Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread Ian Tester
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dave Fitch wrote: Hi all, as the subject says, I've switched to a Dlink DFE-530TX pci ethernet card - which I believe is supported but I can't find which module to use. Ugh, I bought one of these card from Harvey Norman. I had scanned through the Ethernet HOWTO and

[SLUG] Mgetty - cannot set controlling tty (ioctl) ??

2001-02-15 Thread Damien Gardner Jnr
Hey All, I'm hoping someone has struck this one before - it's driving me insane! One of our boxes has a modem hanging off it, which one of our management-types dials into We had a small power outage (ok, maybe not so small - half of the western suburbs of canberra were out, according to

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread Rick Welykochy
Herbert Xu wrote: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was hoping to receive a few more contributions! :) OK, can't leave gawk out can we, gawk 'BEGIN { print strftime("%c", 10^9) }' This is really a scripting job. MySQL is handy for

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Ian Tester" It's a RealTek 8139 based card, and isn't worth half the money that D-link is selling 'em for. VIA Rhine, in fact. All I get are timeout errors with both the D-link and another (cheaper) RTL8139 card. And with both 2.2.16 (or whatever Debian Potato r0 comes with)

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread Ian Tester
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Ian Tester" It's a RealTek 8139 based card, and isn't worth half the money that D-link is selling 'em for. VIA Rhine, in fact. No, it's an RTL8139. Looking at the the box again, it's a "DFE-530TX+". Maybe the "non-plus" is a rhine.

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread Dave Fitch
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 08:33:09PM +1100, Ian Tester wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Ian Tester" It's a RealTek 8139 based card, and isn't worth half the money that D-link is selling 'em for. VIA Rhine, in fact. No, it's an RTL8139. Looking at the the box

Re: Markets, was Re: [SLUG] Tekram SCSI Cards

2001-02-15 Thread Heracles
Terry Collins wrote: Heracles wrote: Don't worry. It was a dig at our pro-markets mob that like businesses with their here today and gone tomorrow business plans, so long as they get a good price. I recently purchased a product(new) at the North Rocks Market and Hmm, let me

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Dave Fitch" Unfortunately I keep getting "device busy" messages trying to modprobe/insmod it. Also of concern is that dmesg, messages file, etc don't mention it, the bios pci scan reports it at irq 10 but that's it, /proc/interrupts doesn't list 10 as in use. You might want

Re: [SLUG] majordomo

2001-02-15 Thread John Ferlito
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 06:03:29PM +1100, Alister Waller wrote: anyone got any idea why my majordomo list doesn't work no more?? Looks like your using smrsh as the sendmail shell. This only lets sendmail run programs that live in a certain directory /usr/lib/sendmail off the top of

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Rick Welykochy" MySQL is handy for quick numeric calcs, but giga seconds is messy: Sick puppy. Mind you... echo -e "? echo date('D M j H:i:s Y', 10) . '\n'; ?" | php -q - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- It's

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Jon Biddell
So a lot of smaller companies will innovate to a much higher extend that one large company because each of the companies has their way of doing things. This is what really gets me. We have been standing still or even have been going backwards for years now. I cant even imagine where we might

Re: Markets, was Re: [SLUG] Tekram SCSI Cards

2001-02-15 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:25:16PM +1100, Heracles wrote: So yes, Terry, there may be a few dodgy dealers at some of the markets, but the majority of them are as legitimate as any other business people. I deal almost exclusively with the people I know well and have only ever bought one item,

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Martin
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: 4. Re: the anti-trust case - no-one forced people to buy Windows - they could have used CPM, Unix, OS/2, etc. etc. etc. Windows became the "standard" because people liked it. Not so, a key issue in the anti-trust case was that Microsoft put illegal

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Jon Biddell" people with even a little level of IT knowledge will soon realose what a loosing proposition Windows is in the long term - although there is a need for a "turn key" distro that doesn't let the user into the "guts" of things unless they really REALLY want to go there.

