Re: [OpenID] Announce: OpenID Authentication Draft 12 (finally)

2007-08-28 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 28-Aug-07, at 6:11 PM, Johnny Bufu wrote: On 27-Aug-07, at 7:05 PM, Peter Williams wrote: A. fragment identifiers on user input are to be removed. Do not remove the separator. Good thing we didn't call it final just yet. In my mind the separator was part of the fragment, but re-reading

Re: Review of Yadis section in XRI Resolution 2.0 WD11

2007-05-31 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 31-May-07, at 1:45 AM, Drummond Reed wrote: To make this new section easy to review, we've put it on the XRI TC wiki at: http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xri/XriCd02/XrdsDiscoveryFromHttpUris In Section 8.2: the value of the head element whose http-equiv attribute is X-

Re: clarifying section 11.2 in draft 11 for HTML discovery?

2007-05-25 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 25-May-07, at 11:18 AM, Peter Watkins wrote: It's too bad Yadis doesn't allow embedding the XRDS document in something like a META tag to avoid that second Yadis HTTP request If you send an Accept header that includes application/xrds+xml the OP can return the XRDS document on the first

Re: encoding newlines in attribute values

2007-04-19 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 18-Apr-07, at 9:47 PM, Johnny Bufu wrote: The core spec doesn't allow newline characters (\n) in any openid.* values. Currently, Attribute Exchange doesn't specify a way to encode newlines in attribute values. Every indirect OpenID message would seem to be already url-encoded by the

Re: PROPOSAL schema.openid.net for AX (and other extensions)

2007-04-11 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 8-Apr-07, at 1:01 PM, Mark Wahl wrote: FYI if you are carrying attribuets in OpenID AX that are equivalent to LDAP attributes with attribute types being standardized in the IETF, then you could use our LDAP schema definition metadata. We have resolvable HTTP URIs for each of the

Re: PROPOSAL schema.openid.net for AX (and other extensions)

2007-04-10 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 9-Apr-07, at 8:23 PM, Recordon, David wrote: Is there a list anywhere? I didn't find one in the documents and I think this list would benefit everyone in the conversation. I'm just curious as to the fields you're expecting an OP to implement. While at Standard, I ended up hosting our

Re: PROPOSAL schema.openid.net for AX (and other extensions)

2007-04-10 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 10-Apr-07, at 12:21 AM, Dick Hardt wrote: On 9-Apr-07, at 5:24 PM, Recordon, David wrote: Yes, I agree an upgrade path from SREG is needed. We could however do something as simple as http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration- extension-1_0.html#nickname for the existing SREG

Re: PROPOSAL schema.openid.net for AX (and other extensions)

2007-04-10 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 10-Apr-07, at 9:39 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: On 4/10/07, Rowan Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the main difference I'm seeing at the moment is that SREG doesn't specifically request each value it wants, except in openid.sreg.required and openid.sreg.optional. Um, that is exactly how

Re: Server-to-server channel

2007-04-03 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 3-Apr-07, at 9:18 AM, Anders Feder wrote: * The RP can't know the status of the information it is working with - it just have to assume that the attributes it has in store are up- to-date. The RP can send an update_url to the OP when it fetches the attributes, so it will get new values

Re: Attribute Exchange pre-draft 5

2007-04-02 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 2-Apr-07, at 3:16 PM, Josh Hoyt wrote: What about attributes whose value could reasonably be an empty string? It would be reasonable to answer don't do that, I'm just curious how you expect this case to be handled. I'd say it's up to the RP to decide whether the data returned is valid

Re: Attribute Exchange pre-draft 5

2007-04-02 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 2-Apr-07, at 3:14 PM, Josh Hoyt wrote: On 3/26/07, Johnny Bufu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One feature we didn't figure out yet if its benefits would be worth the added complexity: - in a fetch response, distinguish between attributes that the user didn't *want* to release

