RE: CS Use of copper---
Hi Renee, I think you're onto something here as far as using fresh milk thistle seed and grinding them yourself. The question I have - is during the summer we have lots of milk thistle plants on our property but I wouldn't have a clue as to how to harvest their seeds. Do you or anybody else for that matter? Thx. Lisa _ From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Use of copper--- Just one spot could be anything. Usually when one starts getting liver spots they are past 50 and they usually start showing up first on hands, though they can be anywhere. But, unless you are 20 something, (and even then with todays world being what it is) it never, ever hurts to do a liver cleanse. There are many good ones out there, and they can be bought at any health food store. Then after the cleanse it's good to continue to support the liver. Milk thistle is the number one liver support herb as it not only strengthens the liver but helps build new cells. The very best way to take milk thistle is to buy milk thistle seeds, whole, and grind them as you use them. They can be put into a salt or pepper grinder, and just grind them over your salads or potatoes, etc, or you can get a spice grinder and grind up just a few days worth. There's a good liver product that I've recently been hearing about on a pet list. It seems that many dogs that have had high liver values and have already been on either prescription liver meds or on milk thistle, have taken this product and within 2 to 3 weeks their liver values have come down to normal. It is called Country Life Liver Support Factor. The cheapest place I've Found it is http://www.iherb I would do a cleanse and then start on the Liver Support Factor. OR, take the morning drink of the juice of one half to one lemon, a tablespoon of either grade B maple syrup or black strap molasses in a cup of warm water. This helps to mildly clean the liver daily. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- SO if I have just one spot on my face for several years and that means that I need a liver cleanse do I just get one from Sun Harvest? Cathy
RE: CS Use of copper---
I'm assuming like any other seeds gathering--you have to wait till the head of the flower is all dried out, then you shake the seeds into a bag. You'll have to watch to see if with the milk thistle, that like some thistles the seeds are attached to 'wings' and tend to fly off in the wind (like dandelions). As I've never collected thistle seeds (have never seen wild milk thistle here) you'll have to keep an eye on a plant to see what happens Collecting seeds will mean you have some little twigs or chaff, but I can't see any big need to winnow them out, unless you get some big enough to just pick up with your fingers. Store bought seeds will be clean--no chaff. Wild gathered you'll get some chaff. But the chaff will grind up with the seeds and probably has the same chemicals as the seeds. Sometimes what people do with plants they are keeping seeds from is, as the heads get closer to drying out, they cut off the flower heads and hang them upside down to let them dry--if the seeds are the type to stick in the flower heads. If the seeds are the type to drop off, then they cut the heads just before becoming completely dry, and place them into a paper bag. After the heads dry, they shake the bag to release the seeds. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- is during the summer we have lots of milk thistle plants on our property but I wouldnt have a clue as to how to harvest their seeds. Do you or anybody else for that matter?
Re: CS Use of copper---
Just one spot could be anything. Usually when one starts getting liver spots they are past 50 and they usually start showing up first on hands, though they can be anywhere. But, unless you are 20 something, (and even then with todays world being what it is) it never, ever hurts to do a liver cleanse. There are many good ones out there, and they can be bought at any health food store. Then after the cleanse it's good to continue to support the liver. Milk thistle is the number one liver support herb as it not only strengthens the liver but helps build new cells. The very best way to take milk thistle is to buy milk thistle seeds, whole, and grind them as you use them. They can be put into a salt or pepper grinder, and just grind them over your salads or potatoes, etc, or you can get a spice grinder and grind up just a few days worth. There's a good liver product that I've recently been hearing about on a pet list. It seems that many dogs that have had high liver values and have already been on either prescription liver meds or on milk thistle, have taken this product and within 2 to 3 weeks their liver values have come down to normal. It is called Country Life Liver Support Factor. The cheapest place I've Found it is http://www.iherb I would do a cleanse and then start on the Liver Support Factor. OR, take the morning drink of the juice of one half to one lemon, a tablespoon of either grade B maple syrup or black strap molasses in a cup of warm water. This helps to mildly clean the liver daily. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- SO if I have just one spot on my face for several years and that means that I need a liver cleanse do I just get one from Sun Harvest? Cathy
Re: CS Use of copper---
This is such a brilliant supplier Renee, I always get my supplements from them as they are so reasonable. Postage is amazing too - they charge me $4 whereas other places charge as much as $39! Do you happen to know what would happen after taking the liver cleanse tablets? Its just that my husband has a really delicate system and the least thing will have him rushing to the loo! dee On 24 Feb 2010, at 14:14, Renee wrote: Just one spot could be anything. Usually when one starts getting liver spots they are past 50 and they usually start showing up first on hands, though they can be anywhere. But, unless you are 20 something, (and even then with todays world being what it is) it never, ever hurts to do a liver cleanse. There are many good ones out there, and they can be bought at any health food store. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
Usually liver cleanses do not cause diarrhea. Of course, every person is different--so I would advise just starting with a tablet or two a day and see how he reacts. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Do you happen to know what would happen after taking the liver cleanse tablets?