Re: [SLUG] Analogue for QBASIC

2001-02-15 Thread Heracles
Bill Bennett wrote: When I changed to Linux, I was in the process of teaching myself a computer language, viz., QBasic---which is, unfortunately, etc. Has anybody had any experience with a Linux analogue? Someone suggested Chipmunk, but I thought I'd ask about. Any suggestions

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Jon Biddell
At 10:02 PM 15/02/01 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Jon Biddell" people with even a little level of IT knowledge will soon realose what a loosing proposition Windows is in the long term - although there is a need for a "turn key" distro that doesn't let the user into the "guts" of

[SLUG] GUI Warfare

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Jon Biddell" No, where can I see them ? Couldn't find them on M$ site Many apologies for posting these: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/ http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/guide/newlook.asp [ Linked from the front page, Jon! :) ] - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread Tom Massey
5 REM With the recent talk about BASIC being useless 6 REM I just had to demonstrate the utility of BASIC 7 REM in the modern Linux community. 9 LET DAY$="" 00010 LET DATE$="" 00011 LET TIME$="" 00012 LET YEAR=0 00020 GOTO 50010 00030 LET DATE$=" September" 00040 GOTO 00600 00050

Re: : Re: [SLUG] majordomo

2001-02-15 Thread Greg Wright
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 15/02/01 at 21:19 John Ferlito wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 06:03:29PM +1100, Alister Waller wrote: anyone got any idea why my majordomo list doesn't work no more?? Looks like your using smrsh as the sendmail shell. This only lets

Re: [SLUG] GUI Warfare

2001-02-15 Thread Jon Biddell
At 10:49 PM 15/02/01 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Jon Biddell" No, where can I see them ? Couldn't find them on M$ site Many apologies for posting these: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/ http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/guide/newlook.asp [ Linked from the front page,

Re: [SLUG] GUI Warfare

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Jon Biddell" Couldn't see the link - too late I guess...:-( But when I looked at the images - does anyone think these remind you of BOB ? Neh. Bob was a house with a purple jerkoff in it who just pestered you and gave subliminal messages for you to eat herrings with celery. -

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread Rick Welykochy
begin ... upon a time: Rick Welykochy wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ken Yap wrote: That's what I mean by powers of 2. We could have "clock bit 12 changed state" parties. :-) Geek overload detector: RED ALERT! RED ALERT! Scotty: Captain, the computer's holo-matrix is imploding. I

Errata [was: re:re: ReRe: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party]dorka]]

2001-02-15 Thread Rick Welykochy
In the INTERCAL giga-second script V0. , the --help option is incorrect. Replace with this non-patch file: bada-bing -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited "Tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Try Linux" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Ian Tester
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Martin wrote: On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: 4. Re: the anti-trust case - no-one forced people to buy Windows - they could have used CPM, Unix, OS/2, etc. etc. etc. Windows became the "standard" because people liked it. Not so, a key issue in the

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Chris Barnes
They are getting so desperate that they have to produce more than just software. Thats why They've put out their competetor to Sony's Playstation 2, and thats why they released Windows CE...to compete with the Palm Pilot. Soon they will be getting so desperate they will be trying to compete

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Chris Barnes
They are getting so desperate that they have to produce more than just software. Thats why They've put out their competetor to Sony's Playstation 2, and thats why they released Windows CE...to compete with the Palm Pilot. Soon they will be getting so desperate they will be trying to compete

[SLUG] ATO Fails to Deliver on Linux Promise M$ on Crack

2001-02-15 Thread David Sainty
No ECI client for Linux.. (and why do we bother paying them money??) http://linuxworld.com.au/news.php3?nid=472tid=2 M$ on crack.. http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?tag=ltnc Maybe the ATO has been listening to what the Empire has to say about

Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: 4. Re: the anti-trust case - no-one forced people to buy Windows - they could have used CPM, Unix, OS/2, etc. etc. etc. Windows became the "standard" because people liked it. Not true. Microsoft brought pressure to bear against major PC

Re: Errata [was: re:re: ReRe: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party]dorka]]

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Rick Welykochy" In the INTERCAL giga-second script V0. , the --help option is incorrect. GAR! I thought the only penance worthy of my PHP one-liner was to hack something up in INTERCAL. You know that X Files (probably the only one I remember very well) with the dude who has to go

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread David_Fitch
Ian Tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Dave Fitch wrote: mine's not got the "+" sign and appears that it should be the via-rhine driver. Unfortunately I keep getting "device busy" messages trying to modprobe/insmod it. You're sure the driver isn't already loaded or

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread David_Fitch
Ian Tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I work up the courage, I'll take back the D-link and get some nice Intel EtherExpress-100 or Tulip cards from someone else! I've got a "thing" about the Intel Etherexpress cards after all the trouble we had with them at work. I've rabbited on before about them,

