Re: [Softwires] MAP-E 1:1 for HA

2012-11-12 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Yiu, I am not talking about whether a MAP-domain should support 1 or N CEs. What I am trying to say is MAP-E 1:1 requires the BR to know per subscriber information and the operator must pre-provision per-subscriber based rules to every BR in the same domain. In addition, the BR can't use

Re: [Softwires] MAP-E 1:1 for HA

2012-11-12 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
On 2012/11/12, at 11:11, Ole Trøan wrote: Yiu, From my perspective, the argument is not whether two protocols are identical or not. I found MAP-E 1:1 is a stateful solution. I found it odd to make it part of MAP-E which was originally decided a stateless solution. look at it as a

Re: [Softwires] Confirming way forward with MAP-T and 4rd

2012-09-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi Suresh, I am in favor of both. Thanks, Tetsuya On 2012/09/24, at 21:45, Suresh Krishnan wrote: Hi all, During the softwire WG meeting at IETF84 a series of questions* to determine the preferred solution in the meeting room indicated that the sense of the room was in favor of MAP-E as

Re: [Softwires] Call for adoption of draft-mdt-softwire-map-dhcp-option-03 as wg draft

2012-07-20 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Support. - Tetsuya On 2012/07/05, at 21:33, Suresh Krishnan wrote: Hi all, This call is being initiated to determine whether there is WG consensus towards adoption of draft-mdt-softwire-map-dhcp-option-03 as a softwire WG draft. Please state whether or not you're in favor of the adoption

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] draft-ietf-softwire-map-00 does NOT reflect the consensus from the WG

2012-06-27 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi Peng, I think it is just example. In case of this example, I think the standard of OSPF can't allow to use it for only inter-area routing. This standard can also allow to use it within only area 0. I think sometimes multiple solutions could be applied to solve the same problem. In case of

Re: [Softwires] A new consensus opportunity with a MAP-bis

2012-06-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
) ... But this is the implementation/deployment choice. So, from the standard perspective, it might be good to merge H solution to MAP which has already merged both E and T. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2012/06/23, at 1:52, Satoru Matsushima wrote: Dear Remi, Thank you for a kind offer

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] draft-ietf-softwire-map-00 does NOT reflect the consensus from the WG

2012-06-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
. If you are saying that, do you assume how many entries should be existed in the table in order to call it to the state. From the implementation perspective, even though there are 1000 entries in the table, the problem is just how much memory is needed. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2012/06

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] draft-ietf-softwire-map-00 does NOT reflect the consensus from the WG

2012-06-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
implementation does not maintain the state for each entry. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2012/06/25, at 2:27, Tetsuya Murakami wrote: Hi Qi, Even though there are a bunch of mapping rules, each mapping rule has no state. Since each mapping rules is set manually, BR does not maintain each mapping rule

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] draft-ietf-softwire-map-00 does NOT reflect the consensus from the WG

2012-06-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
only. So, our implementation can allow 1:1 as well as N:1. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2012/06/25, at 7:24, Wojciech Dec wrote: Hi, taking a step back to discuss some items in more detail, and hopefully move this discussion forward: 1. Domain size The MAP architecture does not prescribe

Re: [Softwires] Mailing list question to gauge consensus on 4rd-U vs MAP

2012-04-05 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
publish both as standard track. Answering NO to this question means you want to see both advance on the standard track. Tetsuya Murakami, IP Infusion: YES

Re: [Softwires] Path to move forward with 4rd… 4rd-U as transparent as MAP-E

2012-04-03 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
(hubspoke model). Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires

Re: [Softwires] Path to move forward with 4rd…

2012-04-02 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
transport instead of the existing tunneling/translation. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2012/04/01, at 11:02, Satoru Matsushima wrote: After the meeting, I've figured out that 4rd-u define new type of transport, since it adds several new semantics in its packet format with V-octet as a helper

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U informal meeting - Tuesday 15:15 Room 204

2012-03-28 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
of 4rd-u nodes. So then I suggest that remove checksum neutrality function from the document. cheers, --satoru On 2012/03/28, at 0:42, Tetsuya Murakami wrote: Hi Remi, Thank you for having the informational meeting of 4rd-u. I can understand 4rd-u very much. As you mentioned

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-U informal meeting - Tuesday 15:15 Room 204

2012-03-27 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
the packet without any change of the existing IPv6 stack. I think MAP/4rd-u are transition technology and so it is good to eliminate any impact on the existing implementation of IPv6 stack as much as possible. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2012/03/26, at 11:57, Rémi Després wrote: Hi, all, With some

Re: [Softwires] Comments on MAP-E draft

2012-02-29 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
address in case of MAP-E because the derived CE IPv6 address should be the tunnel end-point address on the CE. So, the received packet should be discarded or not processed as MAP-E packet. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami I'm looking forward to your reply~ Best Regards, Qi Sun Tsinghua

Re: [Softwires] MAP documents - next steps

2012-01-31 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Support. It is worth to adopt these drafts as WG drafts. Thanks, Tetsuya On 2012/01/30, at 3:31, Ole Trøan wrote: hi, the MAP (Mapping of address and port) design team has now written and published the following sets of drafts. the base document (port mapping algorithm):

