Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread David Allan I
ailto:rob...@raszuk.net>; m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Would not the concept of (EOS set) Get a bit strange? We are simply swapping one reserved label for another…

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>; z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>; rob...@raszuk.net<mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>; m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special pur

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread David Allan I
.de>; adr...@olddog.co.uk Cc: draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; z...@cisco.com; rob...@raszuk.net; m...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Ruediger, There i

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
☺ Best regards, Jie From: mpls [mailto:mpls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:08 PM To: Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths; spring; mpls; Zafar Ali (zali) Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] redux: Special purpose labels

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Greg Mirsky
iger.g...@telekom.de > *Sent:* Thursday, November 16, 2017 4:44 AM > *To:* adr...@olddog.co.uk > *Cc:* draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org; > spring@ietf.org; rob...@raszuk.net; m...@ietf.org; z...@cisco.com > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] redux: Special purp

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
ichael.gorokhov...@ecitele.com> Subject: RE: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths John, Looks like a very interesting proposal. Please note that GAL and GACH would not (hopefully) affect ECMP (if it is used on the label stack hashing)

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Ruediger.Geib
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Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
...@telekom.de <ruediger.g...@telekom.de>; adr...@olddog.co.uk Cc: draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; z...@cisco.com; rob...@raszuk.net; m...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
spring@ietf.org>>; 'Zafar Ali (zali)' <z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>>; 'mpls' <m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org>> Betreff: Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Let's unpick a couple of things

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Ruediger.Geib
lt;draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; 'spring' <spring@ietf.org>; 'Zafar Ali (zali)' <z...@cisco.com>; 'mpls' <m...@ietf.org> Betreff: Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Let's

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
Adrian I do not agree with with #2 .. no marker of any sort is needed. And debugging LDP networks is no different then debugging IP networks so sure some who are used to ATM/Frame Relay find it very hard to troubleshoot. Best r. On Nov 16, 2017 13:35, "Adrian Farrel"

Re: [spring] [mpls] redux: Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Adrian Farrel
Let's unpick a couple of things... 1. This work is not talking about per-flow accounting, it is talking about peer SR-path accounting 2. ipfix on its own does not cut it because you still have to put a marker in the packets 3. Yes, SR assumes there is no (i.e. zero) state per SR-path in the