Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-10 Thread Jonathan Welch
To everyone who supplied helpful comments on my problem, and also to those who were having interesting side conversations -- a big thank you. It was so exciting to get networking up and running. My last step was a set console telnet command and thus able to use a real terminal window. Editing

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2019-05-10 02:01, Paul Koning wrote: On May 9, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2019-05-10 01:46, Paul Koning wrote: On May 9, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) wrote: (It's been a long time since I've played with SMAC on wireless. I did get it to work, but it

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 9, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2019-05-10 01:46, Paul Koning wrote: >>> On May 9, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) >>> wrote: >>> >>> (It's been a long time since I've played with SMAC on wireless. I did get >>> it to work, but it wasn't worth the

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2019-05-10 01:43, Paul Koning wrote: On May 9, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Henry Bent wrote: There is such a thing as promiscuous mode for 802.11, though its usage is generally considered to be for harmful purposes and I don't think a discussion of it here is appropriate. It's no more

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2019-05-10 01:46, Paul Koning wrote: On May 9, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) wrote: (It's been a long time since I've played with SMAC on wireless. I did get it to work, but it wasn't worth the pain to me, so I upgraded to DECNET/OSI non-compatibility mode.) IIRC, when

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 9, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Hittner, David T [US] (MS) > wrote: > > (It's been a long time since I've played with SMAC on wireless. I did get it > to work, but it wasn't worth the pain to me, so I upgraded to DECNET/OSI > non-compatibility mode.) > > IIRC, when you start DECNET IV, it

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 9, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Henry Bent wrote: > > There is such a thing as promiscuous mode for 802.11, though its usage is > generally considered to be for harmful purposes and I don't think a > discussion of it here is appropriate. It's no more inappropriate for Wifi than it is for

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Stafford Winters
I successfully configured DECnet over IP using MultiNet.  I'd guess you have MultiNet on another system, with whom you'd like to speak DECnet, so it shouldn't be hard. On 5/9/2019 12:51 PM, Jonathan Welch wrote: It has been a considerable time since I have done any networking work -- would

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Pizzolato
> identify them. > > David > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Pizzolato [mailto:m...@infocomm.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:21 PM > To: Hittner, David T [US] (MS) ; Jonathan Welch > > Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com > Subject: EXT :RE: [Simh] Vax.exe emula

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Larry Baker
gt; Pizzolato mailto:m...@infocomm.com>>, Jonathan > Welch mailto:jhwe...@gmail.com>> > Cc: "simh@trailing-edge.com <mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com>" > mailto:simh@trailing-edge.com>> > Subject: Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 12:52 PM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > It has been a considerable time since I have done any networking work > -- would you get me going in the right direction for setting up NAT on > Windows? There is nothing host specific about this. You get the basics with: sim>

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Jonathan Welch
It has been a considerable time since I have done any networking work -- would you get me going in the right direction for setting up NAT on Windows? On 5/9/19, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: >> I just moved to a wired connection and now am

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Hittner, David T [US] (MS)
[US] (MS) Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 3:20 PM To: Mark Pizzolato ; Jonathan Welch Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: EXT :Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring (It's been a long time since I've played with SMAC on wireless. I did get it to work, but it wasn't worth

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
T [US] (MS) ; Jonathan Welch Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: EXT :RE: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 11:14 AM, David T Hittner wrote: There probably isn't a way to set the host network device's MAC address so that won't get you

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2019-05-09 21:15, Henry Bent wrote: There is such a thing as promiscuous mode for 802.11, though its usage is generally considered to be for harmful purposes and I don't think a discussion of it here is appropriate.  If you want to do such a thing you will need to be careful in your

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Hittner, David T [US] (MS)
tough to identify them. David -Original Message- From: Mark Pizzolato [mailto:m...@infocomm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:21 PM To: Hittner, David T [US] (MS) ; Jonathan Welch Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: EXT :RE: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
19 1:31 PM To: Jonathan Welch Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: EXT :Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success. Good point about walking before running. I'm on n

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Henry Bent
There is such a thing as promiscuous mode for 802.11, though its usage is generally considered to be for harmful purposes and I don't think a discussion of it here is appropriate. If you want to do such a thing you will need to be careful in your selection of a wireless interface, and googling is

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2019-05-09 19:30, Mark Pizzolato wrote: On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success. Good point about walking before running. I'm on npcap 0.994 current as of last night. I turned off DECNET to eliminate one

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
Repeat after me: WiFi is not ethernet... :-) What you are trying to do essentially does not work. simh is essentially trying to set the interface in promiscuous mode, and fake a second mac address on the interface. This works just fine on ethernet, but it does not at all work on WiFi, where

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Pizzolato
nal Message- > From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Mark > Pizzolato > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 1:31 PM > To: Jonathan Welch > Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com > Subject: EXT :Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring > > On T

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success. Good point > about walking before running. > > I'm on npcap 0.994 current as of last night. > > I turned off DECNET to eliminate one source of possible trouble. It would

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Jonathan Welch
I just moved to a wired connection and now am having success. Good point about walking before running. I'm on npcap 0.994 current as of last night. I turned off DECNET to eliminate one source of possible trouble. It would be nice to have it on at some point in the future. sim> sho ver

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 7:00 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > The vms systems on our campus are about to be shut down. My former > boss and I would like to still have access to our files, so I've moved > an image of a vax system disk into simh. > > He is a networking expert and I am no slouch,

Re: [Simh] Vax.exe emulator and Multinet network configuring

2019-05-09 Thread Zane Healy
Have you tried running over a wired connection, rather than a wireless connection? You might also try running SIMH under a Linux VM. Zane > On May 9, 2019, at 7:00 AM, Jonathan Welch wrote: > > The vms systems on our campus are about to be shut down. My former > boss and I would like to