Re: Older copy of FMG 8-3

2022-01-27 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Already got a response to this. Thanks all On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:03 AM Ben Young wrote: > I'm looking for an older tire storage protection scheme that allows an > overhead density of 0.3/2000 with one level of IRAS at 30 GPM. The current > version of 8-3 doesn't include this anymore. > >

Older copy of FMG 8-3

2022-01-27 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
I'm looking for an older tire storage protection scheme that allows an overhead density of 0.3/2000 with one level of IRAS at 30 GPM. The current version of 8-3 doesn't include this anymore. Does anyone have an older copy (pre 2009) that they could send me off forum? FYI tires are stored in

Re: [EXTERNAL] 23.4.4.2.5: What is the purpose and how does it apply?

2020-12-11 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
So I actually work for the person who submitted this and it actually helps quite a bit. I'm getting ready to leave the office but I'm fill y'all in later this afternoon. On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:19 PM Sean.VanGaal via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Todd, > >

Re: Clearance around all pump equipment

2020-11-07 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
If you have a backflow in the pump room the local water authority may require a set clearance for testing. 3 feet around everything seems a little extreme but it's not like clearance is a bad thing. Does that mean you can't have system risers closer than say 4 feet on center too? On Thu, Nov 5,

Re: Schedule 7 volume

2020-10-28 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Steve, Check out the Wheatland fire sprinkler pipe brochure on their website. There's a chart for megaflow. On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 2:33 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Happy Hump Day Forumites: > > Does anyone have a chart of the capacities

Re: Announcement - AFSA President and our AFSA 39 General Session

2020-10-08 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
John, please make sure Bob gets an account here. hee hee Benjamin Young On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:54 PM John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > I am very pleased with this announcement. Congratulations Bob! > > *The AFSA Board of Directors and AFSA

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Submittal Packages

2020-10-08 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
As a former contractor who now works for an engineering firm, I think it sounds like everyone is being a little bit hard headed on this. I think the requirement for complete submittals can get a little asinine especially when, as John said, its due in two weeks. And John, I wish they said only

Re: FM 8-9

2020-10-01 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Yeah it's 3-0 and there's a formula in there on how to pick the number of heads along a branchline. It's not always intuitive. The length factor is 1.2 now unless a datasheet tells you to use something else. There is so much that goes into a proper FM system design beyond 2-0 and 8-9. Really so

Re: Code requiring inclusion of possible concurrent flow

2020-09-10 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Yeah, house boats lol On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:18 PM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > A residential boat dock? > > > > Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | > craig.pr...@jacobs.com | www.jacobs.com > >

Ethanol unloading exposure protection

2020-09-02 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Does anyone know where I can find some criteria (preferably in FM Global data sheets) on how to provide exposure protection on the exterior of a building wall using dry sidewall heads? I have an insurance company telling me to do this but they didn't give me a basis of design. Trying to stay

Re: Definition of Non-Combustible for hydraulic fluid

2020-07-10 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
My understanding is that this was something FM was looking into a few years back but never got anything that was considered non combustible. So this is actually a bad leftover reference in the code that should be removed. As far as I know there is no such thing as non-combustible hydraulic fluid

Re: Tablet or 4K monitor for viewing PDFs?

2020-06-23 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Is this for one person to look at or multiple people together in a conference room? I have not seen how the prints look on 4k TV's but the current gen 2k monitors will display the PDFs full size very well without loss of detail. I work now with PDFs almost exclusively and it's still weird even

Re: Uprights in non combustible concealed space

2020-06-18 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Ed, thanks for many years of help, information and stories here on the sprinkler forum. Hate to see you go but I get it. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:43 PM Ed Vining via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Not really. The codes and standards determine the decision. >

Re: roll paper storage

2020-06-16 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Sorry, I meant the PLASTICD is going to be pretty small by weight or volume. Benjamin Young On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 8:11 PM Ben Young wrote: > What does the definition of rolled paper say? > > The paper is going to be pretty small weight or volume wise so I'm > thinking class 3, that's a

Re: roll paper storage

2020-06-16 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
What does the definition of rolled paper say? The paper is going to be pretty small weight or volume wise so I'm thinking class 3, that's a total shoot from hip without looking at the code though, so its probably worthless. Benjamin Young On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 3:38 PM Matt Grise via

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: mattress storage

2020-06-04 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Bruce thanks for sharing. This was an interesting story and I appreciate the extra details. Ben On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:10 PM BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > I’ve seen what about 50 of these stored, on side in a non-sprinklered > building can

