I use sb_filter from procmail to filter and autotrain
incoming messages which end up on a cyrus imap server.
I then use sb_imapfilter for retraining mistakes. The
problem here is that sb_filter uses the
X-Spambayes-Trained header to indicate how a message was
trained, whereas
I get the same message-id behavior from our Exchange server.
Ah - so do I, I realise now. I was looking just in the headers that
SpamBayes shows in Show Clues, but I see I get the invalid token even
without one showing there. Looking at the tokenizing code, if there is no
message-id header,
I found the property for the Message-ID and added it to the headers.
What you get is the same message-id that an external user would see if
your Exchange server sends the message on via SMTP.
Great :)
I'll try to have a look at some of the others when I have more time,
unless you beat me to
I checked several of my messages with dump_props, and I can't find a
property id 0x1037001E in any of my Exchange messages (even those that
arrived from outside SMTP senders). I sent myself a message
from a POP3 account that had the Organization set and then did a
dump_props. The only
I checked several of my messages with dump_props, and I can't find a
property id 0x1037001E in any of my Exchange messages (even those that
arrived from outside SMTP senders).
BTW, did you have the same version info in there as me with the same key?
If so, were you able to retrieve it?
[Kenny, way back in February]
My proposal is that all apps share the source release version
as their primary version number. The shared release version
would consist of the following parts:
* A major/minor version number (1.0)
* A release number that would increment for each release. If
I guess that's me, Hernán Foffani.
Many apologies. I wasn't paying enough attention and grabbed the name of an
email with i18n in the subject, but it was the wrong one.
Yes, I'm very busy these
days and will be out of town for 3 weeks soon. I'm very sorry.
It's not a problem at all! We
I would be happy to participate in doing the french
translation, if this has not been done before. I can
translate text from the program itself and web pages as well.
That would be fantastic! It's looking like we'll manage to have Spanish and
German (and English) translations with the 1.1
From time to time, I'm getting this traceback, in the
sb_imapfilter:
[...]
File sb_imapfilter.py, line 559, in Save
raise BadIMAPResponseError(Cannot find saved message, )
BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'Cannot find saved
message' failed
to give an OK response.
[...]
[Skip Montanaro]
It might be useful to codify some of these ideas into a tool
the user can run to reduce training dataset sizes without
necessarily committing to the train-to-exhaustion concept.
I think it would be a good idea if we had a spambayes.training module that
contained various
There's a win32gui.GetOpenFileName() method that provides a
lower-level interface to the open dialog. It requires you to
manually construct the Win32 API OPENFILENAME structure and
pass it in as a string, and I haven't had time to figure out
how to do that yet.
There's an example here:
I'm still trying to get my head around what to do with msvcr71.dll.
[...]
Please, don't place it in windows\system32.
We won't. If it is included, then it will be in the spambayes/bin directory
- as with 1.0.3.
If Python installer does it, I think it's a bug if we follow
I noticed on the FAQ that question 4.20 states that one can use the
following if something is already running on 8880.
sb_imapfilter -u %d -b
However sb_imapfilter from 1.0.3 doesn't recognise the -u option.
Actually, I don't think sb_imapfilter has ever supported the -u option (it
I've installed this (over the top of my previous binary
installation on Windows XP) and given it a quick test, and it
all works fine
Great :)
for me except for the More statistics page.
I'm not sure what should appear there, but I get this:
Statistics
Messages classified: 0
This
[Nicolas PIGNIER]
i'd like to translate the spambayes ui in french.
where do i start ?
[Rémy HESSELS]
If you need help for additionnal translating, I can help you.
[Nicolas Viry]
Ive already translated the ui into french. Im translating
the web site as well but its a slow process as Im
While compiling outlook plugin dll in directory
windows/py2exe/ on windows system(tried win98/winxp), python
setup_all.py failed with these error:
It's a warning, not an error.
[...]
The following modules appear to be missing
['BTrees.OOBTree', 'Crypto.Cipher', 'DateTime', 'Entrian',
1) Has anyone tried classifing, or keeping track of unknown
HTML tag names? Say for instance, some spam has the following
html VasdfsdfbrIasdfsdfbrGasdfsdfbrRasdfsdfbrA
What if a token was added named Unknown:Html or something
like that (because of the asdfsdf tags ?
