RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-13 Thread George Church
, 2012 3:13 PM To: FORUM Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum The requirement is part of the Clean Water Act and has been mandated as part of Federal Law. It is adopted and enforced by every US State's EPA (or equivalent). You can draw the pressure in potable water supplies below 20 psi but then you must

Re: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Owen Evans
Hello Timothy, This is the first post I've seen on 20 psi minimum. Can you give me more details on this? Thanks, Owen Evans -Original Message- From: Timothy W Goins tgo...@rgv.rr.com To: sprinklerforum sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:23 am Subject: 20 PSI

Re: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Jeff Garrison
I'd say they want the Fire Sprinklers to SHUT-OFF if the City water drops below 20 psi. They must consider back-siphonage into the CIty Water system more dangerous than the fire that is NOT getting water poured on it from Sprinklers. I wonder if the Fire Dept. has the same instructions? Jeff

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread George Church
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Owen Evans Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:34 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: 20 PSI Minimum Hello Timothy, This is the first post I've seen on 20 psi minimum. Can you give me more details on this? Thanks, Owen

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Jamey Prentice
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Garrison Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:44 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: 20 PSI Minimum I'd say they want the Fire Sprinklers to SHUT-OFF if the City water drops below 20 psi. They must consider back-siphonage into the CIty Water system

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Craig.Prahl
This is poorly worded for one thing. Typically the mandate of reduction of flow to fire sprinkler systems when the municipal supply pressure falls to or below 20 psi is a requirement of the local water purveyor. This doesn't always result in the water supply being completely shut off, it can

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread MPhelps
Church Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:51 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum Are we talking a low suction cut-off, but of the supply NOT suction to a pump? I suppose the water co wouldn't want the pressure to go below 20, but it flies in the face of all we stand

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Craig.Prahl
-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of mphe...@aerofire.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:56 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum So in this situation, should the responding fire company stop boosting the FDC from a hydrant at 19 PSI? None that I know would

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread George Church
Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum If the water department mandate is to not allow the municipal supply to drop below 20 psi the FD has no choice but to comply and bring in tankers if necessary. This was the plan for a project we had about three years ago where this very requirement was in place

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread MPhelps
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:14 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum If the water department mandate is to not allow the municipal supply to drop below 20 psi the FD has no choice but to comply and bring in tankers if necessary. This was the plan for a project

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo
Champaign, IL 217.607.0325 www.sprinkleracademy.com ce...@sprinkleracademy.com OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! From: g...@rowesprinkler.com To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:20:48 -0500 Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum The surprise comes to those of us on the outside who

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Cahill, Christopher
: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 2:13 PM To: FORUM Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum The requirement is part of the Clean Water Act and has been mandated as part

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo
@firesprinkler.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:14:43 -0600 Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum And don't forget the pressure at the inlet is not the pressure in the system. These parts just in pipe bury there is about 3 psi extra in the main from elevation. A little friction loss and things aren't as bad

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Timothy W Goins
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:52 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum I read it to mean that they do not want the design flow of the sprinklers to draw the municipal water service below 20 PSI, this happens quite often with pump installs. Regards, Jamey

RE: 20 PSI Minimum

2012-11-12 Thread Craig.Prahl
- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Timothy W Goins Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 5:06 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: 20 PSI Minimum Thanks to all for your comments... Systems are to protect