RE: Old pipe schedule

http://buildingcoderesourcelibrary.com/Fire_Protection_History.aspx scroll about 2/3 the way down to Part 211: 1899 (Sprinkler System Installation Rules) The earliest Systems were installed based on British Standard Rules and, even today, the British pipe schedules are more 'lenient' than

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

I'm not too terribly clear on how some sort of thrust block is needed, unless it were at either end of the line. This fitting is a "flow though" device, with no change of direction. Is the manufacturer telling us that once the line is put under pressure that the fitting can be pushed apart?

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

The rep told me they were working on larger sizes, may be available now, price was about $10/ per as I recall. Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 904-781-8227 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

RE: Old pipe schedule

Ah.., but the crux is, Are you working there under 25 or 13? R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Project Manager Rapid Fire Protection Inc. *NEW ADDRESS* 1530 Samco Road Rapid City, SD 57702 Office-605.348.2342 Direct Line-605.593.5063 Cell-605.391.2733 Fax:-605.348.0108 -Original Message-

Re: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

I have done a few diesel engine fire pumps that we had to pipe the Raw Water Outlet to the floor drain. I believe this is what you are referring to. Its the only water source that I have ever had to pipe to drain from the ENGINE of the fire pump. Its been 1" discharge that we piped to the floor

RE: Old pipe schedule

What is the sprinkler spacing? Staggered spacing was quite common before 1940. Newer heads installed? High pressure water supply connected? It likely will barely do .10 density or maybe .15 with moderate pressure. FM used to allow 3-5 psi at end head for pipe schedule. Art Tiroly ATCO Fire

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

Spears makes it, I have a cut sheet if you need it. Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 904-781-8227 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On

RE: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

Basically you're flowing water from pump discharge through a prv cooling manifold and dumping it down the drain. Depends on engine and other stuff like cooling loop size, etc. Clarke has some good info on flow rates with or without inter or aftercoolers. TD If it has a radiator, it's a closed

Re: Old pipe schedule

Todd, google 'history of fire protection' and look for rules ~1899 I think- it shows pipe schedule-- Or I could send the pdf when I get to the office 1.5 hours. Brad On Mar 16, 2016 6:22 AM, "Todd Williams" wrote: > I am working on a project in a mill that was

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

Thanks for the info - I appreciate it! On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Richard Carr wrote: > You would have to get creative on the thrust block, unistrut, 90 the end > of line to get a hanger to keep the line from pushing apart, if you already > had armovers or a line that

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

A sharkbite fitting is not unlike the Chinese finger cuff you might have played with as a kid, except that instead of the finger cuff contracting to grip your fingers as you try to pull them apart there are “shark” teeth to hold the fingers. There is no glue. The teeth are what counteracts the

RE: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

If it has a radiator, it's a closed loop system correct? So, what's the capacity of the cooling system? If you emptied it out onto the floor like a bucket, methinks any size floor drain can handle it. Steve Original message From: "Easter, Timothy"

RE: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

Probably just a heat exchanger but what you might be seeing is an intercooler or aftercooler, all 3 dump. Try Clarke if it's their engine. -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Easter, Timothy Sent: Wednesday, March

RE: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

Please help me identify what this line is coming from? I thought it was from radiator. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Regards,   Timothy Easter, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Direct: (757) 383-6217 timothy.eas...@aecom.com AECOM 11832 Rock Landing Drive Suite, 306, Newport News,

RE: Old pipe schedule

There was not a lot of codes or guidelines back then, some driven by insurance companies but most were just do what you think is best, are the old heads still in or have they been replaced. Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205

RE: Old pipe schedule

I have removed lots of 3/4. Some expertly bent around large wood beams in an 1800' s factory. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Todd Williams Date: 03/16/2016 5:22 AM (GMT-07:00) To:

RE: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

Tim, Most diesel engine driven fire pumps use a water cooled heat exchanger to cool the engine coolant. Need to check with pump/engine manufacturer for the heat exchanger flow rates. If it has a radiator then it is a closed loop and should not be discharging into a floor drain. Have a fire safe

radiator blowout

How to estimate the GPM for radiator blowoff (diesel fire pump, YES it has a radiator :)) so we can confirm the floor drain pipe will handle it? Feel free to contact me with any questions. Regards, Timothy Easter, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Direct: (757) 383-6217

Re: Old pipe schedule

Sure Todd! Wet to Dry should be against the law :). At least way back when we had to slope even Wet pipe to drain. Sounds like huge capacity. And that is with 3/4, 1, 1...! But I think the consensus of those whom have analyzed what existing scheduled systems will deliver with medium water supplys

Re: Old pipe schedule

Todd, Pipe schedules using 3/4 - 1 - 1 1/4 were common in the early days. I have done many re-vamp jobs around Atlanta where it was required by NFPA 13 to change all the 3/4 pipe to 1". I never saw a 3/4 - 1 - 1 but it is possible from 1884. I don't know how that would calculate unless you have a

Re: Old pipe schedule

Upper mid-West white pine? NW Doug Fir? I wonder how many fires this system has controlled in last 130 years. Best Bruce > On Mar 16, 2016, at 06:02, Brad Casterline wrote: > > http://buildingcoderesourcelibrary.com/Fire_Protection_History.aspx > > scroll about 2/3

RE: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

We can't see the pictures. Lines connected to the radiator on the engine can be fuel , coolant or combustion air, and are small, larger, and largest in that order. Two connections each, one in and one out. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

Hello all, I had someone tell me there are shark-bite style fittings out there that are listed for fire sprinkler use. I've been searching but have failed to find any. We have a need for fittings that can be utilized immediately without having to wait for glue to cure. Any direction is

Re: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

I'm with you on this one Ken. Someone is mixing metaphors - thrustblocks consist of concrete, i.e., UNDG, so no place to think hanger. You are the swaybrace guru---anything about concrete for Overhead Pipe? On Mar 18, 2016 3:29 PM, "Parsley Consulting" wrote: > I'm

diesel fire pump radiator gpm

How to estimate the GPM for radiator blowoff (diesel fire pump, YES it has a radiator :)) so we can confirm the floor drain pipe will handle it? Feel free to contact me with any questions. Regards, Timothy Easter, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Direct: (757) 383-6217

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

FlameGuard GripLoc coupling but only in 3/4 and 1". It is a repair coupling, no glue needed. Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 rc...@coxfire.com 904-781-8227 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum

RE: cpvc sharkbite style fittings?

AquaTherm has a plastic material that is joined by heat fusion. It is FM approved only though (not UL). It is ready to go pretty quickly after install. Not the cheapest product out there. Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II   Sales Engineer Alliance Fire Protection 130 w 9th Ave. North Kansas

Re: Old pipe schedule "quick-response"

Approximately 95.775 incidents...(LOL) Jerry _accentfire@aol.com_ (mailto:accentf...@aol.com) In a message dated 3/17/2016 10:06:31 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, bver...@comcast.net writes: Upper mid-West white pine? NW Doug Fir? I wonder how many fires this system has controlled in

RE: diesel fire pump radiator gpm

Go here http://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=2=rja=8=0ahUKEwiUtbTu38XLAhULnIMKHdmEDm4QFggiMAE=http%3A%2F%2Fcumminsfirepower.com%2Fdocuments%2FO%26M_Manuals%2F17624_Radiator_Cooled_User's_Guide.pdf=AFQjCNEnKjMZ5T67cgb1rNydhnxvkQQ2Ow=bv.116954456,d.amc Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 -Original