Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Ivailo Dobrev]

For presence AS use Kamailio !

* and FS (B2BUA) use for media related services.

On 11/22/2017 03:07 PM, Amar Tinawi wrote:


My tests results :

Unfortunately, no scenario was success, maybe because Asterisk does 
not support sh interface (Diameter)


My test was for presence service and couldn’t get it done.

The results of Having asterisk as an AS with kamailio IMS : with sip 
trunk configured towards S-cscf


 And whether the user is identified in Asterisk as extension user or 
not asterisk responded with 404 user not found.


As I say already, for subscriber specific/related services you should 
make something AS to have access to that subscriber data(provision * too 
for PoC for example). For subscriber unrelated services only SIP 
routing/dial-plans are needed.


And really, do not forget Kamailio as an IMS AS option when B2BUA is not 
needed :)


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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Amar Tinawi]

My tests results : 

Unfortunately, no scenario was success, maybe because Asterisk does not support 
sh interface (Diameter)

My test was for presence service and couldn’t get it done.

The results of Having asterisk as an AS with kamailio IMS : with sip trunk 
configured towards S-cscf 
 And whether the user is identified in Asterisk as extension user or not 
asterisk responded with 404 user not found.



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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Amar Tinawi]

Thanks Ivo

I’ll test and report back

Many thanks, and any future note or document will be very pleased 

Cheers 
Ammar 

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From: Ivailo Dobrev
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:29 PM
To: sr-users@lists.kamailio.org
Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

Hello,
Comment inline.
Hope I'm helping,
Ivo
On 11/21/2017 12:32 PM, Amar Tinawi wrote:

Thank you Daniel : 

Actually i followed your tutorial, but in case of IMS the modifications should 
be on (my assumption) S-CSCF, in this case all routing block should be routed 
towards AS ? 

In order to route the call to Asterisk you should define it as AS/MMtel in your 
HSS. Define proper TP and iFC for the subscriber profiles.

i followed also Mr Carsten Bock videos on kamailio World conferences for the 
years 2015 - 2016 - 2017 and he mentioned clearly that any application that 
talk sip can operate as an AS, and he mentioned Asterisk and FreeSwitch as an 
example
Thanks Mojtaba, i followed this video but the video at the end shows that the 
users still in offline mode after registration, is that right ?
My questions are : 
- should i configure Asterisk in a way to be AS for kamailio IMS ? 
For sure you should configure Asterisk to handle originating and terminating 
call legs from/to S-CSCF. From Asterisk perspective the easiest way is S-CSCF 
to be a SIP trunk. (Note that this may not be 100% true and depends on the 
design)

- should the users be identified in Asterisk Database in order to make a 
correlation ? or asterisk can pull users profiles from HSS ?
As far I know there is no DIAMETER/Sh support in Asterisk. Related and to Q 
below too.

- Do we have to perform any configuration over HSS to identify sh interface 
with Asterisk ?  
You have  2 options in general here, to have or not subscribers in Asterisk. 
Easiest way is to not. Assuming that all your subscribers are same from service 
point of view you can handle everything in routing w/o having any subscriber 
profile in Asterisk. Second option is a matter of design and there is no simple 
answer.

Keep in mind that SIP and IMS services differs. When using * or FreeSWITCH as 
SIP MMtel w/ SIP clients in IMS env, you can relatively easy implement known 
SIP services. Implementing MMTel IMS services w/ IMS clients is a different 
story. 

if you can send me the Astricon video it would be great
Thanks, 
Ammar 


On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla  
wrote:
Hello,

personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at
documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of
stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.

On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock (one of
the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about using
Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo
area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are
already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be
released soon.

Cheers,
Daniel


On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
> Hello,
> Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk
> working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg
> With Regards. Mojtaba
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi  wrote:
>> Dears;
>> Good day !
>>
>> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the
>> kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension
>> number.
>>
>> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the registration process  and
>> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users
>> to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice
>> mail ... etc)
>>
>> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user
>> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send
>> notify to asterisk .
>>
>>
>>
>> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if
>> it is possible to be done.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ammar
>>
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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[amar.tin...@gmail.com]

Thanks a lot Ivalio, i'll do some tests and report back.Sent from my Huawei Mobile Original Message Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBXFrom: Ivailo Dobrev To: sr-users@lists.kamailio.orgCC: 
  
  
Hello,
Comment inline.
Hope I'm helping,
Ivo

On 11/21/2017 12:32 PM, Amar Tinawi wrote:

  Thank you Daniel :


Actually i followed your
tutorial, but in case of IMS the modifications should be on
(my assumption) S-CSCF, in this case all routing block
should be routed towards AS ? 

  
  

In order to route the call to Asterisk you should define it as
AS/MMtel in your HSS. Define proper TP and iFC for the subscriber
profiles.

  
i followed also Mr Carsten Bock videos on kamailio World conferences for the years 2015 - 2016 - 2017 and he mentioned clearly that any application that talk sip can operate as an AS, and he mentioned Asterisk and FreeSwitch as an example




Thanks Mojtaba, i followed this video but the video at the end shows that the users still in offline mode after registration, is that right ?


My questions are : 
- should i configure Asterisk in a way to be AS for kamailio IMS ? 
  

