Re: dry grid prohibition/PE Responsibility?

2012-06-12 Thread ACCENTFIRE
Gentlemen: It would seem to me when George sits down in a meeting with (original) sprinkler company and AHJ, the Project Professional Engineer (if alive - especially if still licensed) should also be called to attend. I believe George referenced a 'seal' on the sprinkler plans - or, if the

Re: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread Todd Williams
1994 section 3-2.3.2 says no dry grids, Ditto same section in 1991 At 10:56 AM 6/11/2012, you wrote: Would anyone know when dry grids were taken out of NFPA 13? My recollection is mid 1980's, but don't have a copy to check. We've encountered a dry-pipe system installed circa 1999, purported

RE: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread Daniel Wilder
http://dbase.firesprinkler.org:591/online_archives/tech_interps/FMPro?-db=informal-interps.fp5-format=record_detail.htm-lay=form-recid=12629921-findall= You asked the following question What year did NFPA ban the use of gridded dry pipe systems? In response to your question, we have reviewed the

RE: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread Reed Roisum
: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Wilder Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:04 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: dry grid prohibition http://dbase.firesprinkler.org:591/online_archives/tech_interps/FMPro?-db

RE: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread David Autry
...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Wilder Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:04 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: dry grid prohibition http://dbase.firesprinkler.org:591/online_archives/tech_interps/FMPro?-db=in formal-interps.fp5-format

RE: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread Todd Williams
1989 section 5.2.3.1 includes it in the last sentence. The other editions (at least later ones) had it as a separate section. At 11:03 AM 6/11/2012, you wrote:

Re: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread Ron Greenman
And you have to determine what edition was in use by the jurisdiction at the time of the installation. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Todd Williams t...@fpdc.com wrote: 1989 section 5.2.3.1 includes it in the last sentence. The other editions (at least later ones) had it as a separate

RE: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread George Church
-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 12:10 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: dry grid prohibition And you have to determine what edition was in use by the jurisdiction at the time of the installation. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:16 AM

RE: dry grid prohibition

2012-06-11 Thread Cahill, Christopher
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:57 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: dry grid prohibition Well, it's a nursing home in PA so it's under the 1999 edition of 13 for the addition we're pricing. HOWEVER, the original system