RE: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Jill Rowling
I think it was a small BASIC interpreter that ran in a ROM. Which brings us back to the title of the subject, of course... .vbs - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread raster
On 15 Feb, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: - Ian Tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If I work up the courage, I'll take back the D-link and get some nice - Intel EtherExpress-100 or Tulip cards from someone else! - - I've got a "thing" about the Intel Etherexpress cards after all - the trouble we

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread Martin
we now only use 3COM 905B 10/100 cards now and have never had a problem (connecting to Cisco gear). We use Netgear cards here at work and I have mainly D-link ones at home. Never had any problems with either of them (except for the tulip/via-rhine confusion with the 530TX, which was just me

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread David_Fitch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Feb, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: - Ian Tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If I work up the courage, I'll take back the D-link and get some nice - Intel EtherExpress-100 or Tulip cards from someone else! - - I've got a "thing" about the Intel Etherexpress

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread Matthew Dalton
Tom Massey wrote: 5 REM With the recent talk about BASIC being useless 6 REM I just had to demonstrate the utility of BASIC 7 REM in the modern Linux community. [cut] 50050 REM (Yes, I am seeking counselling) Rick Welykochy wrote: [cut] #!/bin/bash STOPTHISTHANG=1

[Fwd: [SLUG] Mgetty - cannot set controlling tty (ioctl) ??]

2001-02-15 Thread Martin
02/13 16:27:41 yS1 cannot set controlling tty (ioctl): Operation not permitted 02/13 16:28:11 # failed dev=ttyS1, pid=32463, got signal 15, exiting putting http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-linux/1997-Aug/1454.html through babelfish.altavista.com gets me this:

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com). You're a very disturbed individual ... Must be time for a couple of assembler versions. The first one is a whopping 1240 bytes. It cheats by hard-coding the length of

Re: [SLUG] what module for dlink dfe530?

2001-02-15 Thread Morrissey
Hi Dave, I've been using Dlink DFE 530TX cards for about 18 months and have many RH 6.1 6.2 installations using the Via Rhine. No probs with any of them. Only issue is that RH while identifying the card correctly under auto detect it then reports unknown driver. However if I specify the

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread Rick Welykochy
John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com). You're a very disturbed individual ... Agreed. It is insane trying to convince a well-informed troup like the Penguinillas that a bash script is

[SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Rick Welykochy
Latest from the "reverse the FUD sideways up America's backsides and they won't notice" department, oops, sorry, latest from Mickeysoft: http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html For the browserless and the lazy, Allchin [M$ O/S chief] said: (*) he's concerned

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread Crossfire
Rick Welykochy was once rumoured to have said: John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com). You're a very disturbed individual ... Agreed. It is insane trying to convince a

Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party

2001-02-15 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 11:28:45AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com). You're a very disturbed individual ... Agreed. It is insane trying to

RE: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Wylie Edwards
his name says it all..ALL CHIN. Wylie Edwards Senior Technician Central Gippsland Health Service Guthridge Pde SALE VIC 3850 Ph: +61 3 5143 8493 Fax : +61 3 5143 8439 Mobile : 0409 854 686 ICQ : 6309168 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
(*) he's concerned that the open-source business model could stifle initiative in the computer industry. (*) Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer What an oxymoric pair of statements. From everything we see, intellectual-property laws and the like are what stifle

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Morrissey
You missed the best part Rick Mr Allchin has declared that M$ now provides FREE Support for their products. "Microsoft provides support to change and develop products based on its operating system software that Linux companies don't, he said. Companies that use Linux in their products then

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Pete Black
Hopefully, his lower intestine will strangle his brain in an effort to save humanity. de Zwart. Around about 1142h 16/02/2001, Rick Welykochy emitted the following wisdom: These are the words of one damn worried high flying MS executive. They border on hysteria, pychosis and a total

[SLUG] Mozilla growling softly at a naive user.

2001-02-15 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, thanks for helping me get Mozilla up and running ! I managed to 'untar' it successfully but could never quite get past that step. I then downloaded the 0.7-10 rpm ... and it seemed to vanish somewhere. I switched from Gnome to KDE, configured it to large Lucidabright with the desert-red

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
(*) he's concerned that the open-source business model could stifle initiative in the computer industry. (*) Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer No, Open Source is just intellectual-property people have chosen to give away. MS can still sell its slop. If it was say...

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread jon
What M$ need to do is get Office, FrontPage, etc (all their crappy, but POPULAR applications) ported to Linux as commercial apps (not necessarily GPL'd) if they want to make money Oh God, I just realised what I said - a Linux version of Outlook...

