Re: [SAtalk] Why does helper-app run mode take 3 seconds
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:37:46AM -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: Would it help do you think if I put the discovery server entries in the hosts file? No. The debug lines showed that the 3 seconds was the amount of time the razor server took to respond with the razor servers you should use. Name lookup isn't the issue here. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: There are all of these warnings and incantations and unnatural rituals and everything's veiled in this threat of you mess with the mayo, the mayo mess with you, man. - Alton Brown, Good Eats, Mayo Clinc pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SAtalk] Why does helper-app run mode take 3 seconds
At 12:15 PM Sunday, 6/15/2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote -= Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 Could this be related to cpu speed or dns or my setup? entering happens when Razor is about to run. Using happens after the result has been received. So the 3 seconds is what it takes to contact the Razor server, send them the query, get the result, and disconnect. That's dependent on a number of things, but typically network speed and how loaded the Razor servers are. I have a dsl connection of 768/384, local dns. I get the same 3 second delay running razor-admin -d --discover Jun 15 09:24:36.408157 admin[11738]: [ 5] Finding Discovery Servers via DNS in the razor2.cloudmark.com zone Jun 15 09:24:39.191490 admin[11738]: [ 6] Found 1 Discovery Servers via DNS in the razor2.cloudmark.com zone Would it help do you think if I put the discovery server entries in the hosts file? Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . Don't let your mouth write no check that your tail can't cash. -- Bo Diddley --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] Why does helper-app run mode take 3 seconds
Does anyone have any ideas as to why it would take 3 seconds to do the following: Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 If I turn Razor2 off, I get times of .5 to 1.5 seconds. Otherwise it's 3 to 4.5. Could this be related to cpu speed or dns or my setup? Inquiring minds want to know ;-) Hi Ed, Check back through the archives for messages from me for an explanation of what it probably is, but to cut a long story short, try adding -H to the end of your spamd options...(also if you use the -u option for spamd, make sure the spamd user account really has a home directory) Regards, Simon --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] Why does helper-app run mode take 3 seconds
At 20:19 15/06/03 -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: At 08:19 AM Monday, 6/16/2003, Simon Byrnand wrote -= Does anyone have any ideas as to why it would take 3 seconds to do the following: Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 If I turn Razor2 off, I get times of .5 to 1.5 seconds. Otherwise it's 3 to 4.5. Could this be related to cpu speed or dns or my setup? Inquiring minds want to know ;-) Hi Ed, Check back through the archives for messages from me for an explanation of what it probably is, but to cut a long story short, try adding -H to the end of your spamd options...(also if you use the -u option for spamd, make sure the spamd user account really has a home directory) Adding the -H to the spamd options had the desired effect for sure! Average processing time was between 3 and 4.5 seconds. Now processing messages .5 to 1.5 seconds. I could not however find the explanation in the archives but did read through the man page for spamd. Am I correct in assuming that by having a home directory specified for the helper-app, it doesn't have to look for one and saves the 3 seconds ?? Jun 15 16:01:19 yoda2 spamd[3543]: debug: entering helper-app run mode Jun 15 16:01:19 yoda2 spamd[3543]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 (Or something like that???) What happens without -H is that when spamd does a setuid() to another user (other than root) the environment variable $HOME which is passed to helper apps like razor is still pointing to root's home directory. Of course razor can't save its files in /root when its running as another user so it has to do its server discovery process for every single message. (which takes 3 to 4 seconds) With -H razor can cache the results of its server discovery and only do it occasionally... If I remember correctly, Theo put a fix for this into 2.60-cvs... Regards, Simon --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] Why does helper-app run mode take 3 seconds
At 03:25 PM Monday, 6/16/2003, Simon Byrnand wrote -= What happens without -H is that when spamd does a setuid() to another user (other than root) the environment variable $HOME which is passed to helper apps like razor is still pointing to root's home directory. Of course razor can't save its files in /root when its running as another user so it has to do its server discovery process for every single message. (which takes 3 to 4 seconds) With -H razor can cache the results of its server discovery and only do it occasionally... Makes sense Do most folks run as a different user or as root? I tried running it as spamd but then realized I'd have to change permissions on all the home directories and haven't take that leap as of yet. If I remember correctly, Theo put a fix for this into 2.60-cvs... I'll look for it on cpan when it becomes available... Thanks again. Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . An excuse only satisfies the person giving it... --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] Why does helper-app run mode take 3 seconds
At 21:07 15/06/03 -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: At 03:25 PM Monday, 6/16/2003, Simon Byrnand wrote -= What happens without -H is that when spamd does a setuid() to another user (other than root) the environment variable $HOME which is passed to helper apps like razor is still pointing to root's home directory. Of course razor can't save its files in /root when its running as another user so it has to do its server discovery process for every single message. (which takes 3 to 4 seconds) With -H razor can cache the results of its server discovery and only do it occasionally... Makes sense Do most folks run as a different user or as root? I tried running it as spamd but then realized I'd have to change permissions on all the home directories and haven't take that leap as of yet. If you have user preferences in their home directories, with file permissions such that those files belong to the user, then you'll have to let spamd switch to the user, as you probably do now. (Or change directory and file permissions) I don't have user home directories, I use the -x and -V options to specify a virtual user preferences directory where the prefs files are all owned by the same user, created by a web based php script, and therefore I run spamd as a fixed, unprivileged user... If I remember correctly, Theo put a fix for this into 2.60-cvs... I'll look for it on cpan when it becomes available... Well don't expect it any time soon, 2.60 is still in heavy development AFAIK... :) Regards, Simon --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
