Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New warning message in server.log after 8.2 update
Thank you both. > To identify the code (e.g. plugin) to fix, what was playing when the > error was logged? Nothing playing at all, actually. The error comes up also right after restarting LMS and playing nothing: [21-04-25 06:32:48.4447] main::init (389) Starting Logitech Media Server (v8.2.0, 1618550339, Fri Apr 16 07:52:14 CEST 2021) perl 5.032000 - aarch64-linux-thread-multi [21-04-25 06:34:09.0741] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1324) Warning: [06:34:09.0737] Wide character (U+220F) in uc at /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/Template/Filters.pm line 53. Recent plugin updates: - UPnP/DLNA Bridge (v.1.49.13) - see 'here' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103728-Announce-UPnPBridge-integrate-UPnP-DLNA-players-with-LMS-(squeeze2upnp)) and 'here' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lms-plugins-philippe44/) - Mixcloud (v.0.6) - see 'here' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?88286-Mixcloud-plugin/page39) Best regards, jasc audio chain: 'raspberry pi 4b 8gb' (https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/) > 'picoreplayer 7.0.1 64-bit' (https://picoreplayer.org/) > 'logitech media server 8.1.2' (http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.1) > 'upnp/dlna bridge' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103728-announce-upnpbridge-integrate-upnp-dlna-players-with-lms-(squeeze2upnp)) > 'linn majik dsm/2' (https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/majik_dsm_/2_(2015_variant)) > 'linn majik exaktbox-i' (https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/majik_exaktbox-i) > 'linn majik 140 aktiv' (https://www.linn.co.uk/music-systems/majik/140) jasc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114446 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
Well, I have 6 SB radios and one boom box running fine for a long time. No hiccups at all. The slim device hooked to the stereo is struggling. Will connect to the wireless network fine. Then connects to LMS fine. Then it acts like it will be fine and will scroll through menus and submenus, but when I ask it to actually play something the little wheel spins (I didn't know it had a wheel) for a long time and will eventually do what I ask but then drops frequently, rebuffers constantly, and may lose the network eventually. There is something different about the slim device. I haven't treated it any differently than the rest. The Orbi router assigns a IP address not in conflict with anything to it. But there is something going on unique to the slim device. Wouldn't want this to be too easy... LB LovelyBrook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
Greg Erskine wrote: > Here's what I do for piCorePlayer. > > 34384 Aha! That did it Greg. And I've now changed my owners/group for those two albums. Thanks all, again I learned several new things here. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dbpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
Here's what I do for piCorePlayer. 34384 +---+ |Filename: sudo.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34384| +---+ Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New warning message in server.log after 8.2 update
SpiderJon wrote: > Looks like it, yes. > > "What is a "wide character"? > > "This is a term used for characters occupying more than one byte. > > "The Perl warning "Wide character in ..." is caused by such a character. > With no specified encoding layer, Perl tries to fit things into a single > byte. When it can't, it emits this warning (if warnings are enabled), > and uses UTF-8 encoded data instead." > > > > From > https://perldoc.perl.org/perlunifaq#What-is-a-%22wide-character%22? The character is in fact Capital PI. Metadata in stream can be UTF encoded and so can get wide characters. Occasionally BBC used to put a wide character which was a wide space. LMS now normally handle UTF characters OK. Support ofr UTF was added over the years. This could be a piece of code that was forgotten or the source is using UT when it shoudlnt;/ To identify the code (e.g. plugin) to fix, what was playing when the error was logged ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114446 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
RobbH wrote: > Good work! "Whatever works" works! > > I could not (and still can't) find how to turn off "ax" in the online > version of your Orbi system's manual that I've been consulting. Good job > finding that! > > Incidentally, I also use powerline networking. While not as good as > dedicated ethernet, it works reasonably well most of the time. There are > occasional glitches, but it's much more reliable than wifi in my house. > > If, at some time in the future, you still have devices connected to the > T-Mobile modem/router and you have problems getting them to communicate > with devices connected to the Orbi, you may have to consider Access > Point mode again. As long as there are no problems, there's no need for > you to worry about it. (Assuming no security risks are involved.) I shut down the Tmobile to all but the Orbi line to it for Internet. I took a screenshot of the page where the disable ax option exists. Hope this helps. On to other chores! +---+ |Filename: Screenshot 2021-04-24 11.49.05.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34383| +---+ LovelyBrook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > Update ... in fact it works well. Shows that it is worth experimenting! > > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105198-ANNOUNCE-AirPlay-Bridge-integrate-AirPlay-devices-with-LMS-(squeeze2raop)=1020137=1#post1020137 > and the post that follows it. Great stuff, thanks for testing and confirming this. Makes getting that second Zipp Mini harder to resist... hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
