That is what we are doing. The AHJ told the GC that antifreeze is much
cheaper. I basically told them if they want antifreeze, give the contract
to someone else, I won't put it in a residential use.
*Jay Stough*
NICET IV LAYOUT
NICET III ITM
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Curtis Tower
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On
Behalf Of John Denhardt
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:12 AM
To: 'sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org'
Subject: RE: Antifreeze systems
Legally you might get by. But when the lawyers get done with you knew (or
should have) as an industry
-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On
Behalf Of Mark A. Sornsin, P.E.
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Antifreeze systems
I think the legal case would depend on the harm or potential harm done to
humans. If you were litigating
Wellen
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:42 AM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Antifreeze systems
I'm hearing jurisdictions saying that the antifreeze ban does not apply to
them. It is my understanding that NFPA intended for the new requirements
to apply regardless of what
position.
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On
Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:57 AM
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Subject: RE: Antifreeze systems
I agree with Chris on this one. How can
Jay,
Was protecting the attic with a dry pipe system not an option???
Curtis Tower
Central Fire Protection
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org]
On Behalf Of sprinklerforum-requ...@lists.firesprinkler.org
Sent: Thursday, June 04,
I’m hearing jurisdictions saying that the antifreeze ban does not apply to
them. It is my understanding that NFPA intended for the new requirements to
apply regardless of what standard is in effect.
DO NOT INSTALL NEW ANTIFREEZE SYSTEMS AT THIS TIME.
Wait for the listed solution
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Wellen
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:42 AM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Antifreeze systems
I'm hearing jurisdictions saying that the antifreeze ban does not apply to
them. It is my understanding that NFPA
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Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: Antifreeze systems
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From: rongreenman . rongreen...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wed, Jun 3, 2015 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: Antifreeze systems
The reason I have no hair is local jurisdictions thinking they have a
better
insight into these problems than the committee
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Sent: Wed, Jun 3, 2015 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: Antifreeze systems
The reason I have no hair is local jurisdictions thinking they have a
better
insight into these problems than the committee because they have a
special
problem. I think they want the attic system because they're
afraid
appropriate by the fire marshal. I was under the
impression that after September of 2012 you could not install new
antifreeze systems without listed solution, which at the present time is
not available. He is telling me that it just has to be premixed.
When I go to the NFPA website, at
http
you could not install new
antifreeze systems without listed solution, which at the present time is
not available. He is telling me that it just has to be premixed.
When I go to the NFPA website, at
http://www.nfpa.org/safety-information/for-consumers/fire-and-safety-equipme
nt/home-fire
was under the
impression that after September of 2012 you could not install new
antifreeze systems without listed solution, which at the present time is
not available. He is telling me that it just has to be premixed.
When I go to the NFPA website, at
http://www.nfpa.org/safety-information
I have an AHJ that is telling me to install an antifreeze system in a 13R
attic. They have an ordinance requiring attics to be protected in 13R and
13D systems if deemed appropriate by the fire marshal. I was under the
impression that after September of 2012 you could not install new
antifreeze
appropriate by the fire marshal. I was under the
impression that after September of 2012 you could not install new
antifreeze systems without listed solution, which at the present time is
not available. He is telling me that it just has to be premixed.
When I go to the NFPA website, at
http
piping, and antifreeze.
All the antifreeze systems have expansion tanks, most with about a 2.5 gallon
non-UL listed tanks and only 4 have UL listed tanks. At least 2 of the units
have leaks at present. One with a UL listed Amtrol tank and 1 with a non-UL
plumbing expansion tank. The system
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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:52 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Antifreeze Systems
I see it is listed down to 40 F. Will the strainer not trap water?
Ed Vining
4819 John Muir Rd
Martinez CA 94553
925-228-8792
Cell 787-0465
On Mon
@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Question Regarding Antifreeze Systems
The problem with not filling an AF system completely is that the air will leak
out and be replaced by water from the supply, diluting the mix at the service
entrance, which then eventually dissipates and brings the original protection
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From: George Church [mailto:g...@rowesprinkler.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:06 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Question Regarding Antifreeze Systems
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ed Vining
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:46 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Antifreeze Systems
I throw this out for comment.
This comes a bit late, but I wonder if it is necessary
I throw this out for comment.
This comes a bit late, but I wonder if it is necessary to completely fill
the system. There is always some air trapped in wet pipe systems, and I
wonder how much is too much. Of course the system should be pressurized to
above supply pressure. If it were
I am looking to pump Propylene Glycol into a sprinkler system. The only
problem is the system feeds an attic about 40 feet high and not very
accessible. The capacity is about 100 gallons. Can anybody suggest a pump or
method
of completing this job?
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