Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

Clem, never found time to comment earlier, but a couple comments below as well. Both on your comments, and others. On 2018-03-29 19:52, Clem Cole wrote: below... On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Henk van de Kamer > wrote: Clem Cole

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

below... On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Henk van de Kamer wrote: > Clem Cole schreef op 25-3-2018 om 23:23: > >> A small suggestion... while you can probably get the 780 to recognize >>> and support a TU58, booting from it may be difficult (I did not find it >>>

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

The procedure in the manual was to boot Standalone Backup via whatever console medium your machine had. When you got an OS update subscription, you paid for the media that fit your machine. Where I worked in the 80s and 90s, we got our VMS on 1600 bpi magtape with Standalone Backup on TU58s for

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

Clem Cole schreef op 25-3-2018 om 23:23: A small suggestion... while you can probably get the 780 to recognize and support a TU58, booting from it may be difficult (I did not find it mentioned in any SDP or other doc). In another post I gave a link which suggested that it could be present.

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Henk van de Kamer wrote: >> If you want to go full realistic, once you’ve got 4.4 running, generate >> your own STABACKIT in the media format you prefer and then repeat the >> install :) > > Hmm, but then you depend on your provided disk. It

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

This all looks fine but as you are using an old version of Simh you will need to add 'set rq1 rx33' to your ini file. The rq1 device will not automatically adjust to the size of the image like it does in newer versions. Also the CS device is called RX in the older version. Didn't try your whole

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

I’ve uploaded a RL02 image of a bootable VMS 4.7 Standalone backup. You can download it using this link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=12USrZnqSRWelSKAWiHipyDs2qZRcuu9b First tried this with the default Debian Stretch package (version 3.8.0) and this gave the familiar segfault found in my

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

This all looks fine but as you are using an old version of Simh you will need to add 'set rq1 rx33' to your ini file. The rq1 device will not automatically adjust to the size of the image like it does in newer versions. Also the CS device is called RX in the older version. The set I had in my

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

On 23/03/2018 17:12, Henk van de Kamer wrote: > > That page I also found. However there disk gave errors and I blamed > that on the different machine. A lot of the tuning also doesn't apply > to the 780. I tried again with an adapted version of your ini: > > load vmb.exe > set cpu idle > attach

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

Jordi Guillaumes i Pons j...@jordi.guillaumes.name HECnet: BITXOW::JGUILLAUMES > On 26 Mar 2018, at 11:35, Wilm Boerhout wrote: > > Clem Cole schreef op 25-3-2018 om 23:23: >> A small suggestion... while you can probably get the 780 to recognize and >> support a TU58,

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

Clem Cole schreef op 25-3-2018 om 23:23: A small suggestion...   while you can probably get the 780 to recognize and support a TU58, booting from it may be difficult (I did not find it mentioned in any SDP or other doc).   The 780 family has a dedicated PDP-11 with RX floppy drives that runs

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

A small suggestion... while you can probably get the 780 to recognize and support a TU58, booting from it may be difficult (I did not find it mentioned in any SDP or other doc). The 780 family has a dedicated PDP-11 with RX floppy drives that runs as the 'front end' for it and boots it. The

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

You do not attach them to "TS". I think you attach them to "TD0" in a simulated 11/750 or maybe just maybe a 11/730. I do not know if they would work on a 11/780 or if 11/780 ever supported booting from TU58. Thanks for clearing that up. I saw a post that TU58 should be supported for the

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

On 23-03-18 16:17, Tim Shoppa wrote: I'm sure those three standalone backup tapes are TU58 images which aren't really "tapes" in the usual SIMH sense of the word. TU58 images are a little more like "disks" in the emulator world. You are correct! See the description were I found them [1, 2].

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

On 23-03-18 16:50, Mike Stramba wrote: I have VMS4 on Win7 running from this page : http://www.9track.net/simh/vax782/ I'm using the win32 executable Vax782 from that page. I haven't tried compiling the 782 on a Linux box yet. That page I also found. However there disk gave errors and I

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

If this is just for a one shot deal, it might be a lot easier to talk someone else into letting you into their VAX instead of dealing with all of this. After installing VMS, which is harder for the older versions, you will still need to install pascal. If this is for a longer term project,

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

If this is just for a one shot deal, it might be a lot easier to talk someone else into letting you into their VAX instead of dealing with all of this. After installing VMS, which is harder for the older versions, you will still need to install pascal. If this is for a longer term project, then

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

: Henk van de Kamer <s...@vandekamer.com> Cc: SIMH <simh@trailing-edge.com> Subject: Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780 Before you go too much farther, I would recommend that you get the latest version of simh: https://github.com/simh/simh A great deal has ch

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

Here's my ini file : attach rq0 vms46sys.dsk attach rq1 vms040stb.rx3 attach ts bb-bt05c-be_vms_v4_4_c1986.tap attach cs vms044mup.rx1 set ma0 enable set ma0 2m attach ma0 vaxmem0 set ma1 enable set ma1 2m attach ma1 vaxmem1 set cpu idle b rq0 /R5:800 On 3/23/18, Mike Stramba

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

I have VMS4 on Win7 running from this page : http://www.9track.net/simh/vax782/ I'm using the win32 executable Vax782 from that page. I haven't tried compiling the 782 on a Linux box yet. Mike On 3/23/18, Tim Shoppa wrote: > I'm sure those three standalone backup tapes

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

I'm sure those three standalone backup tapes are TU58 images which aren't really "tapes" in the usual SIMH sense of the word. TU58 images are a little more like "disks" in the emulator world. You do not attach them to "TS". I think you attach them to "TD0" in a simulated 11/750 or maybe just

Re: [Simh] Install VAX/VMS 4.4 on a simulated VAX-11/780

Before you go too much farther, I would recommend that you get the latest version of simh: https://github.com/simh/simh A great deal has changed since simh 3 and you are likely to run into few issues. Once you have that working, I would suggest you search the archives of the info-vax mailing