Re: CS Use of copper---
I thought 'liver/age' spots were caused by lack of selenium and sun damage? dee On 23 Feb 2010, at 04:20, Renee wrote: Well dang--I've got grey hair--symptom of not enough copper, and a couple liver spots on my right hand, a symptom of too much copper. What's a lady to do?? ;-) Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I did read elsewhere an email claiming that liver spots (those dark age spots on hands, etc) can indicate excess copper. And I have to say mine have faded a rather tremendous amount since I began a program of supplements to reduce copper. (I had taken copper for years without taking any zinc). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
You might consider adaptogens like Fo Ti (Ho Shu Wu) which can supposedly turn hair back to natural color, or retard getting grey. Nancy On 23 Feb 2010, at 04:20, Renee wrote: Well dang--I've got grey hair--symptom of not enough copper, and a couple liver spots on my right hand, a symptom of too much copper. What's a lady to do?? ;-) Samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
Nah, liver and age spots are due to--liver toxicity. I was just writing that about copper because the previous post said it was due to too much copper, and I'd posted that I heard that traveling doctor say grey hair was due to not enough copper. And since I had both--grey hair and liver spots--where did that leave me? Too much or too little? Lol But seriously, when a person does a good liver cleanse, and does it long enough, the spots go away. It's one method of physically seeing that your liver needs help--so I need to get my but into gear and go on an internal cleanse. Because if the liver is showing it needs help, then you can bet the kidneys do too. Start with a colon cleanse, because that needs to be working correctly so as to be able to eliminate the toxins the liver and kidney cleanses dump into the blood. If you aren't going to the bathroom regularly, the toxins can't get out and they get reabsorbed into the system--which is why you'll hear people say they get headaches or nausea on organ cleanses. They aren't getting those toxins out and the body is trying to deal with them. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I thought 'liver/age' spots were caused by lack of selenium and sun damage? dee
Re: CS Use of copper---
I've heard about that herb before. I wonder if it's true. Just one more thing to experiment with. Sigh Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- You might consider adaptogens like Fo Ti (Ho Shu Wu) which can supposedly turn hair back to natural color, or retard getting grey.
Re: CS Use of copper---
Thanks Ode. I've thought about taking, not so much colloidal copper as ormus copper. But as I said, it's not a priority and I haven't done it yet, even years after hearing the (almost) dead doctor lecture. So it may be years before I bother with it. I'm just simply always curious, and store the information that I hear. And remarks set the gears into motion again--like when the other person here mentioned making colloidal copper-I wondered if I could do it with your machine--which made me wonder if copper was missing in our diets--which made me remember the copper/hair thing. And so it goes. Questions and more questions. :-) Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Isn't that dead doctor guy dead yet? He was a glacier water ' ground up rock' MLM salesman. You can't go by what salesmen say, even if partly true, every person is unique and extremely complicated.
Re: CS Use of copper---
Isn't that dead doctor guy dead yet?
He was a glacier water ' ground up rock' MLM salesman.
You can't go by what salesmen say, even if partly true, every person is
unique and extremely complicated.
[ OK..so this guy drank glacier melt water and lived for 140 years, but he
can't count past ten. ]
Copper toxicity has easily determined early symptoms like numbness of
limbs, difficulty in concentrating and mood swings.
Having deliberately increased exposure to Copper and being aware of that,
you'll know if there's a problem and can escape before it's irreversible
just by cutting back on exposure and having the symptoms go away...it's not
instant destruction.
Theoretically, however, you might not realize what overloading the
regulation system with one metal is doing with other metals.
And if you haven't purposefully increased exposure, you might not know why
you feel so weird, or even that you DO feel weird, while those around you
that don't have that problem even under the same circumstance worry their
heads off.
Copper, like Aluminum, is so common that's it's generally really difficult
to avoid...but then, minerals are not the least bit evenly distributed.