At the moment we
Actually this FAQ
(http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#the-recover-from-sp
am-button-no-longer-appears - URL wrap alert!) may need tweaking
because some people will have the 'Not Spam' button and some will
still have the old 'Recover from Spam' button (I remember the old
wording now)
[Andy Holt]
If so, there's a minor issue. I've been running 1.1a for weeks, but my
toolbar buttons have had the same, longer text as they always had, until
just today when I was trying to track down an Outlook problem. I
disabled
all my add-ins, and when I came to re-enable Spambayes,
[Tim]
Wondering whether anyone else has seen this: I noticed
today that the file-choosers in my OL 2003 SB just stopped working.
[Tony]
They're broken here (OL 2002), too. No idea since when
(can't even remember the last time I used those controls). I
suspect that means that either
Search for 'confortable' in the FAQ:
Thanks; fixed.
=Tony.Meyer
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The following were tested on a PC running WINXP SP2 all patches and
Office 2003 SP1 all patches.
Thanks for that.
FWIW: I tried Inboxer 2.1 since it's based on the Spambayes engine and
it doesn't hang.
Interesting. That indicates that even if this is an Outlook bug as I
suspect, there must
1. Is Classifier.*_spamprob() thread-safe? I will be calling them
from multiple threads. Anything I should be aware of?
1. You'll want to be calling spamprob() itself, not one of the variants.
2. As long as you are not *training* from multiple threads (or training and
classifying at the
An annoying problem of Mail.app is that there appears to be
no way to insert a header into a message already in Mail.app.
So I can't do things like untrain_from_header().
It's pretty rare to be able to modify a message once it's already in the
mail client, whatever mail client you're using
[...]
I was actually referring to the SpamBayes home page at
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/
which doesn't contain the word Python anywhere in its body text -
Does now :) (I threw it in at an easy place; if anyone wants it done
differently, send a patch, or check it in ;)
I've just installed the SpamBayes POP3 service with Eudora 5.2 and
I'm attempting to use Skip's Recursive Training Set Selection
Algorithm to ramp up its effectiveness. I've trained on about 14
messages now, and I think it's time to reclassify some messages.
That's why I think a handy tool in
[Richard Heck]
the suggestion was that sb_server.py should handle these things
itself (as most system daemons do), that is, lower its own
privileges if it discovers that it is running as root
I'm -1 on this, personally. IMO it's up to whoever runs sb_server.py
(or any of the other
No one who knew what they were doing would want to run it as root.
It's not my business to assume that I know better than they. If they
have the ability to run something as root, then they should be able
to do so. People who don't know what they are doing shouldn't use
root at all.
After using spambayes and loving it I decided to contribute seeing
as I had a couple of hours spare this afternoon. I took the liberty
of converting your site to XHTML 1.0 Strict standards and sprucing
it up a bit, site is now tableless and uses strict XHTML and CSS
styling so is much
Hey everyone :)
Now that sourceforge offers subversion as well as CVS, what does
everyone think about switching spambayes over to svn?
There's a slightly out-of-date copy of what's in CVS at:
https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/spambayes/trunk/spambayes
if anyone wants to play around with it
[Tony Meyer]
Now that sourceforge offers subversion as well as CVS, what does
everyone think about switching spambayes over to svn?
[Skip Montanaro]
I tried using it for the first time today to download matplotlib at work.
It failed because our svn doesn't have SSL support builtin. I
I've decided to just get on with it and put out 1.1a2. The unit tests
pass, and things appear to work - except for imapfilter, which needs a
fair bit of fixing (or perhaps reverting) that I just won't have time
for any time soon.
I've built the source distributions, which are online, but haven't
[Tony Meyer]
Is there
anyone that does that would either build the binary for me or provide
me with the typelib files?
Sure! What version of Python are you using these days? Anything
else I
need to do other than update CVS and turn the crank?
Nope. Just running setup_all.py should
Sure! What version of Python are you using these days?
I missed this bit: Python 2.4, which was new and shiny when 1.1a1 was
done :)
With all the problems going from 2.3 to 2.4, I'm a bit scared of
trying 2.5 (a1/SVN) even though 2.5 might be out by the time 1.1
final is.
(I haven't
I finally cvs up'd last night, installed ZODB and tried things out.
