Of tom poisal
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:24 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Salary
The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site, for
designers without formal training and nicet certification, vs those with,
college degree's, and it seems that according to my Linkin frens plus
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of tom poisal
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:24 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Salary
The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site, for
designers without formal training and nicet certification, vs those
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:44 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
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It depends on what the design house
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of tom poisal
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To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Salary
The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Salary
Travis, next 4 head job I get, I'm thinking of you.
I take the opposite approach
,
and there was.
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:56 AM
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Case in point, I worked
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Subject: RE: Salary
I'm with you Todd. I couldn't not have said it better. It's no different
than the various pricing you see on a sprinkler job itself. There are many
sprinkler contractors that either don't have the experience, the overhead,
the abilities
Real BIM modeling goes WAY beyond just a 3D rendition of a building.
Please elaborate on this. I think that I know what you're talking about.
How would a Detail Level 5 effect a sprinkler plan?
Vince Sabolik
Christi Fire Protection, Inc.
11351 Pearl Road
Strongsville, Ohio 44136
T 440
: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:18 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
He may have had more heads in some or all of his work and that's overdesign,
but designing and installing additional uprights vrs a lesser number of
ATTIC sprinklers doesn't necessarily result in an overdesign
, 2010 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Salary
Travis, next 4 head job I get, I'm thinking of you.
I take the opposite approach. I keep my pricing formulas private. I
don't want my clients to know how I figure it. This way I have
control over
: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:09 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
I'm with you Todd. I couldn't not have said it better. It's no different
than the various pricing you see on a sprinkler job itself. There are many
sprinkler contractors that either don't have
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:20 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
George, it's not a matter of what is better. It was the overall
Of Vince Sabolik
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:18 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
Real BIM modeling goes WAY beyond just a 3D rendition of a building.
Please elaborate on this. I think that I know what you're talking about.
How would a Detail Level 5 effect
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Vince Sabolik
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:18 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
Real BIM modeling goes WAY beyond just a 3D rendition
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:32 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
For a sprinkler system in a real Bldg. Information Model you would be able
, 2010 11:36 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
Time in this business means little. It's the quality you produce. As
one of our esteemed forum members said to me once describing a
designer he said he had 21 years experience, but it was really 3
years of experience 7 times
While anyone can get a SF price from Means, that doesn't mean that that
price is what they should expect to pay for their job.
Means, uses averages, it's just like saying that the average residential
fire sprinkler system will cost $1.61 per SF. If you take that another way,
The average home, will
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craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Salary
George, it's not a matter of what is better. It was the overall way this
guy did business. Mention
Thanks... That's kind of what I expected to see.
I'm wondering now, would this be worth the price (of development,
deployment) to have this
info down to the piping level of a sprinkler system?
Most of bim that I've seen answers one question - did I hit anything?
And a lot of drawings are being
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Vince
Sabolik
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:18 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
Real BIM modeling goes WAY beyond just a 3D rendition of a
building.
Please elaborate on this. I think that I know what you're talking about.
How would
Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
While many projects now Require BIM, our industry is slow off the mark in
reguards to supplying us with BIM Blocks.
That is if you click on the alarm valve
Consulting
San Diego, CA
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Vince
Sabolik
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:18 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
Real BIM modeling goes
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Salary
BIM is the most overused acronym in the design field
24, 2010 8:53 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Salary
Well, it's lunchtime here and I'm having BIM, BIM, BIM, BIM, BIM,
Baked Beans, BIM, BIM and BIM.
At 11:45 AM 5/24/2010, you wrote:
BIM is the most overused acronym in the design field at this moment,
IMHO. Building
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of tom poisal
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:24 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Salary
The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site, for
designers without formal training and nicet certification, vs those
Subject: Salary
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
I agree with you Cliff but please remember. There are a lot of
inadequate companies and designers charging more than they deserve. We
have paid designers (none on the forum) to do work for us that we had to
completely redo because they didn't use
For someone who shows up fit for work or for someone who shows up drunk?
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of tom poisal
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:24 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Salary
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of tom
poisal
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:24 PM
To: sprinklerforum
Subject: Salary
The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site, for
designers without formal training
So who would qualify as a major designer and what kind of salary could he/she
command ?
Lamar Vaughn , SET
Vaughn and Company
700 Country Lake Ct.
McDonough , Ga. 30252
678-429-3563
tom poisal tspoi...@gmail.com wrote:
The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site
, lamarvau...@charter.net wrote:
So who would qualify as a major designer and what kind of salary could
he/she command ?
Lamar Vaughn , SET
Vaughn and Company
700 Country Lake Ct.
McDonough , Ga. 30252
678-429-3563
tom poisal tspoi...@gmail.com wrote:
The salary results have been
: 970-879-7926
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:55 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Salary
The obvious answer is everything you've got
The salary results have been tabulated from the NICET web site, for
designers without formal training and nicet certification, vs those with,
college degree's, and it seems that according to my Linkin frens plus
contractors, most companies want to recruit a CET, proficient in some sort
of CAD
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