LovelyBrook wrote: > Please read my earlier updates from today. All problems have been > solved. Thanks all for your good brains. I apologize to be in whatever > works mode, but it is definitely working now. Good work! "Whatever works" works! I could not (and still can't) find how to turn off "ax" in the online version of your Orbi system's manual that I've been consulting. Good job finding that! Incidentally, I also use powerline networking. While not as good as dedicated ethernet, it works reasonably well most of the time. There are occasional glitches, but it's much more reliable than wifi in my house. If, at some time in the future, you still have devices connected to the T-Mobile modem/router and you have problems getting them to communicate with devices connected to the Orbi, you may have to consider Access Point mode again. As long as there are no problems, there's no need for you to worry about it. (Assuming no security risks are involved.) LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
P Nelson wrote: > Please post your findings and solutions on the following thread so that > others can see the solution: > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109953-WiFi-connection-unstable-lost-on-three-Radios/page18 > > This is not really about LMS, but is about the SB radios having a > problem. The fact you were able to make adjustments to Orbi's settings > and fix the problem is a step forward. In addition, POMdev is more > likely to see your post as POMDev is working on a solution on the SB > Radio side and this might be helpful. As usual, provide as much detail > as you can, sometimes it is the small things that make a difference. > > I am not sure what you mean by "ax features on 2.4". Perhaps the Orbi > manual provides more detail. > > Thanks for posting and glad you were able to find a solution! :) > > Now if I can find which neighbor is running a mesh network and get him > or her to adjust the settings! I posted enough of the solution to get people reading and looking at this thread for all the details. The Orbi router has a setting that simply allows you to uncheck a box to "disable ax features" on 2.4 and/or 5.0 bands. I just did it on 2.4. The ax features is part of the new protocol that I believe is part of "wireless 6." So it is running on older protocols I assume, ac or n or ? that doesn't cause the SB's to seize up. I don't notice a difference in speed. Good luck. I'm sure this particular setting is specific to Orbi but others may have something like it. LB LovelyBrook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
LovelyBrook wrote: > > Update #2: > > We may have a solution. Disabling "ax features on 2.4" in the Orbi > router interface (Advanced/Setup/Wireless seems to have done the trick. > I have 3 SB's running on Orbi mesh wireless communicating with LMS, > playing library and streaming. Two are even synced without problems. > Now it is a matter of time and longevity of connection. Has been an > hour. New record. > > A bonus: my older security cameras started falling off the Orbi network > also. They would not recognize the main network, only the [Name of > Network]_EXT SSID. That worked initially but after 10 days was getting > shaky. When I disabled the ax features, the cameras recognized the main > network and the connection now seems solid. > > So, barring surprises, I seem to have solved my problem related to Orbi, > SB's, and old cameras. I will report back if there are additional > problems. > > Maybe you techie folks can figure out how this helped. Have no idea > what wireless protocol is running on 2.4 now with "ax features disabled" > but it works. I am happy not to go to AP mode and happy (at the moment) > not to mess with DHCP. > > Happy Saturday, > > LB Please post your findings and solutions on the following thread so that others can see the solution: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109953-WiFi-connection-unstable-lost-on-three-Radios/page18 This is not really about LMS, but is about the SB radios having a problem. The fact you were able to make adjustments to Orbi's settings and fix the problem is a step forward. In addition, POMdev is more likely to see your post as POMDev is working on a solution on the SB Radio side and this might be helpful. As usual, provide as much detail as you can, sometimes it is the small things that make a difference. I am not sure what you mean by "ax features on 2.4". Perhaps the Orbi manual provides more detail. Thanks for posting and glad you were able to find a solution! :) Now if I can find which neighbor is running a mesh network and get him or her to adjust the settings! P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
