Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 20:14, David Fitch wrote: So I'm stuck with 56k dialup and a satisfiying feeling when everyone elses broadband connection plays up ;-) yep me too! only other option is DoV ISDN or a satellite add-on to the 50k modem. (there's rumours of Internode doing wireless out my way but I get the feeling that's not going to happen immediately) plug sydneywireless.com sydney.air.net.au. Get your fast downloads for free. Become a mirror and help someone else. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
So I'm stuck with 56k dialup and a satisfiying feeling when everyone elses broadband connection plays up ;-) gratitous_plug disclaimer=I don't work for or have any other association with this mob I've got ADSL from a mob called Connexus at home for around $85/month including 300MB of download. Speed is 256K down and 64K up but if you want to pay more you can get up to 1.5Mb However the real neat trick with this mob is that they give you a real world ip address. Actually four addresses on a 255.255.255.252 sub-net. (network, modem, your 'puter, b'cast). Connexus will even second your DNS for you so you can host your own .au domain without Melb IT barfing at the lack of a secondary. And they seem pretty tech savy. Dunno where they got all the IP addresses from but hey, works for me. /gratitous_plug Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 17:34, Tony Green wrote: I contacted telsra to find out if I could get ADSL. As I don't have a land line (I use orange cdma phones), they gave me the useful response of We can't tell you if you can get ADSL until you have a phoneline. very similar to me. I've got an Onramp Home Highway service. Same deal, they won't tell me even if my exchange supports ADSL cos I don't have a standard PSTN line for them to test. They won't even do the test on my neighbour's line. I'm supposed to revert back to a single PSTN line, get the test done, if ok, apply for ADSL, if not ok, pay another $200odd to get the ORHH put back on. I found out that the exchange is ADSL ready and so ordered a phoneline, $200 later Telsra tell me that the rim in the building won't support ADSL. well I'm pretty sure my exchange doesn't support ADSL. Everything else is ok; distance and plain copper pair (it was a pairgain line, we were swapped to a clean pair during the ORHH install). So I'm stuck with 56k dialup and a satisfiying feeling when everyone elses broadband connection plays up ;-) yep me too! only other option is DoV ISDN or a satellite add-on to the 50k modem. (there's rumours of Internode doing wireless out my way but I get the feeling that's not going to happen immediately) Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: OT datafast? (was Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet)
I've used them back home in Western Victoria (where they started), both on a modem and later on a satellite. No fancy setups, so linux worked fine, and I think if you talk to the right person you can get help if you need it. It was a pretty good setup for a country ISP, especially compared to the competition available there, I don't know how they stack up against all the extra options you have in the city, but worth looking into Rob (also with dingoblue and searching) David Fitch wrote: while we're on the subject of linux friendly ISPs... anyone got anything to say about Datafast? (www.datafast.net.au) I'm considering a perm modem connection with them. Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
Jim Clark (Compaq) wrote: ADSL runs over standard phone lines (from local exchange to customers house/unit/cave). Ace. As Jill and I are avid cavers (we went to Jenolan Caves last weekend) we shall have to look into that :-) Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER = This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. = -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
Tiwari, Rajnish wrote: Hi Folks, Thanks to all who replied to my earlier query regarding Linux friendly ISP's. Has anyone has had any experience with using Optus's dial-up networking with Linux ? Are there any issues with using their service and linux ? I presume they too don't say they support linux but is there enough information to get oneself setup ? (The reason, I ask about optus is that currently their sales guys are roaming our streets offering phone, internet tv packages. I thought I investigate my options ... :-) Thanking you in anticipation. I had a optus permanent dial-up connection (static IP, 24x7) up till about 9 months ago. No problems using that with linux. However, if they are selling phone/net/tv packages, wouldn't that net connection be via their cable service? -- Cheers, Jim. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
My experiences with Optus have been pretty good, and they aren't scared of linux. YMMV. On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Tiwari, Rajnish wrote: Hi Folks, Thanks to all who replied to my earlier query regarding Linux friendly ISP's. Has anyone has had any experience with using Optus's dial-up networking with Linux ? Are there any issues with using their service and linux ? I presume they too don't say they support linux but is there enough information to get oneself setup ? (The reason, I ask about optus is that currently their sales guys are roaming our streets offering phone, internet tv packages. I thought I investigate my options ... :-) Thanking you in anticipation. Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
Hi, ::However, if they are selling phone/net/tv packages, wouldn't that net ::connection be via their cable service? :: Actually, I did ask something similar to the salesperson ... who said that a single cable comes into the house that gets split up into the phone line and the tv. Didn't ask further .. as my aim was to determine whether or not I would have to re-wire the telephone line thoughout the house. (Didn't want to have to replace all phone wiring when there is a perfectly good telstra lines to various rooms) Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Tiwari, Rajnish wrote: Has anyone has had any experience with using Optus's dial-up networking with Linux ? Are there any issues with Yes, no problems. The important thing is that they use normal standards. Just about everybody except AOL is fine. There is no official Linux support - and who can blame them with all the different options and distros that Linux offers. However dingoblue has a help page for Linux, and they are an optusnet reseller. http://k9.dingoblue.com.au/linux.html Get it quick as they are shutting down. -- The human race is faced with a cruel choice - work or daytime television -- Dave Barry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 10:22:33AM +0800, Mike Holland wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Tiwari, Rajnish wrote: Has anyone has had any experience with using Optus's dial-up networking with Linux ? Are there any issues with Yes, no problems. The important thing is that they use normal standards. Just about everybody except AOL is fine. There is no official Linux support - and who can blame them with all the different options and distros that Linux offers. However dingoblue has a help page for Linux, and they are an optusnet reseller. watch out though as Dingoblue (and hence optus I gather since I don't think there's anything special with the hardware/connection for dingoblue versus optusnet customers) block inbound ports 25 and 80 (and possibly others). This means you can't run your own web or mail server (well not on standard ports or not without some trickery). Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
