal silver (or the size of the colloidal clusters)
varies as the temperature of the water is changed, for any
given generator source and electrode configuration?

I know that the rate of production goes up as the
temperature rises, because warm water is more electrically
conductive.  But I haven't seen any reference about the
quality, versus temperature.

I may have to do some controlled experiments, comparing
batches made in the refrigerator (say, 35F), at room
temperature, and in a makeshift oven, somewhere below
boiling.  Those three points might make a nice trend line,
if I can quantify the results.

If anyone wants to dive into this, perhaps we should use a
new thread.  Feel free to paste any of my text into that.

--
Regards,

John Popelish


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Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread John Popelish

On 09/30/2014 07:53 PM, Asif Nathekar wrote:

Hi

I have favoured cooler temps and no starter liquid for the
reason that higher water resistance will produce more ions

let me know your thoughts...


I have only color or blue laser scatter to estimate 
colloidal concentration, while have only an assumption that 
the EC meter measures mostly ion concentration.  Both of 
those are a little doubtful.


And with the pulser circuit we are trying with, we have a 
new variable in the experiment that may act differently than 
low voltage DC does.


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Re: CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine

2014-09-30 Thread moxaman
Debbie,

  One of the best and healthiest things I can do for increased energy and 
stamina is to drink freshly made juice.  My favorite is carrot, beet, cabbage, 
kale.  Delicious too!

From: Deborah Gerard 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine

Greetings to all,



Can I please get some opinions on D-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine for energy? I 
am 63 in fairly good health except for energy and am sick and tired of being 
tired.
I do a multitude of things for my body no meat, no gluten, drink only filtered 
water, take vitamins etc.
If you do take something for energy could you please tell me where you buy them 
too?
Thanks in advance,

Debbie


Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Asif Nathekar

I raise my chances of having a high ionic brew by having a low current

and avoiding brewing under a full moon :)


-Original Message- 
From: John Popelish 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 1:13 AM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSNew Generator choice of three? 


On 09/30/2014 07:53 PM, Asif Nathekar wrote:

Hi

I have favoured cooler temps and no starter liquid for the
reason that higher water resistance will produce more ions

let me know your thoughts...


I have only color or blue laser scatter to estimate 
colloidal concentration, while have only an assumption that 
the EC meter measures mostly ion concentration.  Both of 
those are a little doubtful.


And with the pulser circuit we are trying with, we have a 
new variable in the experiment that may act differently than 
low voltage DC does.


--
Regards,

John Popelish


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Re: CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine

2014-09-30 Thread PT Ferrance
If I remember correctly if you are not eating meat (and don't eat enough diary 
or eggs) you can be lacking in B12... an energy vitamin.
PT

 


 From: moxaman bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine
 


Debbie,
 
  One of the best and healthiest things I can 
do for increased energy and stamina is to drink freshly made juice.  My 
favorite is carrot, beet, cabbage, kale.  Delicious too! 
From: Deborah Gerard 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine
  Greetings to all,

 Can 
I please get some opinions on D-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine for energy? I am 
63 in fairly good health except for energy and am sick and tired of being 
tired.
I 
do a multitude of things for my body no meat, no gluten, drink only filtered 
water, take vitamins etc.
If 
you do take something for energy could you please tell me where you buy them 
too?
Thanks 
in advance,
 
Debbie 

RE: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread Neville



 Has anyone investigated how the proportions of ionic to 
 colloidal silver (or the size of the colloidal clusters) 
 varies as the temperature of the water is changed, for any 
 given generator source and electrode configuration?
 
 Regards,
 
 John Popelish

As a 'back yard' brewer all I've got by way of figures are what I used to 
document a few years ago, and using El Cheapo home brand DW.  Don't know if 
these are of any value.


The following are figures from my 'open air kitchen' environment and 
incorporating the HM digital Com-100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter set on KCl uS, also 
incorporating my home made magnetic stirrer with a 3mm wire diameter twin loop 
home made generator operating on 24vdc done during seasonal atmospheric 
temperature changes.


Volume Time in hours  KCLuS  W/Temp TE after 
stabilising period
1 litre1 1/224.5  25.4  
  very faint
..27.4  24.9
strong
..14.7  16.2
faint
..15.6  21.9
good
...2.15.3  13.9 
   strong
...2.18.0  14.8 
   faint to good


The above would not constitute suitable test results of course but is the best 
I could do in the home.


