[SLUG] ppp up down scripts

2001-05-02 Thread John Ferlito
Can;t work this out from the ppp manpage. I have a script in ip-down.d this would normally be run when the ppp connection is stopped ie via a poff. The question is will it be run if the ppp connection drops out but the demand option is on so ppp is going to try and redial. Or is it only run

Re: [SLUG] Fetchmail setup

2001-05-02 Thread Andy Eager
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Andy Eager So I run fetchmail on my server and have clients (netscape and that other one that I'm not allowed to name) read mail from the server using IMAP also ? Yep; and fetchmail is nice for collecting multiple accounts and delivering to specific users,

RE: [SLUG] ppp up down scripts

2001-05-02 Thread David Kempe
The question is will it be run if the ppp connection drops out but the demand option is on so ppp is going to try and redial. Or is it only run just before pppd exits? Do you mean demand or persist? if you mean demand, surely pppd has to remain resident to detect that interesting traffic is

Re: [SLUG] Fetchmail setup

2001-05-02 Thread Tony Green
* This one time, at band camp, Andy Eager said: When it download a test email, it bombed out after the read saying: SMPT connect to localhost failed Does this mean I need to have sendmail running as well ? Can't it just download the messages on its own and leave them somewhere for me

[SLUG] Quiet Computers

2001-05-02 Thread Secret Squirrel
I am in the process of building a new machine, my current 300mhz system isn't too bad I want something that's a little zippier (Duron 850 or so). My current system is quite loud due to a problem with the power supply unit, this computer will be moved into another room so I won't hear it but it

Re: [SLUG] ppp up down scripts

2001-05-02 Thread John Clarke
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:24:02PM +1000, John Ferlito wrote: The question is will it be run if the ppp connection drops out but the demand option is on so ppp is going to try and redial. Or is it only run just before pppd exits? From pppd(8): /etc/ppp/ip-down A program or

Re: [SLUG] Common mail storage Outlook/Netscape

2001-05-02 Thread Andre Pang
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:35:39 +1000, Andy Eager wrote: Does anyone know of a way to have Outlook Express Netscape mail share messages ? (IE: Have a message read from the POP server by Outlook and readable in both Outlook Netscape, whithout doing the obvious and forwarding / rereading)

Re: [SLUG] Quiet Computers

2001-05-02 Thread Terry Collins
Secret Squirrel wrote: ..snip... The following components all make noise: - power supply fan - video card fan - second case fan (doesn't apply to me) - hard drive (idle hum and r/w ticks) - CPU fan In all cases, a better quality fan will usually solve the problem. There is also

RE: [SLUG] Silly ISP type question [ OT ]

2001-05-02 Thread Bernhard Lüder
http://www.blue.net.au/linux-setup.html You must change the phone number, password and DNS entries appropriate to your connection. Other than that it should work. Bernhard Lüder This electronic mail is solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential or

Re: [SLUG] Simple Graphics with C

2001-05-02 Thread Jim Hague
On 02-May-2001 Andrew Reilly wrote: I've been programming for over twenty years myself, and have been able to avoid the switch from imperative non-window graphics coding to GUI coding by moving to GUI-free embedded work. A Truly Cunning Plan. :-) BTW, I should warn you that I don't do much

Re: [SLUG] ppp up down scripts

2001-05-02 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:43:42PM +1000, David Kempe uttered: The question is will it be run if the ppp connection drops out but the demand option is on so ppp is going to try and redial. Or is it only run just before pppd exits? Do you mean demand or persist? Mu. Demand implies

[SLUG] What pkg contains smtpd

2001-05-02 Thread Andy Eager
OK, I give up- where the hell is SMTP daemon kept ? (ie what rpm package) I found imap OK (got RH 6.2) and did a search on Redhat site only to find 4 matches for smtp (2 of which were fetchmail and two perl script thingies? Am I missing something here? All of the other inet daemons were

Re: [SLUG] What pkg contains smtpd

2001-05-02 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andy Eager OK, I give up- where the hell is SMTP daemon kept ? (ie what rpm package) You have to choose a particular SMTP daemon. One of the following commonly used daemons will suffice (in order of my preference): postfix exim sendmail qmail - Jeff -- Just because I sit

Re: [SLUG] ppp up down scripts

2001-05-02 Thread John Ferlito
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:43:42PM +1000, David Kempe wrote: The question is will it be run if the ppp connection drops out but the demand option is on so ppp is going to try and redial. Or is it only run just before pppd exits? Do you mean demand or persist? if you mean demand, surely