watch out though as Dingoblue (and hence optus I gather since I don't think there's anything special with the hardware/connection for dingoblue versus optusnet customers) block inbound ports 25 and 80 (and possibly others). This means you can't run your own web or mail server (well not on standard ports or not without some trickery). What about Optus's Cable and DSL services. Anyone know if they block ports which are used in popular video conferencing software(NetMeeting, Gnome Meeting) or telephone software? What about ssh, is that port blocked? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:49:21AM +0900, Antony Stace wrote: What about Optus's Cable and DSL services. Optus Cable has been wonderful. (Un?)arguably, the best out of all the broadband services. Reliable, fast, and somewhat expensive -- but not even approaching some of the prices of the ADSL services for what you get. Anyone know if they block ports which are used in popular video conferencing software(NetMeeting, Gnome Meeting) or telephone software? Optus block port 80 and 139, which shouldn't really affect you. If you _really_ need to run a webserver at home, you can always run a https server (port 443). They may block a few more since I've last checked, but I think that's it. What about ssh, is that port blocked? No. Keep in mind that you are not meant to run services on your computer, though, and ssh is strictly speaking considered a service. (One person on this list has had his account suspended or terminated because of this ...) So if you are going to go with Optus, be smart and firewall up your box very tightly. Optus have been rumoured (verified?) to portscan occasionally, although this policy may change now that Optusnet is managing them, rather than Excite@Home. Be sensible; firewall off everything and run those 'essential' services (i.e. ssh) on non-standard port numbers. For the service that you get, it's a small price to pay. -- #ozone/algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
What about Optus's Cable and DSL services. Is there a website somewhere that lists the suburbs where Cable is available, both Optus and Telstra. I just looked on the Optus site and the only way to see if a suburb has Optus Cable is to type in the postcode. The postcodes I tried didn't have Cable access :(, so I am looking for a general site which says which suburbs have it, anyone know of such a list? Cheers Tony _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
You have to give them a call and ask them. If you live in a unit, chances are they won't be able to provide cable service to your home. -Original Message- From: Antony Stace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I just looked on the Optus site and the only way to see if a suburb has Optus Cable is to type in the postcode. The postcodes -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
You have to give them a call and ask them. Will do. If you live in a unit, chances are they won't be able to provide cable service to your home. Is there any one who has Cable/DSL to a unit/apartment? If so who is the providor? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Andre Pang wrote: Optus block port 80 and 139, which shouldn't really affect you. If you _really_ need to run a webserver at home, you can always run a https server (port 443). Thats not needed. Unlike many services, its trivial to use a different port for HTTP, by putting the port number in the URL. You could even use a re-direct. -- The human race is faced with a cruel choice - work or daytime television -- Dave Barry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
Antony Stace wrote: You have to give them a call and ask them. Will do. If you live in a unit, chances are they won't be able to provide cable service to your home. Is there any one who has Cable/DSL to a unit/apartment? If so who is the providor? ADSL runs over standard phone lines (from local exchange to customers house/unit/cave). As such, provided your local exchange is ADSL equiped (most of them by now?) and you satisfy the conditions (proximity to exchange, line quality,etc), you can pretty much take your pick of ADSL ISPs. Disclaimer: I don't actually have a unit - but I did pull hair out for 12 months waiting for the exchange to be fitted for ADSL , so had plenty of time to look into it (and then when Telstra did outfit the exchange, I decided against using Telstra for the service... never regretted that move :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Optus Dial-Up Internet
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 17:47, Jim Clark (Compaq) wrote: ADSL runs over standard phone lines (from local exchange to customers house/unit/cave). As such, provided your local exchange is ADSL equiped (most of them by now?) and you satisfy the conditions (proximity to exchange, line quality,etc), you can pretty much take your pick of ADSL ISPs. Pretty much accurate, but I wanted to share my little experience too. 12 months ago I moved into a new block of units. There was SUPPOSED to be a 'broadband' ISP doing all the connectivitiy (so no foxtel). The ISP went pop and we were left high and dry. I contacted telsra to find out if I could get ADSL. As I don't have a land line (I use orange cdma phones), they gave me the useful response of We can't tell you if you can get ADSL until you have a phoneline. I found out that the exchange is ADSL ready and so ordered a phoneline, $200 later Telsra tell me that the rim in the building won't support ADSL. So I'm stuck with 56k dialup and a satisfiying feeling when everyone elses broadband connection plays up ;-) -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel : +61-(0)2-9500-9996 Mobile: +61-(0)4-2521-9996 GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
