[sniffer] Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]WeightGate source, just in case...

2006-06-08 Thread Matt
Pete, My understanding was that Declude treats different arguments to an executable as just being other forms of that executable so it only processes it once.  I'm not positive one way or another.  It's worth testing though. Matt Pete McNeil wrote: Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2006,

[sniffer] Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]WeightGate source, just in case...

2006-06-08 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Pete, Thursday, June 8, 2006, 9:42:42 AM, you wrote: > Hello Pete, > Thursday, June 8, 2006, 9:41:55 AM, you wrote: >>> It does look a little weird. Sometimes it's normal though. I'll see if >>> I can identify anything odd in the settings. >>> _M >> I've changed the settings. I hope th

[sniffer] Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]WeightGate source, just in case...

2006-06-08 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Pete, Thursday, June 8, 2006, 9:41:55 AM, you wrote: >> It does look a little weird. Sometimes it's normal though. I'll see if >> I can identify anything odd in the settings. >> _M > I've changed the settings. I hope this response works ok. > _M Testing. Sorry for the extra trafic - on

[sniffer] Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]WeightGate source, just in case...

2006-06-08 Thread Pete McNeil
> It does look a little weird. Sometimes it's normal though. I'll see if > I can identify anything odd in the settings. > _M I've changed the settings. I hope this response works ok. _M -- Pete McNeil Chief Scientist, Arm Research Labs, LLC. ###

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]WeightGate source, just in case...

2006-06-08 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 11:52:56 PM, you wrote: > Pete, > Just two more cents for the masses... > If people use this for two different external tests in Declude, they > need to create two differently named executables because Declude will > assume the calling executable to be par

[sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Markus Gufler
Von: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von MattGesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2006 00:58An: Message Sniffer CommunityBetreff: Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions Pete,I think that you just broke Scott's record w

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
>It is unclear - we receive FPs that have traveled through all sorts of >clients, quarantine systems, changed hands various numbers of times, >or not (to all of those)... Right now I don't want to make that >research project a high priority. Understood. >That's true it wouldn't change, but submit

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 7:26:48 PM, you wrote: >>Unfortunately, by the time the message gets to us it is sometimes just >>different enough that the original pattern cannot be found. There are >>some folks who consistently have success, and some who occasionally >>have problems, and

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
>Unfortunately, by the time the message gets to us it is sometimes just >different enough that the original pattern cannot be found. There are >some folks who consistently have success, and some who occasionally >have problems, and a few who always have a problem. Different in what way? Is the ma

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andrew, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 6:59:52 PM, you wrote: > > > (sniff) Aw, cut it out, Matt. > >   > > You're making me all weepy. > >   > > p.s. Pete, that's pretty darned amazing! Well,... I was interrupted by kids, crazy house contractors, nosey neighbors, phones, IM, and, w

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:14:02 PM, you wrote: > > > Oh, I assumed the rule had been removed.  Are you saying there was > a rule in place, but the FP processing somehow failed to find it?  > If so, I'd say that is a major failing on the part of the FP processing. > >   >

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
Awesome. Great job, Pete. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Message Sniffer Community" Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions Hello Matt

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
PM Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests? Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:09:27 PM, you wrote: >>That would be a bad idea, sorry. After 30 days (heck, after 2) spam is >>usually long-since filtered, o

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
iffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions Pete,I think that you just broke Scott's record with his two hour feature request with your own a two hour program :)Anyone remember those days???Thanks,MattPete McNeil wrote: Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:09:27 PM, you wrote: >>That would be a bad idea, sorry. After 30 days (heck, after 2) spam is >>usually long-since filtered, or dead. As a result, looking at 30 day >>old spam would have a cost, but little benefit. > You misinterpreted what I was saying.