LovelyBrook wrote: > Ok. I have read everything above and followed all the links. > > I apologise for speaking in simplistic terms but here are current > questions. One of the links took me to a 15 page thread that got into a > lot of very technical stuff re versions, updates, bugs, reprogramming > radios through direct logins, etc. I dont have time or skills for that > so have to hope that something less technical can fix my problem. > > So far, from the discussion, it seems having double DHCP, firewall, etc > is the suspected culprit according to some contributors. > > Others seem to imply that the wireless 6 technology is the culprit and > if I turn off all wireless from the tmobile router modem, the double > DHCP issue may not be a true problem. Each device has its own basic (I > know this is the wrong term) address that I use to get to their web > interface and they are different, so having that IP address be the > same in both devices is not an issue. > > Some strongly advise AP mode which would fix the double issue. My > question re AP mode is whether it fixes the possible wireless 6 issue? > Going to AP mode is labor intensive in terms of what appears to be > creating a new network and reconnecting everything. > > I have a suspicion that the wireless 6 issue is the culprit and perhaps > does require very technical patches etc as in the long thread mentioned > above. If I am right, then hardwiring seems the easier solution. > People dont like power adapters but theoretically it supplies a > hardwire fix. The one SB radio I have plugged in on ethernet to the > Orbi is still going strong. I am going to experiment with it using an > old power hardwire adapter I use for a weather station. This has been > working fine for years. (This could be a Saturday night live routine > pretty soon.) > > Many suggest the LMS needs to be hardwired. But my LMS is on a computer > that is on the wireless Orbi mesh system and it is speaking to the > hardwired SB radio just fine. I plan to try to hardwire the LMS > computer to the Orbi and then experiment with an SB radio on the orbi > wireless to see if that combination makes a difference. > > So, my current questions are: > > is it worth trying AP mode if you believe wireless 6 is the issue? > > Are there other types of adapters for each SB radio other than powerline > adapters that will convert or transform the wireless 6 signal into the > older version of n protocol wireless signal? I saw some links to > wireless extenders that plugged into power, then appeared to have a hard > wire ethernet cable into a device. I am wondering if these might tame > the wireless 6 issue. I have no idea what they are doing in a super > technical way in converting the wireless signal into something going > through a cable. > > Sorry not to be an IT pro, but probably there are other civilians who > can perhaps follow some of this and figure out fixes for the > non-technical SB system fans. > > Thank you in advance. > > LB > > Update #1: > > SB Radio "hard wired" via power adapter working fine. > > Putting laptop with LMS on ethernet wired connection to Orbi doesn't > seem to make a difference. The SB's I try to hook wirelessly to Orbi > will play for 5 min then disconnect. It made it more likely, they would > connect at all, but they don't stay connected. > > There is a router setting on Orbi that allows me to "disable" ax > features on either 2.4 and/or 5.0. Going to try to disable on 2.4. Not > sure if these are the related features to "wireless 6" that may be > causing trouble. > > :) > > Update #2: > > We may have a solution. Disabling "ax features on 2.4" in the Orbi > router interface (Advanced/Setup/Wireless seems to have done the trick. > I have 3 SB's running on Orbi mesh wireless communicating with LMS, > playing library and streaming. Two are even synced without problems. > Now it is a matter of time and longevity of connection. Has been an > hour. New record. > > A bonus: my older security cameras started falling off the Orbi network > also. They would not recognize the main network, only the [Name of > Network]_EXT SSID. That worked initially but after 10 days was getting > shaky. When I disabled the ax features, the cameras recognized the main > network and the connection now seems solid. > > So, barring surprises, I seem to have solved my problem related to Orbi, > SB's, and old cameras. I will report back if there are additional > problems. > > Maybe you techie folks can figure out how this helped. Have no idea > what wireless protocol is running on 2.4 now with "ax features disabled" > but it works. I am happy not to go to AP mode and happy (at the moment) > not to mess with DHCP. > > Happy Saturday, > > LB Please read my earlier updates from today. All problems have been solved. Thanks all for your good brains. I apologize to be in whatever works mode, but it is definitely working now.