The blanket statement that soils have had all the Silver leached out of
them can't be true when no two soils have ever been the same even a few
yards apart and Silver is a semi rare mineral to start with...or that
modern foods lack the nutrients of the old days, when modern farmers
actually take great care to supplement soils with minerals, unlike back in
the old days...and the foods of the old days have never been analyzed to
see WHAT WAS in them.
If something isn't there, organic farming methods don't create it.
And old farming methods were even worse for soils than modern farming
methods, often burning soils out so much they wouldn't even grow grass or
anything but scrubby short needle pines with really long tap roots. [Go
West, young man, your Daddys Eastern farm is dead.]
Skin cream salesmen may say something like Collagen has Copper in it,
therefore, more Copper will build Collagen as though why you aren't
building it is because you have a Copper shortage..when there may be a
hundred other more likely reasons that isn't happening. {Hey, try it. If
it works it works, but nobody has *your* gospel ]
Ode
At 09:12 AM 2/22/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Thanks Ode. Considering I've had your puppy for, oh, 4 or 5 years now,
I'm assuming the regulator wouldn't be one of the energy savers.
I was just wondering if it was possible to make CC. Not that I'm
interested because I already know, as you say, it can be toxic at higher
doses--and how does a person tell if they are at a too high dose? Blood
test I suppose, but since we don't even have a family doctor, we'd be hard
pressed to get a blood test for it.
I have often thought about just buying a bottle of CC and trying it simply
because of the 'dead doctors don't lie' guy. I heard him talk once and he
said anyone with grey hair has a copper shortage. Since I greyed in my
30's I've often thought about trying the CC for this, but since I'm in my
50's now, and still haven't, you can tell how important it is to me. :)
Samala,
Renee
---Original Message---
Yes..but probably not with the newer regulated 24 volt power supplies.
You need at least 27-28 volts at the electrodes which an unregulated 100+
milliamp 24 volt supply will deliver @ the Pups current load..the Pup is
good to 36 volts in AC or DC.
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Re: CS Use of copper---
Hmm...my husband is as regular as clock-work at least twice a day and has loads of 'liver' spots, whereas I can go for days without 'going' and have none! dee On 23 Feb 2010, at 14:26, Renee wrote: Nah, liver and age spots are due to--liver toxicity. I was just writing that about copper because the previous post said it was due to too much copper, and I'd posted that I heard that traveling doctor say grey hair was due to not enough copper. And since I had both--grey hair and liver spots--where did that leave me? Too much or too little? Lol But seriously, when a person does a good liver cleanse, and does it long enough, the spots go away. It's one method of physically seeing that your liver needs help--so I need to get my but into gear and go on an internal cleanse. Because if the liver is showing it needs help, then you can bet the kidneys do too. Start with a colon cleanse, because that needs to be working correctly so as to be able to eliminate the toxins the liver and kidney cleanses dump into the blood. If you aren't going to the bathroom regularly, the toxins can't get out and they get reabsorbed into the system--which is why you'll hear people say they get headaches or nausea on organ cleanses. They aren't getting those toxins out and the body is trying to deal with them. Samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Use of copper---
At 08:53 PM 2/22/2010, you wrote:
[...could be another reason I have blue moons,...]
-They're slowly being eliminated one by one by the looks of it,
that's two down in as many weeks, if I stick around long enough I
believe I'll get a 'hat trick' g.
This appears to throw some *doubt?* on yet another suggestion that
EIS alone caused an issue {innocent until proven guilty beyond all
reasonable doubt, isn't that how it goes?}. Not saying it didn't
mind...but I'm striking *you* off my list as well Sol, sorry about that.
As I see it it is still the silver that is the coloration, but it
deposited possibly helped along by lifestyle and diet choices I was
making. And take into consideration, I am certainly NOT the only
person to have either copper excess, nor to have been taking in an
inordinate amount of caffeine while taking high dose CS. I would bet
there are others on this list for whom both those factors apply, who
do not have the nail problem, so there is much more to find out.
This is what I meant a while ago about a person being flooded with a
million questions in response to a 'blanket statement', nobody
*really* knows what someone else is doing...and possibly in
conjunction with EIS? The only way of REALLY finding out is
to...'get up close and personal', which I consider a tad...shall we
say...invasive? Hence I won't do it, I'd rather quietly draw my own
conclusions and just settle for reading between the lines.
I agree, there are many more variables, more unknown details that
nobody thinks to question.