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:05:28 PM, you wrote: > Uh, but the D file contains mime segments corresponding to attachments. That's ok. SNF looks inside those, and w/ the FP scanning software inside the rfc822 atachment also. It's not perfect, but the majority of the time it does pi

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Matt
Pete, I think that you just broke Scott's record with his two hour feature request with your own a two hour program :) Anyone remember those days??? Thanks, Matt Pete McNeil wrote: Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 4:22:05 PM, you wrote: Pete, Since the %WEIGHT%

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 4:22:05 PM, you wrote: > > Pete, > > Since the %WEIGHT% variable is added by Declude, it might make > sense to have a qualifier instead of making the values space > delimited. I don't want to mix delimiters... everything so far is using spaces, so it

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
ay of tests and scriptable filters we've come to rely on. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Message Sniffer Community" Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:09 PM Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP sugges

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
>> This also got me thinking of the flip side, spam reporting. There's a >> significant untapped load of spam that sniffer doesn't fail that we filter. >> I was thinking about creating a filter to copy your spam@ address with >> messages that get moved to our archive (we archive held spam for 30 d

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
>> Can I interpret this as email address and matching source IP are sufficient >> if the correct email address is used to submit? >Yes. Ok, so the answer to my original suggestion is yes. Great. > If not, do you have any suggestions on how you would like to see us > inserting the license ID in

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
7;m glad I stuck with it.   Andrew.     From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:22 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions Pete,Since the %WEIGHT% v

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Matt
Pete, Since the %WEIGHT% variable is added by Declude, it might make sense to have a qualifier instead of making the values space delimited.  Errors in Declude could cause values to not be inserted, and not everyone will want to skip at a low weight.  I haven't seen any bugs with %WEIGHT% sinc

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 3:37:36 PM, you wrote: > > Pete, > > An X-Header would be very, very nice to have.  I understand the > issues related to waiting to see if something comes through, and > because of that, I would maybe suggest moving on your own. I've got it on the lis

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Matt
Pete, An X-Header would be very, very nice to have.  I understand the issues related to waiting to see if something comes through, and because of that, I would maybe suggest moving on your own. Sniffer doesn't need to be run on every single message in a Declude system.  Through weight based s

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Scott, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 10:08:58 AM, you wrote: > > > For me the pain of false positives submissions is the research > that happens when I get a "no rule found" return. > >   > > I then need to find the queue-id of the original message and then > find the appropriate Snif

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 7:49:37 PM, you wrote: > This also got me thinking of the flip side, spam reporting. There's a > significant untapped load of spam that sniffer doesn't fail that we filter. > I was thinking about creating a filter to copy your spam@ address with > messages t

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 8:44:26 AM, you wrote: > Hi Pete, > Can I interpret this as email address and matching source IP are sufficient > if the correct email address is used to submit? Yes. > If not, do you have any suggestions on how you would like to see us > inserting the lic

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Darin Cox
;Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Message Sniffer Community" Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 7:31:29 AM, you wrote: > > > The one issue with this I have is > >

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 7:31:29 AM, you wrote: > > > The one issue with this I have is > >   > > 1) Forward full original source to Sniffer with license code. > > If we could do it without the license code, it would be much > easier to automate on our end.  I already ha

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-06 Thread Darin Cox
ssed for FPs. Thoughts? Darin. - Original Message - From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Message Sniffer Community" Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:29 PM Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests? Hello Matt, Tu

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello John, Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 7:25:33 PM, you wrote: > > > > My thought is they are either building a db of valid names or testing > delivery techniques. I've got a few theories on this... but the most likely is that this is just another one that got away from them. There are se

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt, Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 12:37:56 PM, you wrote: > appropriately and tend to hit less often, but the FP issues with > Sniffer have grown due to cross checking automated rules with other > lists that I use, causing two hits on a single piece of data. For > instance, if SURBL has an FP

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Jonathan Hickman
Because a small amount of weight is added, it is still sufficient for tilting the scales on more occurrences than other image types. - Original Message - From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Message Sniffer Community" Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:44

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Concerned about amount of spam going through

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andrew, Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 11:44:46 AM, you wrote: > David, > Are you using the free version of sniffer? Or did you deliberately > change your .exe name in your posting to sniffer.exe to hide your licence > number? > I certainly expect that the rulebase lag with the free version will

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick, Thanks. That's all good then :-) _M Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:46:55 AM, you wrote: > > Pete McNeil wrote: > > Hello Nick, > What is your false positive rate with that pattern? > > Hmm lets go to the MDLP for yesterday  :) > >                                       

Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Nick Hayer
Pete McNeil wrote: Hello Nick, What is your false positive rate with that pattern? Hmm lets go to the MDLP for yesterday  :)                                            SS   HH  HS  SH   SA            SQ REGEX.STOCK.BODY    331    0    0    66    0.667506   0.445565 COMBO.STOCK_PNG   16

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Jonathan, I urge caution from experience... png images are not entirely rare, and the cid: tag format in the regex is also common. I'd love to be wrong - but I recall false positives with similar attempts in the past. Is there more to this than the two elements I just described - something

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick, What is your false positive rate with that pattern? _M Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote: > Hi Markus - > Markus Gufler wrote: >>There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image) >>this morning passing our filters. >> > I am catching these fai

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Peer-to-Peer, That's a good point. Any kind, perhaps by category. I was originally thinking of just RBLs of various types. Thanks, _M Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 9:46:01 AM, you wrote: > Hi _M, > Do you mean like reverse PTR records, or HELO lookups, etc..? > --Paul R. > -Original M

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Spam Storm - It's a big one.