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New warning message in server.log after 8.2 update
jasc wrote: > Probably nothing to get nervous about, but after updating from 8.1.2 to > 8.2.0, I started seeing warning messages like the below show up in > server.log: > > > > > [21-04-24 17:22:32.3410] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1324) Warning: > > [17:22:32.3406] Wide character (U+220F) in uc at > > /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/Template/Filters.pm line 53.> > > > I am running piCorePlayer 7.0.1 but posting here since I assume this > is more with LMS than with pCP (but could be wrong). I am guessing it > is related to UTF-8 and Perl. Looks like it, yes. "What is a "wide character"? "This is a term used for characters occupying more than one byte. "The Perl warning "Wide character in ..." is caused by such a character. With no specified encoding layer, Perl tries to fit things into a single byte. When it can't, it emits this warning (if warnings are enabled), and uses UTF-8 encoded data instead." >From https://perldoc.perl.org/perlunifaq#What-is-a-%22wide-character%22? Duet x 3, via various hi-fi. LMS on Raspberry Pi OS (Debian 10) on a Pi4. SpiderJon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21798 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114446 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
Totally agree with robbh! In my opinion, ap mode is a must. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's (SB2, SB3, Boom, Touch) *Server:* LMS on Pi3B+ 8.1.2 on PcP 7.0.1 *Network:* Draytek, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, Ubiquiti PoE, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Parsing semicolons in Artist tag - Material or LMS?
Robert, Thank you. Never in a decade noticed that setting! Now I must edit my Artist tag, but I know what to do and what not to do. Best regards! On 4/23/21 11:50 PM, Grumpy Bob wrote: I regularly use semicolons to separate several artists in the Album Artist tag, and the behaviour you see in your screenshots is the outcome (and desired outcome for my usage). If you are wanting your semicolon punctuated artist lists to remain as a single tag, check out the 'My Music' tab of the LMS settings screen, where you can change the 'Separator for Multiple Items in Tags' which I think is set to semicolon by default. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 4/pCP7.0/LMS8.1.2/Material with files on QNAP TS-251A Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3) 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), 1 x SqueezeAMP *Office:* LMS8.0.0 running on Raspberry Pi3; Raspberry Pi 3 player with touchscreen/piCorePlayer/IQaudIO DAC and Amp *Portable:* Raspberry Pi 3B/pCP7.0.1/LMS8.1.2/Material, files on Seagate portable drive, powered via power brick Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114443 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter -- -- “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of human existence.” ― Aristotle ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New warning message in server.log after 8.2 update
Probably nothing to get nervous about, but after updating from 8.1.2 to 8.2.0, I started seeing warning messages like the below show up in server.log: > [21-04-24 17:22:32.3410] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1324) Warning: > [17:22:32.3406] Wide character (U+220F) in uc at > /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/Template/Filters.pm line 53. I am running piCorePlayer 7.0.1 but posting here since I assume this is more with LMS than with pCP (but could be wrong). I am guessing it is related to UTF-8 and Perl. Best, jasc audio chain: 'raspberry pi 4b 8gb' (https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/) > 'picoreplayer 7.0.1 64-bit' (https://picoreplayer.org/) > 'logitech media server 8.1.2' (http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.1) > 'upnp/dlna bridge' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103728-announce-upnpbridge-integrate-upnp-dlna-players-with-lms-(squeeze2upnp)) > 'linn majik dsm/2' (https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/majik_dsm_/2_(2015_variant)) > 'linn majik exaktbox-i' (https://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/majik_exaktbox-i) > 'linn majik 140 aktiv' (https://www.linn.co.uk/music-systems/majik/140) jasc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114446 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
Since your Ethernet connected SB radio works, I think you confirmed you have a wifi6 or mesh network problem. I do not have the expertise as others here, but here are my observations or suggestions. This is based upon the assumption you still need a wifi6 or mesh network. Removing the orbi would solve the problem. 1 Return the Orbi and try another manufacturer. Maybe other implementation does. P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