If asked at the time, I would not have thought either one
significant. Live and learn, LOL.
sol
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Re: CS Use of copper---
No, it's not the going to the bathroom that has anything to do with liver spots--it's an overloaded liver that makes them show up in the skin. So a liver cleanse is needed. But a person should be going to the bathroom regularly BEFORE a liver cleanse is started, to make sure the toxins from the cleanse is removed from the body. So what this means is that your liver is in good condition and your husband s is dealing with an overload of toxins. Which means he could use a liver cleanse. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- --- Hmm...my husband is as regular as clock-work at least twice a day and has loads of 'liver' spots, whereas I can go for days without 'going' and have none! dee
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At 06:14 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote: I thought 'liver/age' spots were caused by lack of selenium and sun damage? dee Well, mine have never faded like this before, it IS winter and they may darken again in the summer, but they used to remain quite dark year round, though admittedly darker in summer. I have had very many, very dark and large on the backs of my hands for many years now. I even had a couple of them treated by freezing by a plastic surgeon, when he was freezing off some little warty things. I have a good intake of selenium, which I have actually lowered very recently due to info posted by Ode, so time will tell. Months from now, when I am happily wandering around the yard working in the garden, I will try to remember to update about them. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
Thanks Samala. dee On 23 Feb 2010, at 17:21, Renee wrote: No, it's not the going to the bathroom that has anything to do with liver spots--it's an overloaded liver that makes them show up in the skin. So a liver cleanse is needed. But a person should be going to the bathroom regularly BEFORE a liver cleanse is started, to make sure the toxins from the cleanse is removed from the body. So what this means is that your liver is in good condition and your husband's is dealing with an overload of toxins. Which means he could use a liver cleanse. Samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
Ooh, I've done it again! I mean thanks Renee! dee On 23 Feb 2010, at 17:21, Renee wrote: No, it's not the going to the bathroom that has anything to do with liver spots--it's an overloaded liver that makes them show up in the skin. So a liver cleanse is needed. But a person should be going to the bathroom regularly BEFORE a liver cleanse is started, to make sure the toxins from the cleanse is removed from the body. So what this means is that your liver is in good condition and your husband's is dealing with an overload of toxins. Which means he could use a liver cleanse. Samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
Yeah, but now you can nyana-nyana your husband because you don't need the liver cleanse. :-) Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Ooh, I've done it again! I mean thanks Renee! dee
Re: CS Use of copper---
SO if I have just one spot on my face for several years and that means that I need a liver cleanse do I just get one from Sun Harvest? Cathy In a message dated 2/23/2010 11:04:46 A.M. Central Standard Time, gaiac...@gmail.com writes: Thanks Ode. I've thought about taking, not so much colloidal copper as ormus copper. But as I said, it's not a priority and I haven't done it yet, even years after hearing the (almost) dead doctor lecture. So it may be years before I bother with it. I'm just simply always curious, and store the information that I hear. And remarks set the gears into motion again--like when the other person here mentioned making colloidal copper-I wondered if I could do it with your machine--which made me wonder if copper was missing in our diets--which made me remember the copper/hair thing. And so it goes. Questions and more questions. :-) Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Isn't that dead doctor guy dead yet? He was a glacier water ' ground up rock' MLM salesman. You can't go by what salesmen say, even if partly true, every person is unique and extremely complicated.
Re: CS Use of copper---
You have to be VERY careful with copper supplementation because it it only needed in trace amounts. It can kill if too much is ingested. dee On 21 Feb 2010, at 23:04, Leslie wrote: No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and a voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee - Original Message - From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: Re: CS Use of copper--- In a message dated 2/21/2010 5:05:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leslie1...@windstream.net writes: Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie I haven't read about copper use yet either... Is it used in combination with CS (EIS) ? Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
meters don't work at all with colloidal copper. ode At 05:04 PM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote: No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and a voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee - Original Message - From: mailto:zzekel...@aol.comzzekel...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: Re: CS Use of copper--- In a message dated 2/21/2010 5:05:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mailto:leslie1...@windstream.netleslie1...@windstream.net writes: Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie I haven't read about copper use yet either... Is it used in combination with CS (EIS) ? Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