2006-05-26 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Bonno, Friday, May 26, 2006, 10:41:11 AM, you wrote: > Hi Pete, >> Watch out for today's spam storm -- it's a lot bigger than we've seen >> in a long while. 48 hour image attached. > This has low priority but. I've tried to find a live version of that > graph you've sent but I cannot

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Spam Storm - It's a big one.

2006-05-26 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello andyb, Friday, May 26, 2006, 8:16:02 AM, you wrote: > Hi Pete, > Could you be so kind as to include the legend with the graph? > Otherwise, there are 3 lines that don't mean anything because they are > undefined. Sorry for the confusion... The three lines are all for the same data, but a

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Ebay Phishing Emails getting through

2006-05-18 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andrew, Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 5:35:36 PM, you wrote: >> Certainly, submitting samples to spam@ (or preferably your >> local spam submission point polled by our bots) will put >> these messages in front of us if we have not already created >> rules for them. > I've just manually submi

[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Ebay Phishing Emails getting through

2006-05-17 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Daniel, Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 3:07:38 PM, you wrote: > I've gotten one myself. > The pharmacy ones, are still coming through too for that matter. Here is what the latest wave has looked like from here (attached image). You can see, starting about 24 hours ago a jagged, but fairly regu

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Chuck Schick
It is not slowing down out here. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:32 AM To: Darin Cox Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread John T (Lists)
OTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:09 AM > To: John T (Lists) > Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer > > We've had that rule before and had to pull it for false positives. > > _

Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Pete McNeil
We've had that rule before and had to pull it for false positives. _M On Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:41:50 AM, John wrote: JTL> FYI, I created a Declude Filter: JTL> Subject END NOTCONTAINS news JTL> BODY25 CONTAINShttp://geocities.com/ JTL> Been catching every on

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Darin Cox
I thought it had been a bit quiet of late . Appreciate the efforts, Pete. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darin Cox" Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through snif

Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:02:00 AM, Darin wrote: DC> Not just drugs, but some others too have been slipping through the past DC> couple of days. We've reported a little under 40 in the past couple of DC> days. We saw a bit of a lull, then a rash of new campaigns bunched together with some new o

Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, May 5, 2006, 10:49:06 AM, Kevin wrote: KS> I have been getting them here also and have forwarded some to KS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] KS> I guess to get past the filters the spammers misspell key words throughout KS> the email with new web links. It is misspelled so badly that I cannot reall

Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Pete McNeil
There are several, new, fast moving campaigns. We're working on new abstracts for this. Thanks, _M On Friday, May 5, 2006, 10:37:37 AM, Daniel wrote: DB> Here too. DB> -- DB> Daniel Bayerdorffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DB> Numberall Stamp & Tool Co., Inc. DB> PO Box 187 Sangerville, ME 04479 USA D

Re[2]: [sniffer] Message loop

2006-04-20 Thread Pete McNeil
Yes, I'm sorry. I'm still working on that with the back-end server guys over there. I am getting your messages though. Please ignore the jsmith bounces for now. I will keep on them. Thanks! _M On Thursday, April 20, 2006, 12:11:25 PM, Scott wrote: SF> Still happening when I reply to false posit

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] False positive processing

2006-03-21 Thread Darin Cox
; To: "Darin Cox" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] False positive processing On Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 11:37:30 AM, Darin wrote: DC> Nope. None of them. DC> I haven't heard back from the replies to a couple of false positives on the DC>

Re[2]: [sniffer] False positive processing

2006-03-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 11:37:30 AM, Darin wrote: DC> Nope. None of them. DC> I haven't heard back from the replies to a couple of false positives on the DC> 10th, and we haven't heard anything from our submissions on the 16th (6) and DC> 17th (2). I don't remember if we've heard anything f

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Web Site!

