Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Timothe Litt wrote: >> >> On 06-Jan-16 10:51, Paul Koning wrote: >>> 4. Disk. Years ago I wrote a program "rstsflx" that can read and write >>> RSTS disk images. It

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 2016-01-08 20:24, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 8, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Clem Cole wrote: I asked our (Intel's) corporate librarians to see if they could find X3.27-xxx and in particular -1969 (the original) and -1978 which was version 3. I agree with Paul, that V3 (-1978) was

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

I asked our (Intel's) corporate librarians to see if they could find X3.27-xxx and in particular -1969 (the original) and -1978 which was version 3. I agree with Paul, that V3 (-1978) was the version that most people implemented. I seems to remember that, VMS started with V2 and upgraded to 3 -

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 2016-01-08 17:05, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Larry Baker wrote: ... I have two copies of the ANSI X3.27 standard: -1978 (version 3) and -1987 (version 4); -1969 was version 1, which I do not have. The version number is written as the last (80th)

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

And.. Looking a bit harder, from the same source, the 1987 version. This communication may not represent my employer's views, if any, on the matters discussed. On 08-Jan-16 14:13, Clem Cole wrote: > I asked our (Intel's) corporate librarians to see if they could find > X3.27-xxx and in

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

I have x3.27-1978. It's about 65 pages. Appendix C lists the differences wrt 1969. I inherited my copy from the implementer of TOPS-10 labeled tapes... This communication may not represent my employer's views, if any, on the matters discussed. On 08-Jan-16 14:13, Clem Cole wrote: > I asked

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

Paul, On 8 Jan 2016, at 11:24 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Clem Cole wrote: >> >> I asked our (Intel's) corporate librarians to see if they could find >> X3.27-xxx and in particular -1969 (the original) and -1978 which was version >> 3. I agree

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

:19 PM (GMT-07:00) To simh@trailing-edge.com Subject Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape On 08-Jan-16 14:44, Larry Baker wrote: Paul, That is correct.  In X3.27-1978 (version 3) and earlier, date fields are 6 characters " YYDDD".  The first character must be a space.  In X3.27-

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 1/5/16 11:38 PM, Will Senn wrote: On 1/5/16 7:14 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Will Senn wrote: All, The simulated paper tape device is very handy to copy text around between a host and simulated environment. My question for the group is,

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > On 5 January 2016 at 20:29, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > By the way, I'm looking for folks to test the TU58 device (TDC) on the > > various > > PDP11 operating systems. I've tested it on VMS and things

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

Johnny, Thanks for the information. Responses inline. On 1/6/16 8:44 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: There is no way to software wise reset the paper tape from the OS. The paper tape is a physical thing. I real life, you would need to actually take the paper tape and "mount" it in the reader, and

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > ... > As for transferring files to and from your RSTS/E system, you do know of > KERMIT, right? Telnet into the RSTS/E system, start a kermit server there, > switch back to your local kermit, and then send/receive

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 1/6/16 9:08 AM, Will Senn wrote: Johnny escribe: As for transferring files to and from your RSTS/E system, you do know of KERMIT, right? Telnet into the RSTS/E system, start a kermit server there, switch back to your local kermit, and then send/receive files to your hearts content.

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 2016-01-06 15:35, Will Senn wrote: On 1/5/16 11:38 PM, Will Senn wrote: On 1/5/16 7:14 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Will Senn wrote: All, The simulated paper tape device is very handy to copy text around between a host and simulated

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > On 06-Jan-16 10:51, Paul Koning wrote: >> 4. Disk. Years ago I wrote a program "rstsflx" that can read and write >> RSTS disk images. It should still be around; if not I should build >> some new kits and supply them to

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 2016-01-07 01:00, Mark Pizzolato wrote: On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Other options could be using a disk with the files on it, setting up tapes, but also, if simh supports it, possibly using the virtual DOS device, that other emulators have, as well as

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

> From: Mark Pizzolato > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:00:19 -0800 > Meanwhile, the 'crude' way to exchange data on most simulators can > actually be done with cut and paste in console or telnet sessions. While I do use c for command lines from time to time, I've never found it

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

You take one day trip to the US and suddenly "Reply Explosion"... Inlined replies/comments to several previous messages in this thread follow: On 6 January 2016 at 10:51, Paul Koning wrote: > I'm not sure what a DOS device is. > The E-11 simulator has a special device

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >> Other options could be using a disk with the files on it, setting up > >> tapes, but also, if simh supports it, possibly using the virtual DOS > >> device, that other emulators have, as well as using DECnet. > >> > > Does the

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 2016-01-07 01:12, Rich Alderson wrote: From: Mark Pizzolato Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:00:19 -0800 Meanwhile, the 'crude' way to exchange data on most simulators can actually be done with cut and paste in console or telnet sessions. While I do use c for command lines

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:00 PM, wrote: >> 1. DECnet. NFT will use the DAP protocol to do file transfer; if you have a >> compatible DAP implementation at the other end that would work. >> DECnet/Linux can do this, I believe. >> >

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

Johnny, On Jan 6, 2016, at 6:03 PM, wrote: > Just a short comment. Linux/DECnet do not play right with RSX. The > development was all done against VMS, and it would appear to have lots > of bugs that were never ironed out.

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2016-01-07 03:08, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >> On 2016-01-07 01:00, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > >>> Meanwhile, the 'crude' way to exchange data on most simulators

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 06-Jan-16 20:52, Larry Baker wrote: > On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:00 PM, > > > wrote: > > I just stumbled upon a Unix utility that writes ANSI tapes > at

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 1/6/16 8:27 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2016-01-07 03:08, Mark Pizzolato wrote: On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2016-01-07 01:00, Mark Pizzolato wrote: Meanwhile, the 'crude' way to

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2016-01-07 01:00, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > Meanwhile, the 'crude' way to exchange data on most simulators can > > actually be done with cut and paste in console or telnet sessions. > > Indeed. That also works. But it is

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 1/5/16 11:08 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: For those curious of the process: Right after the configuring jobs section (where it asks the number of jobs, number of small buffers, and if you want EMT logging) and before loading the system software from tape is the best point I've

[Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

All, The simulated paper tape device is very handy to copy text around between a host and simulated environment. My question for the group is, does RSTS/E 10.1-L support the paper tape device? The documentation is sketchy about it but does make a rare reference to PP: and PR: (help for

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > All, > > The simulated paper tape device is very handy to copy text around between a > host and simulated environment. My question for the group is, does RSTS/E > 10.1-L support the paper tape device? The documentation

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > > > All, > > > > The simulated paper tape device is very handy to copy text around > between a host and simulated environment. My question for the group is, > does

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

On 1/5/16 7:14 PM, Paul Koning wrote: Yes, RSTS does support those. I don't know why Sysgen doesn't ask. It doesn't ask about DECtape, either. Perhaps they are no longer officially supported, but the software should be there and it should work. After running sysgen but before running the