Yes..but probably not with the newer regulated 24 volt power supplies. You need at least 27-28 volts at the electrodes which an unregulated 100+ milliamp 24 volt supply will deliver @ the Pups current load..the Pup is good to 36 volts in AC or DC. Unregulated power supplies are becoming more and more rare as an energy saving thing and are even illegal in some places now as switching power supplies take over. using less copper and waste less power. #10 house wire is pure by industry standards and will plug right in...but don't push it in too far or you can penetrate a vapor seal and short the board. 3/8 max or just until the wire is grabbed and held. Conductivity never goes over around 3 uS so the Auto Off won't work, nor does a meter...and current control is pointless. You'll get the same results with 4 nines and a couple of lengths of wire. [Or plug 4 nines into a Pup to get the voltage if the OEM supply doesn't deliver it] The only way you can tell you made CC is by the TE and you can't tell how strong. Shelf life is about 2 weeks as it oxidizes to a green/grey sediment. Copper is a micro-nutrient that has to be well regulated if you want to have a nervous system. It shares an elimination system with Silver, thus could decrease Silver elimination rates should there be too much Copper which the body MUST eliminate to avoid damaging the nervous system. GOOGLE Copper Toxicity [Some of the symptoms could be mistaken for Autism and too much Copper could also slow down the elimination of Mercury for a double whammy ] It is very common in the environment and in foods and only rarely needs supplementation for that reason. Copper is added to many skin creams to [supposedly] enhance Collagen production. Copper [And Zinc] kills germs as well as Silver [yes..and Mercury ] and works somewhat better on fungi, but, unlike Silver that has no functional biological niche, it can be quite toxic, though not likely so as it is quite closely regulated by -almost- EVERY bodyor elsebeing actually hard to avoid, you won't survive in most environments. Copper, like Silver, has an affinity for damaged nerve tissues even in the brain, [GOOGLE Cupro-silver staining] but unlike Silver [except at enormous doseages], Copper can actually DO that damage. Careful there. Ode At 05:42 PM 2/21/2010 -0600, you wrote: Ode, does this mean if I put copper wire in the Silver Puppy it will make colloidal copper? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and a voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
Thanks Ode. Considering I've had your puppy for, oh, 4 or 5 years now, I'm assuming the regulator wouldn't be one of the energy savers. I was just wondering if it was possible to make CC. Not that I'm interested because I already know, as you say, it can be toxic at higher doses--and how does a person tell if they are at a too high dose? Blood test I suppose, but since we don't even have a family doctor, we'd be hard pressed to get a blood test for it. I have often thought about just buying a bottle of CC and trying it simply because of the 'dead doctors don't lie' guy. I heard him talk once and he said anyone with grey hair has a copper shortage. Since I greyed in my 30's I've often thought about trying the CC for this, but since I'm in my 50's now, and still haven't, you can tell how important it is to me. :) Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Yes..but probably not with the newer regulated 24 volt power supplies. You need at least 27-28 volts at the electrodes which an unregulated 100+ milliamp 24 volt supply will deliver @ the Pups current load..the Pup is good to 36 volts in AC or DC.
Re: CS Use of copper---
Just some info for anyone who would like to know, you can join www.lef.org for 75 dollars a year and order your own bolld work and other lab tests for your self and your family through labcorp labs for a very reasonable amount and their lab techs will gp over the result;ts with you, (of course this is for informational purposes, only) and then you can bring copies to your GP if you like to go over the tests with you. we do this at least once a year. HTH Blessings, Karen Conrad - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: Re: CS Use of copper--- Thanks Ode. Considering I've had your puppy for, oh, 4 or 5 years now, I'm assuming the regulator wouldn't be one of the energy savers. I was just wondering if it was possible to make CC. Not that I'm interested because I already know, as you say, it can be toxic at higher doses--and how does a person tell if they are at a too high dose? Blood test I suppose, but since we don't even have a family doctor, we'd be hard pressed to get a blood test for it. I have often thought about just buying a bottle of CC and trying it simply because of the 'dead doctors don't lie' guy. I heard him talk once and he said anyone with grey hair has a copper shortage. Since I greyed in my 30's I've often thought about trying the CC for this, but since I'm in my 50's now, and still haven't, you can tell how important it is to me. :) Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Yes..but probably not with the newer regulated 24 volt power supplies. You need at least 27-28 volts at the electrodes which an unregulated 100+ milliamp 24 volt supply will deliver @ the Pups current load..the Pup is good to 36 volts in AC or DC.