Re: Attribute Exchange pre-draft 5

2007-04-02 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 2-Apr-07, at 5:27 PM, Josh Hoyt wrote: I'm thinking about differentiating between an attribute that's not available and an attribute that *is* available, but its value is . I. e. difference between a null pointer, and a pointer to an empty string. That was part of why I had the idea of

Extensions key prefix

2007-03-13 Thread Rowan Kerr
In all my time spent reading and implementing the OpenID Authn 2 spec, this particular detail escaped me. Johnny Bufu pointed it out to me the other day while we were going through some Attribute Exchange tests. http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0-11.html#extensions To

Re: Extensions key prefix

2007-03-13 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 13-Mar-07, at 6:23 PM, Drummond Reed wrote: If I understand you correctly here, what you are saying is that openid.ns.* prefixes work almost identically to XML namespace (xmlns) prefixes, i.e.: * the prefix is never globally defined by dynamically defined on a per-instance basis *

Re: DRAFT 11 - FINAL?

2007-01-31 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 1/30/07, Josh Hoyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *snip* While it is true that since the link relationship names changed, the openid2 is technically redundant, I think it is much clearer to everybody what is going on if the link relationship contains the version number. If the protocol version

Re: OpenID Attribute Exchange 1.0 draft 4

2007-01-31 Thread Rowan Kerr
opaque, or if it's nicer because the messages are now more standard. I suppose the main OpenID specs already rely on the absence of values rather than the presence or naming of, so maybe it's more in keeping with the general protocol. -Rowan -- Rowan Kerr Senior Web Programmer, Standard

Re: DRAFT 11 - FINAL?

2007-01-31 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 1/31/07, Recordon, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm happy changing it from AJAX. I think it was originally used since AJAX is a bit overloaded already and people normally understand the flashy non-reloading sort of thing when saying it. I suppose some people might, but for a developer

Re: DRAFT 11 - FINAL?

2007-01-30 Thread Rowan Kerr
The openid2.* links bug me a little.. but due to no openid.ns being defined in the 1.x protocol, maybe there is no other way to specify by HTML discovery that your OP is 2.0 capable. Would it be bad to have a openid.version link instead? Also, the spec mentions AJAX interactions, but I don't see

Re: Business Scenarios

2007-01-10 Thread Rowan Kerr
a whitepaper (yet?), but we're using openid for listener club information and working with our 3rd party service providers to make their services openid-enabled so they can access one common set of data. -Rowan -- Rowan Kerr Senior Web Programmer, Standard Interactive tel:+14169344451 xmpp:[EMAIL

Re: Attribute Exchange Schema site

2007-01-05 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 1/5/07, Dick Hardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Attribute Type model is such that anyone with a domain can define new attributes. No need for central control. We created a set of what we thought were common attributes, but that does not mean anyone has to use them. Being able to define

Re: Attribute Exchange Schema site

2007-01-04 Thread Rowan Kerr
On 1/3/07, Dick Hardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our proposal was to have the schemas for OpenID hosted at schema.openid.net. Some people expressed concerns about having them be on openid.net. Do you have any suggestions? Anyone else have an opinion? Does anyone care? ;-) Being part of the

Attribute Exchange Schema site

2007-01-02 Thread Rowan Kerr
to update it for Draft 2 if someone can make the default types site and accompanying XML docs available. Thanks, -Rowan -- Rowan Kerr Senior Web Programmer, Standard Interactive tel:+14169344451 xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://standardinteractive.com/ ___ specs

Re: IdP's Advertising Both http and https

2006-11-09 Thread Rowan Kerr
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 00:42 -0800, Dick Hardt wrote: -Original Message- From: Recordon, David But the security warnings will still exist: - RP redirects me to http on IdP - IdP redirects me to https on IdP for login page (warning) no warning on GET redirects If GET is

Re: Making identities persistent?

2006-11-01 Thread Rowan Kerr
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 11:33 -0500, John Kemp wrote: I think you need the ability for a user to change his identifier at the RP (as George notes below) and also at the IdP. Isn't this was already covered in the spec? You accomplish this by creating an HTML page on some website you control with