Somewhat OT, but did you have a large number of warnings when you
installed ZODB? I finally got around installing ZODB 3.6 and there
were screens of warnings (ZODB 3.6.0, Python 2.4.1, OS X 10.4.6,
Apple's gcc 4.0.0).
[Skip]
I'm still fiddling around with these spams that have a bunch of one-
letter
words hiding drugs for sale:
V k I p A m G i R u A v
V j A v L s I t U w M g
X g A f N a A f X q
C x I e A a L g I c S l
I will try your sf patch with newer mail soon, honest! :)
[...]
I
[Nigel]
I am prepared to suggest alterations to the Windows FAQ (at least the
parts that affect Eudora),
[Richie]
Thanks! All suggestions for improvements are gratefully received.
Indeed!
In the
case of the Eudora content, I personally don't use Eudora so I
couldn't
verify any new
We are looking for a consultant to write an interface between
SpamBayes and an e-mail client written in C. This interface should
do filtering, which will consist of adding the X-Spambayes-
Classification tag to the header of the mail body, and should do
training. Ideally, you would
[Building a 1.1a3 binary]
I'm happy to turn that crank - just say the word (and let me know
which of
those cranks you prefer)
Great. Skip - just tell Mark when you feel everything is ready, and
Mark can (cvs-up and) run setup_all.py, compress the resulting dist
folder, and send that to
I don't know what to do given that Outlook shreds email so
completely.
Maybe this stuff can only be tested on Unix-y machines. Maybe the
image analysis code won't even work because there's no such thing
as an
attachment with MIME content-type image/*... in Outlook.
I can manage all of
On 25/08/2006, at 1:18 AM, Mark Hammond wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/spambayes/spambayes/windows/py2exe
In directory sc8-pr-cvs8.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv6540
Modified Files:
setup_all.py
Log Message:
Ship with PIL (but no Tkinter) and pyDNS
[...]
! excludes = Tkinter, #
I plan to do this myself at some point, but thought Skip (or someone
else) might want to beat me to it:
Google/UNLV have (re)released an open-source* OCR engine, which they
claim is better than any other open-source OCR engine. So it would
be interesting to compare the classification with
I received four or five spambayes-dev messages today that were
dated in
2004.
Me, too.
Looking at the received headers:
[...]
it appears they originated somewhere outside of python.org, perhaps
spamlab.co.uk. (cc'ing their postmaster just in case...)
Received: (qmail
We would like to
understand what interactions the tokenizer has with the different
modules.
The tokenizer reads the options to know what tokenizing to do. Any
of the other modules that need to tokenize a message use the
tokenizer. That's about it*.
Is there any documentation
[Skip]
Why not just create an email message out of the input? If the
headers are
identical in every message they won't generate any useful tokens
and the
message body will be all that yields useful clues. OTOH, if you
have login
or IP address information for the spammers, you might
[Skip]
I got some errors (files I couldn't upload), but most of it
seemed to work okay.
Some mhammond fellow (a long time back) added some files and left
them writable only by him. That means only he can update those -
it's not really a big issue, because it's just a page about
Hi,
Anybody still here?
>>
>
> Still here, but strictly in read-only mode. (And also in
> self-contradiction mode.)
>
+1 to both of those ;)
Cheers,
Tony
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Hi,
> I downloaded spambaes into outlook 2016 windows 10. It seems to work but
there is no manager or task bar showing anywhere. What can I do?
Sorry, but I doubt that the add-on is supported in Outlook 2016. A lot has
changed in Outlook since the add-on was made, and it's not really in active
Hi!
At some point, SpamExperts "sponsored" the registration. They were acquired
by SolarWinds late last year - how community sponsorship stuff like this is
handled/migrated is somewhat still being figured out.
I can organise getting this done (I got acquired also).
Ngā mihi,
Tony
On Thu, 8 Feb
Hi,
For what it's worth, of the storage backends in the sourceforge version:
* pickle: probably still best for the research tools since it's basically
just an in-memory dict that is dumped to disk
* dbm: this could be bsddb3, but also gdm and others. Out of date.
* Postgres: should still be fine
> Aside: Given that other email providers have implemented satisfactory
spam filters (Gmail, Thunderbird, even Yahoo!), it's always struck me as
odd that Microsoft hasn't seen fit to provide something for Outlook users.
I think the expectation these days is that Outlook users are generally
using
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