Re: [Softwires] Call for agenda items

2011-11-08 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi Alain and Yong, Could you please assign 10min slot for 4rd encapsulation draft (draft-murakami-softwire-4rd)? Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2011/11/04, at 5:26, Alain Durand wrote: If you want to present during the Softwire meetings in Taipei and you have not yet sent me or Yong a request

Re: [Softwires] Proposed Unified Address Mapping for encapsulation and double-translation

2011-10-11 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
value in the last 64bit of IPv6 destination address. From the developer point of view, I would like to utilize the existing implementation as much as possible. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org

Re: [Softwires] Proposed Unified Address Mapping for encapsulation and double-translation

2011-10-11 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
additional CPU cycles per packet are required at CE in order to embed the full IPv4 address (and port-set id) in the last 64bit of the IPv6 address. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman

[Softwires] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-01.txt

2011-09-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi, We posted an update of the 4rd draft according to Remi's comments. We are very thanking Remi to provide his valuable comments. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami Begin forwarded message: 差出人: internet-dra...@ietf.org 件名: I-D Action: draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-01.txt 日時: 2011年9月24日 16:20:54 GMT

Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011 Sep. 26-27

2011-09-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
good to have Ole and Woj suggested agenda. But I'd like to know what their reasoning for the original agenda. Could you share it with us? +1 The agenda posted by Woj looks good. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami --satoru cheers, Ole 1. Intro, logistics, chairs 2. Stateless IPv4 address

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
, implementation, etc. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2011/09/06, at 22:35, mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com wrote: Dear Gang, As per the following property: o Complexity: Complexity level of the algorithm I agree this can be split into several sub

Re: [Softwires] Call for presentations for the interim meeting

2011-08-24 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi Chairs, We would like to have a presentation for draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00 in the interim meeting in order to discuss about the stateless solution. Please assign a slot for this. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2011/08/22, at 8:37, Alain Durand wrote: As we mentioned earlier

Re: [Softwires] 4rd mapping rule separation

2011-08-19 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
for people, I recommend you to collaborate with your friend. +1 Agreed. We need to discuss about this more. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami cheers, --satoru ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires

Re: [Softwires] are multiple Domain IPv6 prefixes possible?

2011-08-16 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Sorry. I have a typo. The following address has no meaning... Sorry again. Tetsuya Murakami On 2011/08/16, at 21:16, Tetsuya Murakami wrote: Hi Remi, Jacni, We are considering the following situation. Initially, one 4rd mapping rule can be set like {2408:db8::/32, 10.10.0.0/24, 48

Re: [Softwires] are multiple Domain IPv6 prefixes possible?

2011-08-15 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
with the the destination ipv4 address, can be selected. It is stated in section 5.1.1 and section 7 a little bit in the draft. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2011/08/14, at 5:52, Washam Fan wrote: Hi, It seems to me only one domain IPv6 prefix is allowed, per draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00. But I see no issue

Re: [Softwires] Non-extensible static port sets are necessary for direct CE-CE paths

2011-08-05 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
platform in your test ? Did you asked about the forwarding performance? We used netbsd running on arm core cpu (400MHz). The accrual ratio of the latency is just 2 to 5 % under 4rd environment. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami At the same time as other parameters (once in awhile to avoid lifetime

Re: [Softwires] Clarification of the stateles/stateful discussion

2011-08-04 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi Simon, On 2011/08/04, at 5:26, Simon Perreault wrote: On 2011-08-03 16:44, Tetsuya Murakami wrote: So the 900G figure is valid *in theory*, but *in practice* we're stuck with a number of sessions roughly equal to the number of external ports available on the NAT. As I mentioned above

Re: [Softwires] Non-extensible static port sets are necessary for direct CE-CE paths

2011-08-03 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi Remi, Qiong, - For this each CE must know mapping rules for all other CE's. [Qiong]: Agree, especially when applying the co-existence scenario for exclusive-mode and shared mode. Given the fact the IPv4 prefixes are not continuous anymore, there might be up to hundreds/thousands of

Re: [Softwires] Limitation of 4V6 Translation between sites of the same domain

2011-07-19 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
. If these condition of IPv6 source and destination address is not matched, 4via6 CE can process the received IPv6 packets as the normal IPv6 packet. So, I don't think there is no issue which you raised. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami On 2011/07/19, at 9:53, GangChen wrote: Hello Remi, I guess 4V6 CE need

Re: [Softwires] Motivation Analysis for 4via6 Stateless Solutions

2011-05-25 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi, +1. One motivation draft should be fine. On 2011/05/24, at 1:23, Ole Troan wrote: Having said that I saw draft-operators-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation-01 which covers very similar scenarios. I suggest the authors work together and possibly merge their documents. +1. I

Re: [Softwires] sharing restricted addresses by hosts in 4rd (draft-despres-intarea-4rd-01)

2011-04-22 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
to be changed. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires

Re: [Softwires] sharing restricted addresses by hosts in 4rd (draft-despres-intarea-4rd-01)

2011-04-20 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
CPE box, the application can use this private IPv4 address. Thanks, Tetsuya Murakami ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires