As others I'm disappointed that Soekris is so silent on this issue,
especially if the root cause doesn't come from a broken bios/PCB
design/...
Building something reliable and with good support using Soekris hardware
is lottery. Plain and simple.
Sometimes Soren tells just fairytales, FYI:
is there anybody in here willing to donate a net6501 device to the dev
team of pfSense? Several owners of net6501 boards, including myself,
started facing more and more problems with pfSense lately
This is where proud company owner may step in and donate board to devs.
Period.
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I then brought the unit over to my lab bench and hooked it up to my variable
power supply.
But then something magical happened at 5v, 3 of the network leds (the three that had been in use prior to the failure) lit up.
And so that's where I’m at. Kind of out of ideas, and not sure of how
For some reason GRUB does not like my CF card. Very odd.
I bet that GRUB is not a problem this time. Grub is an multistage
bootloader and when bios reports some really odd geometry, grub may just
give up (fails to load second stage).
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Christopher Hilton kirjutas:
hw.sensors.nsclpcsio0.temp1=127.00 degC (Remote)
which creates a situation that I want to remedy. My choices are:
Buy a Rackmount soekris case and install a fan
Replace this box with something that's got a little more power like a
Net6501
www.routerboard.com
AMuse wrote:
Bad form, Alvar.
Thanks for kind words. I tried to collect some links before answer. So
here it is.
1) NiMH battery and 6501
http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2012-February/018149.html
After half of year...
One concern I have is this Debian Squeeze installation ftp site becoming
obsolete and discarded.
My questions is how do I download all packages, build my own install
site and live in a vacuum?
http://archive.debian.org/README
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But result are same: grub hangs.
Someone has the solution?
This grub second stage hang is happened with net5501 too sometimes (but
not always).
After repartitioning CF card (small msdos boot partition) and using
syslinux as loader at least net5501 boots everytime. net6501 uses
comBIOS,
Andrea Borghi kirjutas:
supported packages (i expect grub-legacy will be dropped anytime soon)
Probably not and Grub v1 (legacy) debian package maintaining continues.
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy.html
http://wiki.debian.org/Grub
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The Linux VT6105M driver has interrupt race problems, reported to have
2D13 has same ethernet chip. Just FYI - i have 10+ Alix boards, all
without this sort of problems. Just used net5501 boards simply because i
need 4 or 5 LAN interfaces, Alix is limited to 3 (i don't count usb
NIC-s as real
The net5501 have 4 ethernet ports, 1 Mini-PCI slot and 2 PCI expansion
slots each with 4 interrupt lines. Therefore the 4 interrupt pins on the
Geode LX need to be shared along the possible devices. PCI Interrupt
sharing is part of the PCI specification and should in principle not be
an
Do you use eth0? If yes, try not using it. The VT6105M of eth0 shares
its power supply pins and capacitors with the mini PCI interface.
This is the reason i obtained net5501-s - need for more than 3 ethernet
NIC-s on router, _real_ NIC-s, and not those vlan capable 5 port
internal smart
As I have stated before, afaik the net5501 do not have any design
issues, Attila's problem is most likely either software related,
Please, can you explain, why similar board from PCEngines (Alix 2D13)
with same software (OpenWRT image) just works, but Soekris board shows
some unstability?
Lars Noodén kirjutas:
I'm trying to install Debian on a net5501 and regardless of whether I
try to get squeeze, wheezy or sid, the same error pops up:
The installation process detects network hardware fine (eth4: Realtek
How can I get around this error?
Remove disk from net5501, and just
Soren Kristensen writes:
testing Intel's code is pretty old so it have been though a LOT of
comBIOS ver. 1.41a 20111203 Copyright (C) 2000-2011 Soekris Engineering.
1024 Mbyte MemoryCPU Atom E6xx 1000 Mhz
SATA AHCI BIOS ver. 0.6 20110902 Copyright (C) 2003-2011 Intel
Btw, did you get that newer Linux version running that seems to fix the
net5501 unstability and wifi problems you claimed is caused by bad
power supplies ??
Even when Attila Kinali and i share same initials, we are different
people, in different countries, thousands of kilometers appart
Sorry I mixed you up, you just sounded like him
You can't even apologize without being ironical.
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P.S. Sent PM yesterday, just to keep fight away on list. I and Attila
tried to explain net5501 problems, you take it and turn to personal
attack. Thank you to be such .
Soren Kristensen writes:
The Transcend mSATA boards when coming from the manufacturer is not
compatible with the mSATA standard, so until they get it fixed
seems to be incompatible SATA drive,
SATA code is from Intel so we can't do much there.
Looks like blaming other
No aluminum cases in business installs please,
He might have a point, though. Proper grounding and a case able
to magnetically shield things (such as iron) can make all the
difference between the electronics surviving or not.
Direct lightning strike to will kill electric equipment anyway,
GPIO support for net5501 in Linux kernel.
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-geode/2011-December/000267.html
Was that directed at my post?
No. This post is primarly for saying thanks to Philip, just without
starting another net5501 thread. Still important for Soekris users.
