VIF verify in field On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:49 PM BILL MENSTER via Sprinklerforum < [email protected]> wrote:
> NTS. (not too sure) > > On January 14, 2020 at 3:08 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum < > [email protected]> wrote: > > My FAVORITE things to put on shop drawings (because it drove our spoiled > union fitters CRAZY) was to write GOE or TOE on an over-cut piece of > pipe. If we were in a big hurry and had no real idea of where or how to > start resolving an issue, I’d use VIF (verify in field). That was always > good for a phone call … > > Steve L. > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kyle.Montgomery > via Sprinklerforum > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:03 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* Kyle.Montgomery; Bruce Verhei > *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > Are you familiar with the term ‘C.O.J.’? > > > > Heheheh… > > > > Just in case you aren’t, it’s not dirty or anything. It means “cut on > job”. > > > > -Kyle M > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bruce > Verhei via Sprinklerforum > *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 7:42 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* Bruce Verhei <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > I’ve never drawn up a fab order. I always assumed you’d need this > information. Do I get it wrong. > > > > Best. > > > > Bruce Verhei > > > On Jan 13, 2020, at 06:15, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I’m curious why there is any confusion over this? > > > > Example: If you have sprinklers on sprigs and don’t provide any elevation > information, the shop drawing reviewer or permit reviewer will have to > calculate the fitting takeouts and sprig lengths to be sure your sprinkler > is within the allowable dimensions from the deck. Without piping > elevations how will the crew know where the pipe is supposed to be routed > so that it doesn’t run into every other system that’s in the same space? > > > > When reviewing calculations, having elevations shown on the drawing that > correlate to the calcs helps verify that the design depicted on drawings > and in the calcs actually match. > > > > Dimensions are great too as well as building column lines for reference. > > > > Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | > [email protected] | www.jacobs.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jacobs.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=k6bX7-6BZdUFWcAVPJQveSYumFauPH46uLuSDiMNXR8&s=q7OHI_NlUyJEu5vqHkQrAH2GWBOZIQIdQhIdDGx-Byw&e=> > > 1041 East Butler Road > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1041+East+Butler+Road+Greenville,+South+Carolina+29606?entry=gmail&source=g> > Greenville, South Carolina > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1041+East+Butler+Road+Greenville,+South+Carolina+29606?entry=gmail&source=g> > 29606 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1041+East+Butler+Road+Greenville,+South+Carolina+29606?entry=gmail&source=g> > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo via Sprinklerforum > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:10 PM > *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] > *Cc:* Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > > Bob, > The committee wants to see relative elevation changes. This helps with > lengths of pipe and calcs too. > We use the word relative because it doesn't need to be Above Sea Level. > (But I think you already know this!!) > > Cecil > > > > > It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the > NFPA, and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance > with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore > not be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the > NFPA, nor any of their technical committees. > > Sincerely, > > > Cecil Bilbo > Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology > Champaign, IL > 217.607.0325 > www.sprinkleracademy.com > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.sprinkleracademy.com__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!XkRGRr99xdaYdXH-7ZtUy7WBSB6JojsVotvM0MEf4HstA0lFb_iFkQjqkCfIZhe8rg$> > [email protected] > ?? > OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> > on behalf of Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:41:36 PM > *To:* [email protected] < > [email protected]> > *Cc:* Bob Knight <[email protected]> > *Subject:* NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37) Relative elevations of > sprinklers, junction points, and supply or reference points. > > This is probably an obvious question, but not to me. What is this asking > for? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Bob Knight, CET III > > Fire by Knight, LLC > > 208-318-3057 > > <image001.jpg> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged > information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by > unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. 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