Re: CS Use of copper---
It should, although copper oxidizes pretty quickly from what I have heard so after a few days it will look like something the witches of Eastwick brewed (pretty turqouise green though). Marshall Renee wrote: Ode, does this mean if I put copper wire in the Silver Puppy it will make colloidal copper? Samala, Renee /---Original Message---/ No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and a voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Renee Copper supplements are indeed small 3 mg elemental Cu, not much is needed. You might try a supplement, very inexpensive. I expect colloidal would be a small dose by definition. A short trial of a few months perhaps? Chuck Chocaholic Mom Has Sugar-Coated Baby. (Named Candy, of course) On 2/22/2010 10:12:05 AM, Renee (gaiac...@gmail.com) wrote: Thanks Ode. Considering I've had your puppy for, oh, 4 or 5 years now, I'm assuming the regulator wouldn't be one of the energy savers. I was just wondering if it was possible to make CC. Not that I'm interested because I already know, as you say, it can be toxic at higher doses--and how does a person tell if they are at a too high dose? Blood test I suppose, but since we don't even have a family doctor, we'd be hard pressed to get a blood test for it. I have often thought about just buying a bottle of CC and trying it simply because of the 'dead doctors don't lie' guy. I heard him talk once and he said anyone with grey hair has a copper shortage. Since I greyed in my 30's I've often thought about trying the CC for this, but since I'm in my 50's now, and still haven't, you can tell how important it is to me. :) Samala, Renee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Use of copper---
That's what I thought. Give it a trial. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- A short trial of a few months perhaps?
Re: CS Use of copper---
At 08:12 AM 2/22/2010, you wrote: how does a person tell if they are at a too high dose? I personally just figured it out as a supposition worth trying a remedy for after repeatedly running across mention of symptoms of excess copper that I have had for years. From my notes: excessive intake of copper can cause abdominal pain and cramps, nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, and liver damage. Still for chronic excess copper and copper deficiency, there is some symptom overlap, and you can find lists of those symptoms via online searches. I did read elsewhere an email claiming that liver spots (those dark age spots on hands, etc) can indicate excess copper. And I have to say mine have faded a rather tremendous amount since I began a program of supplements to reduce copper. (I had taken copper for years without taking any zinc). Given what Ode wrote about high levels of copper interfering with silver excretion that could be another reason I have blue moons, along with my then extremely high intake of caffeine. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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[...could be another reason I have blue moons,...]
-They're slowly being eliminated one by one by the looks of it, that's two down
in as many weeks, if I stick around long enough I believe I'll get a 'hat
trick' g.
This appears to throw some *doubt?* on yet another suggestion that EIS alone
caused an issue {innocent until proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt,
isn't that how it goes?}. Not saying it didn't mind...but I'm striking *you*
off my list as well Sol, sorry about that.
This is what I meant a while ago about a person being flooded with a million
questions in response to a 'blanket statement', nobody *really* knows what
someone else is doing...and possibly in conjunction with EIS? The only way of
REALLY finding out is to...'get up close and personal', which I consider a
tad...shall we say...invasive? Hence I won't do it, I'd rather quietly draw my
own conclusions and just settle for reading between the lines.
N.
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:36:47 -0700
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Subject: Re: CS Use of copper---
At 08:12 AM 2/22/2010, you wrote:
how does a person tell if they are at a too high dose?
I personally just figured it out as a supposition worth trying a
remedy for after repeatedly running across mention of symptoms of
excess copper that I have had for years.
From my notes: excessive intake of copper can cause abdominal pain
and cramps, nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, and liver damage. Still for
chronic excess copper and copper deficiency, there is some symptom
overlap, and you can find lists of those symptoms via online searches.
I did read elsewhere an email claiming that liver spots (those dark
age spots on hands, etc) can indicate excess copper. And I have to
say mine have faded a rather tremendous amount since I began a
program of supplements to reduce copper. (I had taken copper for
years without taking any zinc).
Given what Ode wrote about high levels of copper interfering with
silver excretion that could be another reason I have blue moons,
along with my then extremely high intake of caffeine.
sol
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Re: CS Use of copper---
Well dang--I've got grey hair--symptom of not enough copper, and a couple liver spots on my right hand, a symptom of too much copper. What's a lady to do?? ;-) Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I did read elsewhere an email claiming that liver spots (those dark age spots on hands, etc) can indicate excess copper. And I have to say mine have faded a rather tremendous amount since I began a program of supplements to reduce copper. (I had taken copper for years without taking any zinc).
Re: CS Use of copper---
In a message dated 2/21/2010 5:05:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leslie1...@windstream.net writes: Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie I haven't read about copper use yet either... Is it used in combination with CS (EIS) ? Lois
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No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and a voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee - Original Message - From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: Re: CS Use of copper--- In a message dated 2/21/2010 5:05:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leslie1...@windstream.net writes: Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie I haven't read about copper use yet either... Is it used in combination with CS (EIS) ? Lois
Re: CS Use of copper---
Ode, does this mean if I put copper wire in the Silver Puppy it will make colloidal copper? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and a voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee