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http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-geode/2011-December/000267.html
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Soren Kristensen kirjutas:
Hi Attila,
You wrote in the old email:
3) The PC87366 has three fan controllers, but none of these pins are wired to
a connector. Interestingly though, some of the joystick pins are, but not
all, which renders them totally useless. So there is no way to have
Alan kirjutas:
I have to admit though that I never reported this to sa...@soekris.com
before, I just posted my findings in this mailing list, that's why I'm
CCing them now.
Soren Kristensen:
As it says on the soekris website, technical questions should be
directly to sa...@soekris.com,
Mouse kirjutas:
And afaik, WLAN problem like yours usually turns out to be driver
issues, [...]
Interesting that the very same card works in a different PC with the
[H]ence the same drivers is an unwarranted leap. It may be the same
of the system which probably aren't using the same
Philip kirjutas:
IDE harddisk,
The problem is that if I put the CF card in the slot the net5501 won't
boot from the harddisk,
HDD Master/Slave settings? Anyway, i'm not sure that CF and IDE HDD can
be used simultaneously at all. SATA + CF combination works.
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Net6501 and case on my desk and looking at the
2.5 drive mounting bracket and asking why is that drive mounting
bracket needed at all?
As we all probably know, case design is not a stronger part of Soekris
team at all (constant overheating issues, HDD mounting over PCB, which
adds another
my hands The net7501 is going to reuse a lot of building blocks
from the net6501, to be launched sometimes in Q2'2012, and the price
will be reasonable.
Can we all hope this time documentation will be available when boards
are in full production? Yes, i point to net5501 nonexisting user
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-486
root=UUID=47512b1a-4abc-46a2-97f3-0b8152d43d87 ro verbose
However the boot process remains non-verbose:
add console=ttyS0,19200n8
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Btw, about specific router/firewall optimized distros - Linux based
OpenWRT works nicely at least on net5501.
www.openwrt.org
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We have only taken the net 5501 up to around 20MB, throughput - will you
get more through it?
Alix 2d13 (same 500Mhz Geode LX chipset, even same VIA VT6105M network
chips), used as nat/firewall box, WAN downlink 100Mbit, up 20Mbit.
Measured with 3 different methods (webbased speedtest.net,
http://files.asymptotic.co.uk/kernel_config.config
404
LILO config:
root = /dev/sdb1
append = ... root=/dev/hda1
Where is your root partition _in reality_? Remove one of confusing root=...
Looking from kernel output (Cannot open root device hda1) one
suggestion is to change root to
Kernel config should have been
#CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD is not set
CONFIG_IDE=y
CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y
CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y
Ok, from this - probably /dev/hdX is right. Anyway, for Soekris nt5501 i
then recommend turning on CS5536 companion chip support, for now your
config shows #
Does somebody modify such case to add additional cooling? I don't
somebody have good non-trivial ideas how to add cooling without
adding ugliness to device?
Cannibalizing old laptop cpu/northbridge fan is maybe an option, they
are designed to blow on side. Just for idea:
Chris Galle kirjutas:
Well, there you go, the Alix case is Aluminum.
So the entire Alix case is acting like a heat sink.
I can do subjective test by touching with hand and my assertion is that
net5501 CPU is usually warmer than Alix CPU under similar load, even
without case. Why, i don't
Anyone using Openwrt (trunk) on the net5501?
about your experiences using the net5501 subtarget.
I finished up with compiling kernel separately for finetuning (inclusion
of PC87366 module, geode watchdog etc).
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This is very well possible. When i got my net5501 i found out that
the case has no thermal design whatsoever and is prone to overheating
even in unloaded conditions (measured 70°C cpu temp when _idle_).
Over all, i do not recommend getting the standard net5501 case as
it is a clear
Stanislav Meduna kirjutas:
What color is the net5501 case? If it is this one
http://soekris.eu/shop/images/net5501_BC_front_big.jpg
All Soekris own cases are same (lime) color.
and Alix one is black in- and outside, that might
well make the difference.
Alix makes 3 colors - plain
Pete Kay kirjutas:
I am trying to have my Soekris board to somehow control a set of 16
LEDs,
What are the components that I can purchase
off-the-shelf for this kind of thing?
Net5501 has 12 general purpose IO pins on JP5, which are accessible from
userspace. But if you need more than
Anyone else have any luck bringing up Openwrt?
Yes, so far Kamikaze 8.09.2 without problems.
With custom kernel (2.6.32.10), but OpenWRT generic kernel must work too.
For bringing net5501 up you don't need gpio stuff (i2c-scx200-acb,
nsc_gpio, pc8736x_gpio or cs5536_gpio) at all, hovewer you
Alvar Kusma kirjutas:
So question remains: How to access SW1 (reset) button state as input pin
from user software? I have some doubts, that 4801 manual here doesn't apply.
Allright, some progress.
Reset button in Soft mode is connected over LPC903 MCU to CS5536 GPIO
25. Latch can
Hello all.
http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2009-December/016234.html
Same problem, this time under linux. I can access PC87366 GPIO pins, but
looks like GPIO47 doesn't even exist on pc87366. About GPIO18 on net4801
- this is SC1100 CPU GPIO port, which not the case with net5501
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