3D scanning companies in NE Ohio

2020-03-18 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
I'm looking to get in touch with companies that do 3D scanning in the northeastern Ohio area. I would appreciate any contact info or help anyone could provide. Thanks in advance, Benjamin Young ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list

Re: Air Venting

2020-03-06 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
The idea is to get out a majority of the trapped air but not every bit. So in your case you don't need to tie in every sprig and have multiple air vents, you could put it off one of the back sprigs but a remote branch line works too. The other option is to use AGFs in line vent that you can put

Re: electronic PE stamps

2020-03-06 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
I don't have a stamp but I work for an engineering firm that has multiple PEs in offices around the country. We have a couple people that sign electronically and the others that stamp paper and then we scan them in. Wet seals are the worst because then you've got to send them back out. The

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Shell Spaces and Bushed Outlets

2020-02-12 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
I'll definitely include the extra equivalent feet for a mechanical tee since they are pretty severe. For the bushing thing I would say it's basically integral to the tee. My justification for that is if you have to use bushings upstream to create a threaded fitting because one doesn't exist do

Re: high-pressure, extended coverage concealer

2020-02-05 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Reliable has one but it's not flat plate On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:36 AM Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Does anyone know of a high-pressure rated extended coverage concealer? > > > > Matt > > > ___ >

Re: How do you marking up Calc Plates

2020-01-24 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
10 mil thick laminating pouches and a printed placard. It's about as thick as a credit card (IE rigid) UV resistant, waterproof and easily readable. Haven't had anyone complain yet On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 8:18 PM Jamie Seidl via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37)

2020-01-15 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
VIF verify in field On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:49 PM BILL MENSTER via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > NTS. (not too sure) > > On January 14, 2020 at 3:08 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum < > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > > My FAVORITE things

Re: [EXTERNAL] Pipe adjacent to duct

2020-01-15 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Michael it sounds like you need to find some better GCs to work with then On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:51 AM Michael Goodis via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Bim modeling, that’s funny. Never seen it work yet…. Only thing its been > god for is (your duct is in

John Denhardt

2020-01-14 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
John, If you're set up with the new job at AFSA, could you please email me back? I didn't see anything on the website as far as contact info is concerned. I wanted to discuss the upcoming joint meeting in King of Prussia with you. I didn't really have any other way to get in touch with you,

Missing table in chapter 21

2019-12-06 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Does anyone know what happened to Table 22.2.2 in between the 2013 and 2016 editions? Nothing explaining the lack of the table in the annex or handbook commentary that I can see. The table was titled Palletized, solid-piled, bin box, shelf, or back to back shelf storage of class 1 through class 4

Re: deluge sprinkler

2019-10-18 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Just to try and keep this simple as well, if all of that is protected by a one single deluge system then you have to calc it all because its open. That's how deluge systems work, right? If you have separate deluge systems then you have to look at if its possible for a fire to activate more than

Re: ASCOA 246G heads

2019-10-16 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
org> wrote: > Ben, > > I will try to contact some of my old ASCOA buds to see if they kept their > data manuals and let you know. > > > John W. Farabee > > 561-707-5150 > > > > On Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 03:27:29 PM EDT, Ben Young via > Sprinkle

ASCOA 246G heads

2019-10-16 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Does anyone have a cutsheet for the ASCOA 246G sprinkler head? I'm looking to see if they came in 3/4" timeframe would be about 1995. They are the 7mm glass bulb type. I've got a blurry picture and I can't tell the thread size I think they were bought by Grinnell back in the day, so would JCI

Re: Private reply

2019-09-10 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Hey guys that wasn't private. Just a heads up On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 4:30 PM Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > That would definitely get more water to a building... provide jobs and > toilets for the homeless... > > I'm recruiting at a career

Re: Ice Build-up on Linear Heat Detection for Double Interlock Pre-Action Sprinkler System

2019-09-03 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
If there's condensation on the LHD, is there also condensation on the sprinkler piping and or the structure? The correct way to fix this problem is for the owner to build a vestibule or to use forced air blowers to keep the warm air out. Benjamin Young On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:46 AM Mario

Re: N1.85 graph paper

2019-08-27 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
I have one made in cad would that work? On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 PM David Williams via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > I’ve used the forms that are produced by 185 graph ( > http://www.reckonit.com/) as you can put your logo on them $250 and does > some

Re: Dry Flex Balcony Sprinklers

2019-08-20 Thread Ben Young via Sprinklerforum
Don't worry, I'm sure they will be recalled long before they need to be tested On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 11:15 AM Mike Kramer via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Has anyone seen any information about inspecting dry flex balcony > sprinklers after being installed?