2006-03-17 Thread John T (Lists)
; To: John T (Lists) > Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Web Site! > > On Friday, March 17, 2006, 11:53:58 AM, John wrote: > > JTL> What is the purpose of using a WIKI site? > > A few things really - > > * It's fast and easy to create, update, and correct the co

Re[2]: [sniffer] New Web Site!

2006-03-17 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, March 17, 2006, 11:53:58 AM, John wrote: JTL> What is the purpose of using a WIKI site? A few things really - * It's fast and easy to create, update, and correct the content. Things happen quickly here and in the messaging security business in general. It makes sense to use tools that

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] New RuleBot F002 Online

2006-03-13 Thread Darin Cox
"Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darin Cox" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] New RuleBot F002 Online On Friday, March 10, 2006, 3:41:00 PM, Darin wrote: DC> Totally agree. I'd like to see some separation between rules create

Re[2]: [sniffer] New RuleBot F002 Online

2006-03-13 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, March 10, 2006, 3:41:00 PM, Darin wrote: DC> Totally agree. I'd like to see some separation between rules created by DC> newer rulebots and preexisting rules. That way if there becomes an issue DC> with a bot, we can turn off one group quickly and easily. There is no way to do this w

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] F001 Rule Bot Change

2006-03-09 Thread Scott Fisher
hursday, March 09, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] F001 Rule Bot Change On Thursday, March 9, 2006, 10:04:17 AM, Nick wrote: NH> Hi Pete, It's a bit too early to know about the reliability of F001. NH> Understood - sorry I was not clear on this :) NH> I was referring to

Re[2]: [sniffer] F001 Rule Bot Change

2006-03-09 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, March 9, 2006, 10:04:17 AM, Nick wrote: NH> Hi Pete, >>It's a bit too early to know about the reliability of F001. >> NH> Understood - sorry I was not clear on this :) NH> I was referring to all your tests eg: printers, snake oil, what NH> have you. which one do you have the most c

Re[2]: [sniffer] F001 Rule Bot Change

2006-03-09 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, March 9, 2006, 8:48:43 AM, Nick wrote: NH> Hi Pete - NH> Pete McNeil wrote: >>Hello Sniffer Folks, >> >> The F001 Rule Bot has been adjusted. >> NH> Is it possible for you to recommend a percentage of accuracy or maybe NH> better stated a percentage of delete weight for each rule

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-08 Thread Support Traction IT
281965 Could this please stop, sniffer was pretty reliable for us, but not at the moment. Regards, Marcel Sangers Traction IT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: dinsdag 7 maart 2006 0:18 To: Darin Cox Sub

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] declude tests

2006-03-07 Thread Harry Vanderzand
CTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:28 PM > To: Harry Vanderzand > Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] declude tests > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 6:20:04 PM, Harry wrote: > > HV> I guess I am not understanding something here after all this time > &g

Re[2]: [sniffer] declude tests

2006-03-07 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 6:20:04 PM, Harry wrote: HV> I guess I am not understanding something here after all this time HV> So as I understand I leave the persistent word out of the declude config and HV> just run the service? YES. :-) The instances launched by Declude will recognize that the

Re[2]: [sniffer] declude tests

2006-03-07 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 5:35:05 PM, Harry wrote: HV> I put in the detailed tests as below. HV> HV> When the nonsero single test runs I get items trapped with a HV> score of 7 by sniffer however when I turn it off and activate4 the HV> detailed once I do not get a hit at all on the detailed te

Re[2]: [sniffer] New rulebase compilers online.

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, March 6, 2006, 6:09:43 PM, Matt wrote: M> Pete, M> Does this mean that you are somehow supporting incremental rule base M> updates, or is it that the compiler is just much faster so we will get M> the same number of updates, but generally get them 40-120 minutes M> earlier in relatio

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Darin Cox
Thanks, Pete. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darin Cox" Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001 On Monday, March 6, 2006, 3:42:50 PM, Darin wrote: DC> We just reviewed

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
day, March 06, 2006 3:18 PM > To: Darin Cox > Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001 > > On Monday, March 6, 2006, 3:42:50 PM, Darin wrote: > > DC> We just reviewed this morning's logs and had a few false > positives. > DC> Not sure if these are due to the n

Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, March 6, 2006, 3:42:50 PM, Darin wrote: DC> We just reviewed this morning's logs and had a few false positives. Not DC> sure if these are due to the new rulebot, but it's more than we've had for DC> the entire day for the past month. DC> Rules DC> -- DC> 873261 DC> 866398 DC>

Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, March 6, 2006, 3:13:53 PM, Jay wrote: JSHNL> There's been at least one FP ;) JSHNL> -- JSHNL> Rule - 861038 JSHNL> NameF001 for Message 2888327: [216.239.56.131] JSHNL> Created 2006-03-02 JSHNL> Source 216.239.56.131 JSHNL> Hidden false JSHNL> Blocked fal

Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer, MDLP, and invURIBL?

