the same way.
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Subject: Re: Rubber Tire Storage
Tires are hard to get lit and therefore hard to put out once you do (thermal
inertia).
Maybe the reason for the separate standard, more than the material composition,
is the expected fire growth/decline rate
forum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
John Paulsen
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Rubber Tire Storage [EXTERNAL]
James:
He doesn't think NFPA-13, Chapter 18 applies? I understand his
confusion, the commodities definitio
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Behalf Of John Paulsen
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Rubber Tire Storage [EXTERNAL]
James:
He doesn't
sign.
SL
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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Rubber Tire Storage
Tires are tires. Tires are not plastic milk jugs.
Today'
Tires are tires. Tires are not plastic milk jugs.
Today's modern tires are a composition of numerous materials. Natural and
synthetic rubbers are used in various proportions depending the tire use group.
But regardless, synthetic rubber or not, the chemical characteristics,
ignition and burni
James:
He doesn't think NFPA-13, Chapter 18 applies? I understand his confusion, the
commodities definitions do reference synthetic rubber as a Group A Plastic, but
it doesn't specifically reference tires in the definitions
John Paulsen - SET
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On
Behalf Of James Crawford
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:56 AM
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Subject: Rubber Tire Storage
NFPA #13 (2013) is my reference.
I have an AHJ that is telling me that
Used to be a separate code.
NFPA 231D
Standard for Storage of Rubber Tires
Current Edition: 1998
*Important Note:* This document was withdrawn at the Annual 2001 meeting.
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:56 AM, James Crawford
wrote:
> NFPA #13 (2013) is my reference.
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> I have an AHJ that is tel
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Subject: Re: Rubber Tire Storage
Full scale fire tests?
On Apr 11, 2017, at 15:24, James Crawford wrote:
We have an existing building protected with ESFR K17 sprinkler heads operating
at 52 psi for 35’ storage in a 40’ high building.
They want to store
Full scale fire tests?
> On Apr 11, 2017, at 15:24, James Crawford wrote:
>
> We have an existing building protected with ESFR K17 sprinkler heads
> operating at 52 psi for 35’ storage in a 40’ high building.
>
> They want to store rubber tires and are asking what they can do, I am using
>
The criteria has been around a while and I wasn't involved with it's
development so I am proceeding just on logic (and we all know logic
doesn't allows rule - lol)
Table 12.4.2(a) Section 1(a) has no real limits on pile size and more
importantly no breaks along its length so a larger remote
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