Re: [SLUG] Simple Graphics with C

2001-05-02 Thread Andrew Reilly
Thanks Jim, That discussion has given me a lot of confidence that I _can_ fit the GUI world into my mental framework. Also thanks to Matthew, Mike and Jamie, for their suggestions. On 2 May, Jim Hague wrote: Handling a situation where you have some big slab of computing to do can be tricky

Re: [SLUG] What pkg contains smtpd

2001-05-02 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Andy Eager OK, I give up- where the hell is SMTP daemon kept ? (ie what rpm package) You have to choose a particular SMTP daemon. One of the following commonly used daemons will suffice (in order of my preference): Unless you are talking about the one

Re: [SLUG] Mozilla

2001-05-02 Thread Keith So
Hi Martin, On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 07:22:06AM +1000, Martin wrote: On Tue, 1 May 2001, Michael X Haynes wrote: There are some points against Debian as well though, like for example, the fact that often the only source of a package is the maintainer, and in some cases, like mozilla, the

Re: [SLUG] byolinux

2001-05-02 Thread Andre Pang
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:04:08 +1000, Kevin Saenz wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has tried to building their own Linux? as in the site www.byolinux.org. Or am do I have no life to contemplate something like this :) it looks suspiciously similar to www.linuxfromscratch.org, but

Re: [SLUG] OT: 2Br Unit for Share

2001-05-02 Thread Catie Flick
On 2 May, Andrew Rembrandt wrote: Bandwidth connection? :) hehe... No broadband as yet, but will have soon [ADSL capable, or possibly telstra cable]. [this is the slug list, broadband is a requirement :) ] You can get broadband into a unit? I was under the impression telstra had issues

Re: [SLUG] Debian autobuilder

2001-05-02 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Anand Kumria There are a number of tools, but the only one that seems close to what you are after in the archive is dbuild. I'm not finding it in my unstable archive, so I'm assuming it's on its way out (with debhelper replacing it?)... James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be

[SLUG] problems with monitor settings

2001-05-02 Thread Philip Wicks
hi all i have been running (very successfully) mandrake 7.2 on a 300mg celeron, mainly to use squid in a school network. I wanted to set up a second server with a new 600mHz Celeron with 256mg ram and a 30 mg hard drive. The reason I mention all this is so you know the config that is having

Re: [SLUG] Adding modules RH7.0

2001-05-02 Thread Andre Pang
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:21:22 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: I've done a new installation of RH7.0 (2.2.16-22) and it did nothing about the networking (local cdrom installation). So now I want to add it in. As I understand it, all I needed to do is insmod ne.o, but there are unresolved

[SLUG] yikes! sorry for the old mails

2001-05-02 Thread Andre Pang
i was wondering why my cron tasks weren't running, and sure enough, cron wasn't running at all. after i fire it up, it now decides to send a gigantic backlog of messages. ouch. my apologies. -- #ozone/algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User

[SLUG] Next IntallFest ?

2001-05-02 Thread Adam F. Bogacki
Hi, (1) when is the next InstallFest due ? I rather liked the Macquarie Uni location - fairly central and easy to get to by car with plenty of parking space on a Saturday. (2) I'm currently having trouble logging in to my RH7 drive. When I try I get a repeated message suggesting the boot

[SLUG] Laptop screens

2001-05-02 Thread Secret Squirrel
Little off topic ! :( Could someone please explain the difference in laptop screens ? XVGA UXGA TFT etc etc, What's good and what totally sucks ? (i've seen some poor looking screens on budget Gateway 2000s, are these TFTs ? -- Secret Squirrel

Re: [SLUG] CD Labels, LaTeX Gus

2001-05-02 Thread Geoffrey Robertson
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:17:30AM +1000, Nick Croft wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: A couple of questions have come up regarding CD label creation, and a few regarding LaTeX (mostly due to Gus' dastardly influence)... http://sis.fbm.vutbr.cz/~honza/cdl/ Might

Re: [SLUG] OT: 2Br Unit for Share

2001-05-02 Thread David Kempe
You can get broadband into a unit? I was under the impression telstra had issues with installing it in units... or maybe I'm just delusional I live in a unit and I have ADSL... no problems there. I know people who live/work in units and they have telstra cable as well. Dave -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] OT: 2Br Unit for Share

2001-05-02 Thread Crossfire
Catie Flick was once rumoured to have said: On 2 May, Andrew Rembrandt wrote: Bandwidth connection? :) hehe... No broadband as yet, but will have soon [ADSL capable, or possibly telstra cable]. [this is the slug list, broadband is a requirement :) ] You can get broadband into a