2006-02-25 Thread Pete McNeil
On Saturday, February 25, 2006, 1:38:53 PM, Joe wrote: JW> JW> JW> I would actually prefer that MDLP autotune the weight for JW> invURIBL, but since the weights are managed by invURIBL and not JW> Declude I don't know how this will work. I'm not familiar enough with invURIBL to know how it

Re[2]: [sniffer] Running sniffer as a service

2006-02-24 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, February 24, 2006, 7:13:47 AM, Jeff wrote: JP> Do I need to modify anything in my Declude configuration file where it calls JP> the SNIFFER test in order for this to function ?? No. You set up a persistent instance outside of Declude and the other SNF instances adapt automatically. _M

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-23 Thread Jeff Robertson
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rick Robeson > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:23 PM > To: sniffer@SortMonster.com > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] When to go persistent > > I thought you had to run this as a service? > > Rick Robe

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-23 Thread Rick Robeson
er.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] When to go persistent Pete, > To run in persistent mode, simply launch an instance of SNF from the > command line with the word "persistent" in place of the file to scan. > > .exe persistent > I am calling Sniffer from Declude. Could

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-23 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Pete, > To run in persistent mode, simply launch an instance of SNF from the > command line with the word "persistent" in place of the file to scan. > > .exe persistent > I am calling Sniffer from Declude. Could I just later my statement in my config file to include persistent? That way the fi

Re[2]: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-23 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, February 23, 2006, 11:53:51 AM, LLC wrote: JISL> I'm investigating the persistant mode and read the info on the web site. JISL> Can't make heads or tails of it. JISL> How do enable persistant mode on a Windows 2003 Server? The web site speaks JISL> hypothetically, but the informati

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction?

2006-02-21 Thread Darin Cox
. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction? Hi Pete, I agree that the email notification is tricky - because you might respond to spa

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction?

2006-02-21 Thread Scott Fisher
I like this idea more than the email notification. I really don't need more emails. - Original Message - From: "Andy Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction? Hi Pe

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction?

2006-02-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:04 AM To: Andy Schmidt Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction? On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 10:16:11 AM, Andy wrote: AS> Sorry - didn't mean t

Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction?

2006-02-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 10:16:11 AM, Andy wrote: AS> Sorry - didn't mean to be "pushy". I just thought that false positives are AS> worse than missed spam, so I had assumed that they would always be at the AS> top of the queue. It is a very tough balancing act. Don't feel bad at all - you'

Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positives

2006-02-15 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 4:48:43 PM, Computer wrote: CHS> I second the motion. We have been submitting spam for over a year and I CHS> don't know if a single one was received. In general, if you've not received an error during delivery, we most certainly got your message... it may have e

Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positives

2006-02-15 Thread Pete McNeil
Jim, Not at this time. The two processes are entirely different. The False Positives process is highly interactive. The standardized responses were implemented to allow for some automation on both sides. Spam submissions are always treated as anonymous for security reasons and also because of the

Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positives

2006-02-15 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 4:32:14 PM, Robert wrote: RG> The X-SNF header. Sounds like a good idea. Is there a cheat sheet someplace RG> for making that happen, if possible, in a Declude / Imail environment? RG> Thanks ahead of time, In the distribution the option is described in the .cfg

Re[2]: [sniffer] [Fwd: Diann Helms]

2006-02-15 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 11:02:11 AM, Bonno wrote: BB> Hi Pete, BB> [] >> If you wish, it is possible to create a local black rule for any >> geocities link. On many ISP systems this would cause false positives, >> but on more private systems it may be a reasonable solution. >> BB> I

Re[2]: [sniffer] Max Evals Error

2006-02-13 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Pete, PM> It is theoretically possible for too many evaluators to be spawned, PM> but highly unlikely. Most of the time, fewer than 100 are generated. PM> It's ok for this to happen, but it is noteworthy. PM> I will look for any rules that make this more likely than usual. I have a monit

Re[2]: [sniffer] question on xhdr files

2006-02-08 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 1:32:05 PM, David wrote: >> The .xhdr files are created by SNF and can be turned off in SNF's .cfg >> file. They contain text that could be added to the headers of the >> message to help debug false positives and/or to trigger other >> filtering systems. >> DP> Wel

Re[2]: [sniffer] problems!!!!