I think it might be a tall order determining much from the ‘home’ environment, 
there are too many inconsistencies with my figures anyway.  Be aware these are 
just straight out results from go to wo and ignoring DW reading prior to 
production, which was always between 1 point something and 2.  TE is a visual 
comparison observation and done after solution had stabilised in KCluS reading, 
which of course had dropped over that time period.  Even then it's not accurate 
due to water temperature several days later which will effect the reading 
accordingly.
I don't think the home produced stuff ever stabilises to a point 
of...Stability?  And it's the home made stuff of which most would be 
interested in I would imagine.
N.

Re: CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine

2014-09-30 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Debbie.. You should get your tsh (thyroid) checked, iron and b-12 as PT
mentioned.  Also, a natural progesterone cream like Pro-Gest
can be appropriate. And taking an iodine supplement such as iodoral or
I-throid can be helpful.  When adding iodine, be sure to take the
companion nutrients (Vit C, magnesium, selenium and Celtic Sea Salt or Real
Salt).  If you try iodine, start off with very low doses
(the liquid Lugols might be more appropriate when starting off) and be
ready to back down the dosage if detox symptoms appear.

Iodine is a member of the chemical family called 'halides'.  Chlorine,
fluorine and bromine also belong to this family.  In the absence
of iodine, these other chemicals occupy the iodine receptor sites on our
cells and, when we start adding iodine, iodine will start 'kicking
out' these other halides and it may be more than our liver/kidneys can
handle thus.. the companion nutrients help open up the detox
pathways and backing off dosage is called for.  I don't think of iodine as
some wild, exotic supplement... to me it is just like Vit C or B
or any other nutrient that our body requires.  Do your own homework and
research.  Knowledge is power, right?
Any questions... just holler.   Lola H.




On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:56 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  If I remember correctly if you are not eating meat (and don't eat enough
 diary or eggs) you can be lacking in B12... an energy vitamin.
 PT

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 *From:* moxaman bbane...@earthlink.net
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:16 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine

   Debbie,

   One of the best and healthiest things I can do for increased energy
 and stamina is to drink freshly made juice.  My favorite is carrot, beet,
 cabbage, kale.  Delicious too!

  *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:54 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* CSD-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine

  Greetings to all,


 Can I please get some opinions on D-Ribose verses Dimethylglycine for
 energy? I am 63 in fairly good health except for energy and am sick and
 tired of being tired.
 I do a multitude of things for my body no meat, no gluten, drink only
 filtered water, take vitamins etc.
 If you do take something for energy could you please tell me where you buy
 them too?
 Thanks in advance,

 Debbie






Re: CSNew Generator choice of three?

2014-09-30 Thread John Popelish

On 09/30/2014 10:22 PM, Neville wrote:


As a 'back yard' brewer all I've got by way of figures are what I used to 
document a few years ago, and using El Cheapo home brand DW.  Don't know if 
these are of any value.


The following are figures from my 'open air kitchen' environment and 
incorporating the HM digital Com-100 EC/TDS/TEMP meter set on KCl uS, also 
incorporating my home made magnetic stirrer with a 3mm wire diameter twin loop 
home made generator operating on 24vdc done during seasonal atmospheric 
temperature changes.


Volume Time in hours  KCLuS  W/Temp TE after 
stabilising period
1 litre1 1/224.5  25.4  
  very faint
..27.4  24.9
strong
..14.7  16.2
faint
..15.6  21.9
good
...2.15.3  13.9 
   strong
...2.18.0  14.8 
   faint to good


The above would not constitute suitable test results of course but is the best 
I could do in the home.


I think it might be a tall order determining much from the ‘home’ environment, 
there are too many inconsistencies with my figures anyway.  Be aware these are 
just straight out results from go to wo and ignoring DW reading prior to 
production, which was always between 1 point something and 2.  TE is a visual 
comparison observation and done after solution had stabilised in KCluS reading, 
which of course had dropped over that time period.  Even then it's not accurate 
due to water temperature several days later which will effect the reading 
accordingly.
I don't think the home produced stuff ever stabilises to a point 
of...Stability?  And it's the home made stuff of which most would be 
interested in I would imagine.


That is the kind of experience I am looking for.  Thanks for 
putting this on the record.  I'll take a little time to 
study this and see if I can extract any trend from it.


--
Regards,

John Popelish


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