[SLUG] Moncrieff terminals

2001-02-15 Thread Andrew Francis
Hi all Firstly, I'm not a regular on this list, I'm just dropping in to ask this particular question. My apologies if this violates list etiquette. I'm trying to find information on Moncrieff-branded terminals. Here in WA, they're fairly common in university libraries, however, I've been

OT Windows/Ventura was Re: [SLUG] Anna Kournikova email worm - disinfection

2001-02-15 Thread Michael Lake
Jon Biddell wrote: Where M$ fscked up is when they released Windows 3.0 - originally, Windows was a run-time environment for Ventura (I think - may have been PageMaker). Is that true? I had Windows 1.0 at home (still have the disks) and also had Desqview which was far superior. I thought

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread James Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Rick Welykochy said: (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policy makers to understand the threat. Damn those Open Source Communists, they're a

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Martin
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: (*) he's concerned that the open-source business model could stifle initiative in the computer industry. (*) Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer No, Open Source is just intellectual-property people have chosen to give

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
(*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policy makers to understand the threat. Sounds like cold-war propaganda. Lol. MS are really peeing their pants at the moment.

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Raoul Golan
Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and the winner is: (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. Hmmm... yet another reason to use Linux. :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
The same america that doesnt export strong encryption. Dean Raoul Golan wrote: Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and the winner is: (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. Hmmm... yet another reason to use Linux. :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Howard Lowndes
Not so bad really. At least with Linux you could nobble the email BEFORE it reaches OE. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[SLUG] About those RTL8139 network cards... :P

2001-02-15 Thread Ian Tester
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, I wrote: All I get are timeout errors with both the D-link and another (cheaper) RTL8139 card. And with both 2.2.16 (or whatever Debian Potato r0 comes with) and 2.4.0. Has anyone had any luck with these cards? Oops :P This discussion got me to take another look at the

[SLUG] wvWare

2001-02-15 Thread Simon Bryan
Hi, Is there anybody using or familiar with wvWare or wvHtml who can decipher this for me? I get this when trying to run wvWare from the command line and it also fails from within AUC where I really want to be using it. I have redownloaded and recompiled the source files, still the same error.

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
and the winner is: (*) I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. Did you know Open Source is the american way ? What is more feircly competitive than competeing open source projects. I would cite te animosity between KDE and GNOME developers as a prime example. Well at least

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
Damn those Open Source Communists, they're a threat to true red-blooded Americans. Dont you hate this allusion. Especially, given that communism is 1 one that controls everything and decides what is best for the masses. Which is much more redmond (maybe they built there becasue of the red

[SLUG] Getting an internal PCI modem to run under Linux

2001-02-15 Thread carl
Hello sluggers, I was given a Netcomm PCI modem the other day by a friend and was keen to try it out under Linux. Needless to say I haven't had much luck and it seems that from what I can read up about PCI modems at the modem HowTo found at:

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jason Rennie
among the most successful that has ever been. I think Australian's find that "American Way" stuff really wierd sounding, but I bet it sounds quite patriotic and honourable to many Americans. What would you expect from a nation that gave us, nuclear weapons, mcdonalds and vanilla ice ;) Jason

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Raoul Golan
Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damn those Open Source Communists, they're a threat to true red-blooded Americans. Dont you hate this allusion. Especially, given that communism is 1 one that controls everything and decides what is best for the masses. Which is much more redmond

[SLUG] ipmasqadm - port forwarding

2001-02-15 Thread Chris Stokes
Greetings all, I am having port forwarding trouble. I have checked through the archives and I think I am doing everything right. I have chopped my config back yo the basics but still no luck. This is what I am using Echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Ipchains -F Ipchains -P input accept

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Dean Hamstead
In communism everything is owned by the state, then is given out as needed. Sounds like MS. They buy everything, then let you have it in restricted user license packages. The only difference is Russia made lots of cool stuff and achieved alot of cool things, auto-play is just annoying ;) Dean

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Jason Rennie" Dont you hate this allusion. Especially, given that communism is 1 one that controls everything and decides what is best for the masses. *sigh* Autocracy, yes. Oligarchy, maybe. Communism, no. Which is much more redmond (maybe they built there becasue of the red

Re: [SLUG] Microsoft Executive Says Linux Threatens Innovation

2001-02-15 Thread Morrissey
A little closer to home they are claiming that "Business Runs Better on M$". And are about to spend $$M. to preach that in the media. The preachings of Chairman ??? - perhaps they could publish them on a little red PDA. http://www.microsoft.com/australia/directaccess/agilityresources.asp