2006-02-08 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 11:06:07 AM, Markus wrote: MG> If a experimental rule showed to be reliable they move them in MG> the appropriate category (rich, fraud,...) MG> MG>   MG> MG> I'm not sure about this but I think it's so and so it shouldn't MG> be necessary to do something like

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] problems!!!!

2006-02-08 Thread Filippo Palmili
What is the correct Sniffer string in Declude Global.cfg file. SNIFFER external nonzero "d:\imail\declude\sniffer\sniffer.exe code"12   0 of SNIFFER external nonzero "d:\imail\declude\sniffer\sniffer.exe code"10   0 Thanks Filippo

Re[2]: [sniffer] Message sniffer in FreeBSD & Postfix

2006-02-08 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 11:00:05 AM, Ali wrote: AR> I for one would like to see it incorporated. What Peter's take? The SNF v2 engine is open source for precisely that purpose, and in general so that the SNF engine can be incorporated into any similar projects. I can't spare the cycles r

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] problems!!!!

2006-02-08 Thread Darin Cox
ust before that, and unfreeze once it was clear that no glut of false positives would result. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darin Cox" Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:13 AM Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] problems!!!

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] problems!!!!

2006-02-08 Thread Harry Vanderzand
Thank you Pete Harry Vanderzand inTown Internet & Computer Services 519-741-1222 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:09 AM > To: Markus Gufler > Su

Re[2]: [sniffer] problems!!!!

2006-02-08 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 10:59:09 AM, Darin wrote: DC> I have an idea.  These problems seem to stem mostly from changes DC> in the methods of handling rulebase updates. DC> Would it be feasible to announce in advance when such changes DC> are to be implemented?  With advance notice of

Re[2]: [sniffer] problems!!!!

2006-02-08 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 10:48:10 AM, Markus wrote: MG> MG> MG> Harry, MG> MG>   MG> MG> (please don't post your entire license code to a public list.) Yes, Harry, please don't. I'll be resetting your Authorization code and sending it to you off list. Other than changing your au

Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 7:54:10 PM, John wrote: JC> So, in my terms (simple), this rule only catches msg if the two drug names JC> are in that order and in all capitals, but not necessarily one immediately JC> following the other? That was close to the original intent. The rule would also

Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Pete, Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 7:43:52 PM, you wrote: PM> The rule would match the intended spam (and there was a lot of it, so PM> 22,055 most likely includes mostly spam. On spot check I'm seeing about 30-40% of the messages are valid. PM> Unfortunately it would also match messages co

Re[2]: [sniffer] Downloads are slow.

2006-02-07 Thread Pete McNeil
I've had an internal note that our colo provider is working on a networking problem. That's probably what you're seeing. Apparently it doesn't effect all paths to the 'net equally and/or it may be solved by now. _M On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 5:53:35 PM, John wrote: JC> Agreed, my last report

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread John Carter
Final\t828931 and Final.*828931 both found 850 entries in my current log using Baregrep. John C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:12 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread Landry, William (MED US)
CTED] On Behalf Of David Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:12 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931 Hello Matt, Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 6:27:25 PM, you wrote: M> rule number, and I don't have the tools set up or the knowledge of M> grep

Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Matt, Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 6:27:25 PM, you wrote: M> rule number, and I don't have the tools set up or the knowledge of grep M> yet to do a piped query of Sniffer's logs to extract the spool file names. http://www.baremetalsoft.com/ is a great grep'er for windows. In BSD I always use

Re[2]: [sniffer] Downloads are slow.

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Somebody please tell me I'm doing something wrong here. I use this expression in Baregrep "Final\t828931" and it yields 22,055 matching lines across 3 of my 4 license's log files. Since this is set to my hold weight, I'm assuming that means I've had 22,055 holds on this rule? -- Best regards, D

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