Re: [SLUG] Laptop screens

2001-05-02 Thread Ben Leslie
On Thu, 03 May 2001, Secret Squirrel wrote: Little off topic ! :( Could someone please explain the difference in laptop screens ? XVGA UXGA TFT etc etc, What's good and what totally sucks ? (i've seen some poor looking screens on budget Gateway 2000s, are these TFTs ? afaik XVGA and

Re: [SLUG] problems with monitor settings

2001-05-02 Thread Michael
I am sure you mean 300Mhz and 30GB and 256MB etc right? On Wed, 2 May 2001, Philip Wicks wrote: hi all i have been running (very successfully) mandrake 7.2 on a 300mg celeron, mainly to use squid in a school network. I wanted to set up a second server with a new 600mHz Celeron with 256mg

Re: [SLUG] problems with monitor settings

2001-05-02 Thread Ben Donohue
see if you can get the monitor specs, horizontal and vertical refresh rates, and do a custom monitor install. and select the rates that lie within the specs. also do a very generic 640x480 x 256 colours to start with and work your way up from there. the bios might need setting to pnp all devices

Re: [SLUG] Adding modules RH7.0

2001-05-02 Thread Terry Collins
Andre Pang wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:21:22 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: I've done a new installation of RH7.0 (2.2.16-22) and it did nothing about the networking (local cdrom installation). So now I want to add it in. As I understand it, all I needed to do is insmod ne.o, but

Re: [SLUG] Simple Graphics with C

2001-05-02 Thread Jamie Honan
I promise no more Tcl evangalising, unless someone mentions again an exact thing that is easily done with it. encouragement How do I write code that looks like sauerkraut? /encouragement From http://www.sauerkraut.com: Sauerkraut is: A. Healthy B. Tasty

[SLUG] Linux Windows Integration - Follow Up

2001-05-02 Thread Simon Bryan
Thanks to Andy and Jon and others. The early testing of this system seems to indicate that the best and easiest setup is to have the directories on the Linux system, share them using Samba and then have NT map a drive to them when logging in. As long as the user exists in both systems they can

Re: [SLUG] Quiet Computers

2001-05-02 Thread John Ellis
It may be a power supply issue. If the 12V+ rail is poorly regulated.. the pitch will vary due to changes in FAN speed. Maybe you should fit a better PSU/FAN to your case to solve the issue. Regards John Secret Squirrel wrote: ..snip... The following components all make noise: - power

Re: [SLUG] Linux Windows Integration - Follow Up

2001-05-02 Thread Craige McWhirter
It is possible to have your password on one system too: Use SAMBA as the PDC. Thus spake Simon Bryan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), on 0: means two user lists to manage (but only one password list), but we do this already for AUC and the same data list can be run through scripts on NT and Linux to

Re: [SLUG] Quiet Computers

2001-05-02 Thread Gareth Walters
The case itself can have a noticable effect. Making sure the case is solid (all screws present) and all devices with moving parts are well secured so that the noise/vibration of fans and moving parts is dampened is a good start. The way the motherboard is mounted is important too, as vibrations

[SLUG] Humour @ M$'s expense

2001-05-02 Thread Peter Abbott
Found this little gem. Just thought someone might be interested. FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT OUTLOOK Researchers Shocked to Finally Find Virus That E-mail App Doesn't Like Atlanta, Ga. (SatireWire.com) - Scientists at the Centers for Disease

Re: [SLUG] Humour @ M$'s expense

2001-05-02 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Peter Abbott said: Found this little gem. Just thought someone might be interested. Ah, you must have missed Heracles post entitled MS goofs? only 2 weeks ago, as well as the actual release of this document over a month ago. No, wait, you couldn't have missed

Re: [SLUG] Humour @ M$'s expense

2001-05-02 Thread Tony Green
* This one time, at band camp, Peter Abbott said: Found this little gem. Just thought someone might be interested. FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT OUTLOOK It was mildly amusing the first time it was posted it's just getting tedious

Re: [SLUG] Quiet Computers

2001-05-02 Thread rod
snip There's also one REALLY strange noise that comes from my machine that someone may be able to identify. Whenever I run something that needs heavy use of the processor (or maybe memory, I can't tell) a consistant noise in the computer will change pitch (higher). Why do you suppose I

[SLUG] How to draw geometry in the GIMP

2001-05-02 Thread Peter Rundle
Sluggers, I'm at work and my Gimp Essential reference is at home. How do you do something really simple in the gimp like draw a *straight* line or a nice *round* circle. Is there a pallete tool or somthing? I've looked all over the menu and I just don't get it. Thanks Pete -- SLUG - Sydney

Re: [SLUG] Next IntallFest ?