This is very unlikely, but if your devices that require WPS could all use the 5 GHz band, my suggestion would be to disable 2.4 GHz wifi on the Orbi system. Then you would continue to use the T-Mobile modem/router 2.4 Ghz wifi for your Squeeze devices. You are probably right that switching the Orbi to Access Point mode will not solve any problems relating to Wifi 6. I see that other people report success after turning off Fast Switching and Fast Scanning on Wifi 6 systems. I've been through the manual for your system, and I do not see any way to disable these options. But I have no experience with mesh. I hope someone who knows more can explain how this could be done for your system, if it is possible. Whatever approach you take, you probably need to switch the Orbi to Access Point mode. Having two DHCP servers running will continue to cause problems. If you'll be patient with me, I'm going to attempt a grossly oversimplified explanation of your networking gear: What we call a "router" for use in home networking is actually a combination of devices. It usually includes at least the following: 1. a switch, which makes it possible for multiple wired devices to connect 2. an access point, which makes it possible for multiple wireless devices to connect 3. the actual router, which includes a DHCP server and serves as a sort of traffic cop, deciding what data packets can go where as they travel to and from the various connected devices. If you have multiple DHCP servers running, it's rather like having two traffic cops at either end of a block, giving conflicting directions. Collisions are likely. When you switch a "router" to AP mode, you are simply turning of the DHCP server. After that, it does no routing, but the wireless access point and the switch continue to work. As long as there is an upstream DHCP server (the T-Mobile modem/router, to which the Orbi is connected) traffic should be routed correctly to the devices connected to the AP. (I think AP mode would probably also correct any problems with conflicting firewalls.) Yes, it may well be that you will have to reconfigure all your networks after switching the Orbi to AP mode. Only you can decide if the hassle is worth dealing with in order to make things work. (And of course, as always, I can't guarantee that any of my suggestions will work!) My final suggestion; do not do ANYTHING purely on the basis of my recommendations! Wait for other, more knowledgeable people to chime in and see if there's any sort of consensus. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Orbi Mesh and Inability to Connect
Ok. I have read everything above and followed all the links. I apologise for speaking in simplistic terms but here are current questions. One of the links took me to a 15 page thread that got into a lot of very technical stuff re versions, updates, bugs, reprogramming radios through direct logins, etc. I dont have time or skills for that so have to hope that something less technical can fix my problem. So far, from the discussion, it seems having double DHCP, firewall, etc is the suspected culprit according to some contributors. Others seem to imply that the wireless 6 technology is the culprit and if I turn off all wireless from the tmobile router modem, the double DHCP issue may not be a true problem. Each device has its own basic (I know this is the wrong term) address that I use to get to their web interface and they are different, so having that IP address be the same in both devices is not an issue. Some strongly advise AP mode which would fix the double issue. My question re AP mode is whether it fixes the possible wireless 6 issue? Going to AP mode is labor intensive in terms of what appears to be creating a new network and reconnecting everything. I have a suspicion that the wireless 6 issue is the culprit and perhaps does require very technical patches etc as in the long thread mentioned above. If I am right, then hardwiring seems the easier solution. People dont like power adapters but theoretically it supplies a hardwire fix. The one SB radio I have plugged in on ethernet to the Orbi is still going strong. I am going to experiment with it using an old power hardwire adapter I use for a weather station. This has been working fine for years. (This could be a Saturday night live routine pretty soon.) Many suggest the LMS needs to be hardwired. But my LMS is on a computer that is on the wireless Orbi mesh system and it is speaking to the hardwired SB radio just fine. I plan to try to hardwire the LMS computer to the Orbi