RE: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Matt Grise
The pump will still boost its inlet pressure. If you use the FDC to boost the inlet pressure to 175, then the pump will discharge 175 + pump pressure. Could be too much. Matt From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Seidl Sent: Wednesday,

FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Jamie Seidl
I have always installed FDC's on the discharge side of fire pumps. Looking through 2013 NFPA 20, I don't see anything precluding the instillation on the supply side. Is the FDC allowed to be installed on the supply? I have a contractor that has installed the FDC on the supply run-in, instead of

Re: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Jamie Seidl
Thanks everyone. I knew why, I just couldn't remember where. > > On Jan 31, 2018 at 4:34 PM, mailto:jnor...@rlhfp.com)> wrote: > > > > > > Last time I looked the FDC was not allowed on the suction side.That > requirement was in NFPA 13 under

RE: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Tom Duross
What Larry said.. And there can’t be any valves between the FDC and the FDV’s on the standpipe unless you have more than one standpipe and have isolation valves at the base of each standpipe so you can’t take them off the riser manifold, for example. TD The requirement is from NFPA 13,

RE: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Jason Norton
Last time I looked the FDC was not allowed on the suction side. That requirement was in NFPA 13 under the FDC location section. Jason Norton, PE – RLH Fire Protection Direct: (661) 410-1334, Mobile: (661) 979-6301, Fax: (661) 322-6816 Mailing Address: PO Box 42470, Bakersfield, CA 93384 From:

RE: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Larry Keeping
The requirement is from NFPA 13, not from NFPA 20. Here is the text from NFPA 13-2013: 8.17.2.4.8 Fire department connections shall not be connected on the suction side of fire pumps. Larry Keeping From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of

RE: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
The FDC is for pressurizing the loop in the event that the main fire pump is out of service and you have to use the pumper apparatus. Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME Direct - 864.920.7540 Fax - 864.920.7129 Direct Extension 77540 CH2M is now Jacobs. 200 Verdae Blvd. Greenville,

RE: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Tom Duross
and also allowed, the FDC check…. duh What Larry said.. And there can’t be any valves between the FDC and the FDV’s on the standpipe unless you have more than one standpipe and have isolation valves at the base of each standpipe so you can’t take them off the riser manifold, for

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: FDC & Pump

2018-01-31 Thread Kyle . Montgomery
I disagree. From NFPA 13, 2016 edition: 8.17.2.4.3 For multiple systems, the fire department connection shall be connected between the supply control valve and the system control valves. Wouldn’t that be on the riser manifold? The handbook even goes on to explain why this would be the