2001-05-02 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Adam F. Bogacki (1) when is the next InstallFest due ? I rather liked the Macquarie Uni location - fairly central and easy to get to by car with plenty of parking space on a Saturday. We hadn't planned one thus far, but I'm sure we can cook something up. :) I wonder if this is in

Re: [SLUG] Next IntallFest ?

2001-05-02 Thread Ben Leslie
On Thu, 03 May 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Adam F. Bogacki (1) when is the next InstallFest due ? I rather liked the Macquarie Uni location - fairly central and easy to get to by car with plenty of parking space on a Saturday. We hadn't planned one thus far, but I'm sure we can

Re: [SLUG] Next IntallFest ?

2001-05-02 Thread Craige McWhirter
We're planning the next years worth of installfests. The goal is to make them quarterly. There will be a national installfest in August, the previous being in March. There may be one in between. Keep an eye on the list as details will be announced here. Thus spake Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] language jihad

2001-05-02 Thread Ben Leslie
On Wed, 02 May 2001, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, getadog said: I you're going the python route, then go the full monty: www.zope.org. To list a few good points of zope, revision control, it will allow multiple people to work on the site at once. It will allow

Re: [SLUG] language jihad

2001-05-02 Thread Ben Leslie
On Wed, 02 May 2001, Anand Kumria wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 11:21:01AM +1000, Ben Leslie wrote: Let the flame war begin : I want comment on others I'll just give you my ideas about my favourite high level/scripting language. Python (www.python.org) is a nice object

Re: [SLUG] Re: language jihad

2001-05-02 Thread Ben Leslie
On Tue, 01 May 2001, Angus Lees wrote: \begin{Ben Leslie} Python (www.python.org) is a nice object oriented language which I find quite good for most of my needs. I'll outline pros and cons below. Cons: no closures (proper anonymous functions) (yet) I thknk that this is fixed in 2.1

Re: [SLUG] problems with monitor settings

2001-05-02 Thread Del
No perhaps he really wants a 600 millihertz Celeron with 256 milligrams of ram and a 30 milligram hard drive. It'd be nice and portable although somewhat slow (you'd be able to fit it inside an aspirin but with one operation every 10 minutes it really wouldn't deliver the grunt). Del I

[SLUG] Getting a PS2 mouse to work

2001-05-02 Thread Howard Lowndes
I have one mobo with an onboard PS2 connection (the mobo describes itself as a PCPartner - el cheapo I concede) and despite everything I can think of to try, I just cannot get a PS2 mouse to work; serial mouse - no problemo. I know the mouse itself is OK as it works fine elsewhere. I have tried

Re: [SLUG] Getting a PS2 mouse to work

2001-05-02 Thread Tony Green
* This one time, at band camp, Howard Lowndes said: I have one mobo with an onboard PS2 connection (the mobo describes itself as a PCPartner - el cheapo I concede) and despite everything I can think of to try, I just cannot get a PS2 mouse to work; serial mouse - no problemo. I know the

Re: [SLUG] How to draw geometry in the GIMP

2001-05-02 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 11:49:36AM +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: Sluggers, I'm at work and my Gimp Essential reference is at home. How do you do something really simple in the gimp like draw a *straight* line or a nice *round* circle. Is there a pallete tool or somthing? I've looked all

[SLUG] How to kill a mail message in the sendmail queue?

2001-05-02 Thread mikel
Hi guys, I am setting up sendmail on a SUSE machine and I want to kill some messages that are queued. I have looked for the words purge and flush in the sendmail man page but can't see how to kill messages that are queued. I had several that were going to slug-admin that I wanted to kill -

[SLUG] Can't log in to RH7 drive. Ideas ?

2001-05-02 Thread Adam F. Bogacki
Hi, I'm having trouble logging in to my RH7 drive. When I try I get a repeated message before the log-in screen should come up, suggesting the boot program is doing a loop: According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (1094) but seems to have been murdered mysteriously According to

[SLUG] Using Snort - oink oink :-)

2001-05-02 Thread mikel
Hi all, Jeff suggested, over boiled television entrails I think, that snort was a nice program to monitor others attempts at your machine. I have downloaded and compiled snort, and have the default snort.conf file and a few questions. OK it needs to be run as root. Now as I prob wan tot run

Re: [SLUG] Can't log in to RH7 drive. Ideas ?

2001-05-02 Thread mikel
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 03:22:05PM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble logging in to my RH7 drive. When I try I get a repeated message before the log-in screen should come up, suggesting the boot program is doing a loop: According to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already