and then experiment with an SB radio on the orbi wireless to see if that combination makes a difference. So, my current questions are: is it worth trying AP mode if you believe wireless 6 is the issue? Are there other types of adapters for each SB radio other than powerline adapters that will convert or transform the wireless 6 signal into the older version of n protocol wireless signal? I saw some links to wireless extenders that plugged into power, then appeared to have a hard wire ethernet cable into a device. I am wondering if these might tame the wireless 6 issue. I have no idea what they are doing in a super technical way in converting the wireless signal into something going through a cable. Sorry not to be an IT pro, but probably there are other civilians who can perhaps follow some of this and figure out fixes for the non-technical SB system fans. Thank you in advance. LB LovelyBrook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114379 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
Thanks. I've tried SCP, setup identical to yours. I get this error message upon login: 34363 +---+ |Filename: Capture.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34363| +---+ *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dbpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Update ... in fact it works well. Shows that it is worth experimenting! https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105198-ANNOUNCE-AirPlay-Bridge-integrate-AirPlay-devices-with-LMS-(squeeze2raop)=1020137=1#post1020137 and the post that follows it. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > You can experiment set the "Output Channel Mode" for the device ... > (Left/Right/Mono) ... and see if it filters as you would hope > LMS/Settings/Player/the airplay device/Audio > > If it does then you should be able to set one as left and one as right > and then put them in a sync group ... might work. > > Would mean that if you wanted to have just one playing by itself then > you would have to go back to the settings and make it Stereo (and have > the device combine) or Mono (and let LMS/bridge? combine). > > Good experiment.[/QUOTE > > I just tried the LMS-only with 2 AirPlay speakers ... and it did not > work. > LMS was happy to let me set the audio as Left or Right only - but both > channels were output at the speaker when played via AirPlay plugin. > So I assume that AirPlay plugin does not take that LMS setting into > account. > I'll ask on Airplay Bridge plugin. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
garym wrote: > I can't seem to do this. Looks like I go into winscp > advanced > > Environment > SFTP and in the dropdown for server choose this. But when > I do (and save and then try to connect to the rPi, it fails to connect. > > 34359 > > > I no longer have a copy of the old files, but even with the new files, > the folders have the root[0] owner and group and all the same > permissions as my other files, even though the files within the folders > have the different permissions and group/owner (tc[1001]). I am using SCP rather than SFTP. +---+ |Filename: winscp.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34362| +---+ slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
kidstypike wrote: > A simple way to compare 2 sets of data in Excel. > Cool! Thanks. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dbpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
slartibartfast wrote: > There is an option in WinSCP to log in with superuser privileges. This > would have allowed you to change the file properties. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I can't seem to do this. Looks like I go into winscp > advanced > Environment > SFTP and in the dropdown for server choose this. But when I do (and save and then try to connect to the rPi, it fails to connect. 34359 d6jg wrote: > It is possible that the folder permissions rather than file permissions > were to blame but glad its sorted anyway and youve learned a few > things along the way. I no longer have a copy of the old files, but even with the new files, the folders have the root[0] owner and group and all the same permissions as my other files, even though the files within the folders have the different permissions and group/owner (tc[1001]). +---+ |Filename: Capture.