residential sprinklers on the TV

2010-10-27 Thread George Church
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Tech update

2010-10-27 Thread Greg McGahan
Regarding the tech update rcvd this morning and sprinklers in HVAC / Water Heater Closets: What if the water heater is on the bottom and SEALED off from the HVAC closet on top via gaskets on the door? If a fire broke out in the WH part, heat would not escape until the shelf or gaskets burned

Wisconsin

2010-10-27 Thread Craig.Prahl
Anyone here work regularly in Wisconsin? I'm needing to know what the licensing limitations are (if they exist) concerning who can install underground fire mains and appurtenances versus aboveground sprinkler systems. Can a sprinkler contractor install underground or does that require a

RE: Wisconsin

2010-10-27 Thread Dewayne Martinez
Licensed sprinkler contractor of fitter can install UG fire main in WI. Most times we sub out the digging to a plumbing contractor and have a licensed fitter on site to install the pipe. Dewayne -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

Re: Wisconsin

2010-10-27 Thread Chris Cahill
Our GC's sub'ed it out. We started at the flange inside. Common on the western side. Chris -Original Message- From: Dewayne Martinez deway...@dbfp.net Sender: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:19:15 To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Reply-To:

THE on XP Pro

2010-10-27 Thread Bill Brooks
Please excuse my tech ignorance but is there a workaround that allows THE to run on Windows XP Pro? Bill Brooks William N. Brooks, P.E. Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. 372 Wilett Drive Severna Park, MD 21146-1904 410-544-3620 410-544-3032 FAX 412-400-6528 Cell

Re: Wisconsin

2010-10-27 Thread njarendt tds.net
You will need to check with the licensing division of the Wisconsin Department of Commerce as to the license requirements. Their website has all sorts of contact info. If you need help let me know and I can point you to the correct person. Then you will also need to check with the specific

Re: THE on XP Pro

2010-10-27 Thread Vince Sabolik
Right click on Desktop - New Shortcut Browse to directory that contains the THE Program Select the executable (.exe) file, usually THE##.exe Assign an icon and it should work from there. If there are problems remaining (fonts, display box size) let me know and I'll call you. Good luck! At

RE: THE on XP Pro

2010-10-27 Thread Steve Leyton
It ran fine for us that way. Now if you upgrade to Windows 7 ... Steve -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Vince Sabolik Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:48 AM To:

RE: THE on XP Pro

2010-10-27 Thread David Blackwell
Windows XP Mode requires Win7 Pro or Ultimate OS. I had to upgrade my home laptop PC [64-bit] OS from Home Premium to Pro to get it so I can run old programs. It is a free but big download from Microsoft and runs in its own virtual environment and needs the other free download for Windows Virtual

FW: 1-1/2 2-1/2 Hose Connections

2010-10-27 Thread Brian Harris
Anybody? Brian Harris FDFP Inc. _ From: Brian Harris [mailto:br...@firstdefensefire.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:38 PM To: 'sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org' Subject: 1-1/2 2-1/2 Hose Connections Can someone confirm for me that the hose connections talked about in

RE: 1-1/2 2-1/2 Hose Connections

2010-10-27 Thread Brian Harris
Cliff- Thanks, will do. Brian Harris FDFP Inc. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Cliff Whitfield Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:06 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE:

RE: 1-1/2 2-1/2 Hose Connections

2010-10-27 Thread Steve Leyton
Sorry for the delay Brian - yes, 8.17.5.1.3 is referring to small hose connections only. But Cliff's comment isn't entirely accurate in that the building code allows for certain conditions where 2 1/2 fire hose valves can be directly connected to a sprinkler system and are not considered to be

Re: FW: 1-1/2 2-1/2 Hose Connections

2010-10-27 Thread Charles Thurston
Hello Brian, 8.17.5.1 Small (1 1/2) (38 mm) Hose Connections. See Section C.5. 8.17.5.1.3 is a subset of 8.17.5.1 so I would take it as small hose 1 1/2 Just my opinion For 2 1/2 Hose I go to NFPA 14 standpipes. Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 4:01:04 PM, you wrote: Anybody? Brian

RE: 1-1/2 2-1/2 Hose Connections

2010-10-27 Thread Cliff Whitfield
Steve, How are you? Missed you at the convention this year. I know you are the standpipe guru so I'm only asking to learn something here. Even when 2½ valves are part of a sprinkler system and not considered to be a standpipe system, aren't the values (flows, sizing, etc) still based on 14?

RE: 1-1/2 2-1/2 Hose Connections

2010-10-27 Thread Steve Leyton
Not necessarily, as the code contains prescriptive language regarding basis of design. See 905.3.3 of the new building code for covered mall buildings for example. Yes, the code says to provide a standpipe system per 905.3 but if a building is outside of the scope of 905.3.1, but still

Re: THE on XP Pro

2010-10-27 Thread Ron Greenman
Something for Windows that's big. I'm shocked. I'm also shocked that's there's gambling at Rick's. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:38 AM, David Blackwell blac...@llr.sc.gov wrote: Windows XP Mode requires Win7 Pro or Ultimate OS. I had to upgrade my home laptop PC [64-bit] OS from Home Premium to

Re: residential sprinklers on the TV

2010-10-27 Thread Ron Greenman
Nicely done. Hard to argue with the 1% and the firefighter says it's good and the insurance guy says save money. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Rod DiBona r...@rapidfireinc.com wrote: Outstanding George!! We need more publicity like that. Rod DiBona Rapid Fire Protection -Original

Fully Sprinklered

2010-10-27 Thread David de Vries
Now that I need to find it, I cannot remember where I saw it.  What code reference says that a building that is sprinklered in accordance with the applicable standard (13, 13R, 13D) is considered fully sprinklered, even if some spaces, like closets, bathrooms, etc. have no sprinklers?  Dave

Re: Fully Sprinklered

2010-10-27 Thread Ron Greenman
Try 2006 IBC 903.3.1.1.1. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:08 PM, David de Vries ddevr...@firetecheng.net wrote: Now that I need to find it, I cannot remember where I saw it.  What code reference says that a building that is sprinklered in accordance with the applicable standard (13, 13R, 13D) is