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RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread George Church
I suppose it's just since we apply the codes and standards as adopted so most AHJs don't know and don't care if we can model something or draw other conclusions than what they're reading in black and white, day in and day out. George L. Church, Jr., CET   Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Cahill, Christopher
Curious on the addition of balconies. It has been that way (without balconies) in 13R for 20 years...what caused the change now? Chris Cahill, PE* Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation Facilities Group Burns McDonnell 8201 Norman Center Drive Bloomington, MN 55437 Phone:  952.656.3652

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread George Church
Yup. Just that my priorities have changed and I don't do as much sprinkler work on weekends now. Got slapped upside the head with a new timetable. Knock yourself out, however- don't let life pass you by in the meantime. George L. Church, Jr., CET   Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407,

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Cahill, Christopher
smoke control systems can be tested 'full scale' and not be destructive doing so. How do you do that? If you are not testing with hot or at least a very buoyant 'smoke' plume you probably aren't really testing it. Chris Cahill, PE* Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation Facilities

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Brad Casterline
Sad news George. You know the Forum is here for you. I enjoy when you philosophize and reminisce, too. -Original Message- From: George Church [mailto:g...@rowesprinkler.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:12 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 13R balcony protection

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Brad Casterline
I knew I was asking for trouble, even with the semi-quotes 'full scale'. The key is more satisfying. If I say 20 heads at .2/X sq ft will control a Y size fire..., just flowing 20 heads to verify the calcs, even with-out a fire might be destructive. But if I say it will take (4) 40,000 CFM fans to

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Todd Williams
Chris, in Eastern CT, we had 2 fires (in the same city) where unprotected porches added significantly to the extent of fire damage. That was one of the deciding factors here. At 08:53 AM 10/15/2012, you wrote: Curious on the addition of balconies. It has been that way (without balconies) in

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Cahill, Christopher
I wasn't challenging your statement to get you in trouble. I was hoping you had been involved with something and would learnned me. Chris Cahill, PE* Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation Facilities Group Burns McDonnell 8201 Norman Center Drive Bloomington, MN 55437 Phone:  952.656.3652

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Brad Casterline
-Original Message- As If, Mr. Cahill! One quick thing though and then I'll leave this thread alone: Numero uno thing for testing-- VERIFY PROPER FAN ROTATION DIRECTION, (like a fire pump. It might seem impossible to get something so important backwards, but sometimes the fans are

RE: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Tom Duross
10-12 years back, apt complex called the Rosecliff 1/2 mile south down Willard Street from NFPA. BBQ on 2nd level (called a Balcony in the news), up the exterior and into the unsprinklered attic (13R). Nobody died thankfully. I've had Owners argue that the plan says 'deck', so why do I need to

Re: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread John Drucker
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2012-10-15 Thread Bruce Verhei
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Re: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Greenman
No, but you're usually lost in the O3. Ron Greenman ...On the phone On Oct 15, 2012, at 5:01 AM, George Church g...@rowesprinkler.com wrote: Well, I'm a far cry from being on O2 in a wheelchair. Took the TR6 out for an hour yesterday and ran it to 6500 RPM, sometimes sideways (this would

Re: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Greenman
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Re: 13R balcony protection

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Greenman
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Re: Chubb Insurance Company Fall 2012 Hands On Fire Protection Seminars

2012-10-15 Thread Tom
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WHY CAN NOT BE USED BUSHING IN CPVC SPRINKLER PIPE?

2012-10-15 Thread José Gregorio Prada Rodriguez
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WHY CAN NOT BE USED BUSHING IN CPVC SPRINKLER PIPE?

2012-10-15 Thread José Gregorio Prada Rodriguez
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