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34359| +---+ *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dbpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > You can sync them through the Libratone app but I only have one so cant > try it either way Me too, I'm thinking about getting another one, which is why I asked... decisions decisions... Thanks everybody for the advice. hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > I consider my new Zipp Mini to be more than adequate for the garden and > ad-hoc around the house use. For £40 I am very happy. I have revealed > it to my wife, she was impressed (phew!) How do you add your system info to the footer of your posts? I thought it might be useful for you know what my level is. I'll put it here for now: SERVER Content: Mostly CD rips on NAS (16/44.1 flac) Gigabit ethernet LMS: RPi 3B+ running DietPi with LMS MAIN SYSTEM Gigabit ethernet Player: RPi3 running piCorePlayer (squeezelite only) 5ft Gen3.1 USB A to C cable (cheapo braided one off Amazon) DAC: Khadas Toneboard inside old Black Magic chocolate tin Blue Jeans Cable LC-1 RCA cables Amp: ProLogue PrimaLuna Two Belden 8471 equiv biwired Speakers: IPL Acoustics M3TL transmission line kit hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > My Zipp 2 (full size) still hasn't shipped ... purchase not yet revealed > ... 46GBP inc shipping from Brighton (assuming it turns up). That has AirPlay 2 so please report how it plays with the bridge VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
My Zipp 2 (full size) still hasn't shipped ... purchase not yet revealed ... 46GBP inc shipping from Brighton (assuming it turns up). Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > Id be interested to hear what new orders think of SQ I consider my new Zipp Mini to be more than adequate for the garden and ad-hoc around the house use. For £40 I am very happy. I have revealed it to my wife, she was impressed (phew!) hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
My last post was over-optimistic. The Library Views scheme is certainly a successful way to cue up an alternative set of tracks. But, despite what I thought at first, the degree of randomness of those tracks delivered by Random Mix remains poor. I suppose it was naive to expect it could be any different. >From my experience, Random Mix is a misnomer and cant deliver much beyond the same artists and tracks over and over again. But it would be great if someone could point out that Im still missing some hidden LMS trick that can deliver proper randomness. whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
It is possible that the folder permissions rather than file permissions were to blame but glad its sorted anyway and youve learned a few things along the way. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
garym wrote: > They did have different properties than my other files. For example, > the files that didn't scan on the rpi3B+ had the following properties > (but note the files on the USB drive attached to the rPi4B also had > these exact same properties): > > 34341 > > But the converted file (flac to flac), after uploading to the USB > hardrive connected to the rPi3B+ had exactly the same properties as > above. And it works now. By the way, other files, including > downloaded purchases from Neil Young store (Archives Vol II, 24/192) > have the properties below instead. (trying to change the group and > owner properties above on the earlier different properties files in > winscp to be the same (root[0]) was not allowed by the way). > > 34342 There is an option in WinSCP to log in with superuser privileges. This would have allowed you to change the file properties. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track count different between rPi3B+ and rPi4B, running same version of LMS
A simple way to compare 2 sets of data in Excel. Select all cells that contain your data > Right click > Quick Analysis > Unique. 34346 34347 +---+ |Filename: CF04.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34347| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.2.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP v7.0.1 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B/pCP 7.0.1/pi screen/AlloBoss DAC HAT/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 6.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114437 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Music on my NAS not indexed in My Music
peterjk wrote: > Thanks, I started the Pi first. So that explains one part of the > problem; I won't make that mistake again. > But now I have a bigger problem, because after checking the box and > restarting the Pi, I can't reach the Pi anymore over the network. The > router sees it, but when trying to open PcP on its address, it says the > server (i.e. PcP) isn't responding. Unplugging and restarting the Pi > didn't change anything. So I guess all I can do is start all over again > with a fresh install of PcP. Unless someone knows what else can be > done. > > PeterHas the IP address changed? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114435 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