For
sure you should configure Asterisk to handle originating and
terminating call legs from/to S-CSCF. From Asterisk perspective
the easiest way is S-CSCF to be a SIP trunk. (Note that this may
not be 100% true and depends on the design)

  
- should the users be identified in Asterisk Database in order to make a correlation ? or  asterisk can pull users profiles from HSS ?
  

As far
I know there is no DIAMETER/Sh support in Asterisk. Related and
to Q below too.

  
- Do
  we have to perform any configuration over HSS to identify sh
  interface with Asterisk ?  


  

You have  2 options in general here, to have or not subscribers in
Asterisk. Easiest way is to not. Assuming that all your subscribers
are same from service point of view you can handle everything in
routing w/o having any subscriber profile in Asterisk. Second option
is a matter of design and there is no simple answer.

Keep in mind that SIP and IMS services differs. When using * or
FreeSWITCH as SIP MMtel w/ SIP clients in IMS env, you can
relatively easy implement known SIP services. Implementing MMTel IMS
services w/ IMS clients is a different story. 

  
if you can send me the Astricon video it would be great



Thanks, 
Ammar 


  
  
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM,
  Daniel-Constantin Mierla 
  wrote:
  Hello,

personally I do not have any time these days to search or
look at
documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be
-- a lot of
stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.

On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten
Bock (one of
the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation
about using
Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in
Astricon expo
area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from
Astricon are
already published and you can watch it, if not, probably
they will be
released soon.

Cheers,
Daniel

  

On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
> Hello,
> Maybe this link be useful to understanding the
concept of Asterisk
> working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in
IMS core network.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg
> With Regards. Mojtaba
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi 
wrote:
>> Dears;
>> Good day !
>>
>> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an
Application server for the
>> kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate
an IMS user with an extension
>> number.
>>
>> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the
registration process  and
>> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS
users as the

Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Ivailo Dobrev]

Hello,

Comment inline.

Hope I'm helping,

Ivo

On 11/21/2017 12:32 PM, Amar Tinawi wrote:

Thank you Daniel :

Actually i followed your tutorial, but in case of IMS the 
modifications should be on (my assumption) S-CSCF, in this case all 
routing block should be routed towards AS ?


In order to route the call to Asterisk you should define it as AS/MMtel 
in your HSS. Define proper TP and iFC for the subscriber profiles.
i followed also Mr Carsten Bock videos on kamailio World conferences 
for the years 2015 - 2016 - 2017 and he mentioned clearly that any 
application that talk sip can operate as an AS, and he 
mentionedAsterisk and FreeSwitch as an example
Thanks Mojtaba, i followed this video but the video at the end shows 
that the users still in offline mode after registration, is that right ?

My questions are :
- should i configure Asterisk in a way to be AS for kamailio IMS ?
For sure you should configure Asterisk to handle originating and 
terminating call legs from/to S-CSCF. From Asterisk perspective the 
easiest way is S-CSCF to be a SIP trunk. (Note that this may not be 100% 
true and depends on the design)
- should the users be identified in Asterisk Database in order to make 
a correlation ? or asterisk can pull users profiles from HSS ?
As far I know there is no DIAMETER/Sh support in Asterisk. Related and 
to Q below too.
- Do we have to perform any configuration over HSS to identify sh 
interface with Asterisk ?
You have  2 options in general here, to have or not subscribers in 
Asterisk. Easiest way is to not. Assuming that all your subscribers are 
same from service point of view you can handle everything in routing w/o 
having any subscriber profile in Asterisk. Second option is a matter of 
design and there is no simple answer.


Keep in mind that SIP and IMS services differs. When using * or 
FreeSWITCH as SIP MMtel w/ SIP clients in IMS env, you can relatively 
easy implement known SIP services. Implementing MMTel IMS services w/ 
IMS clients is a different story.

if you can send me the Astriconvideo it would be great
Thanks,
Ammar


On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla 
mailto:mico...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello,

personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at
documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of
stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.

On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock
(one of
the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about
using
Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo
area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are
already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be
released soon.

Cheers,
Daniel


On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
> Hello,
> Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk
> working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg

> With Regards. Mojtaba
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi
mailto:amar.tin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Dears;
>> Good day !
>>
>> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application
server for the
>> kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with
an extension
>> number.
>>
>> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the registration
process  and
>> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they
are PBX users
>> to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring,
waiting, voice
>> mail ... etc)
>>
>> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS
user
>> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the
S-cscf to send
>> notify to asterisk .
>>
>>
>>
>> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and
idont know if
>> it is possible to be done.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ammar
>>
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>>
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>

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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Amar Tinawi]

Thank you Daniel :

Actually i followed your tutorial, but in case of IMS the modifications
should be on (my assumption) S-CSCF, in this case all routing block should
be routed towards AS ?

i followed also Mr Carsten Bock videos on kamailio World conferences for
the years 2015 - 2016 - 2017 and he mentioned clearly that any application
that talk sip can operate as an AS, and he mentioned Asterisk and
FreeSwitch as an example


Thanks Mojtaba, i followed this video but the video at the end shows that
the users still in offline mode after registration, is that right ?

My questions are :
- should i configure Asterisk in a way to be AS for kamailio IMS ?
- should the users be identified in Asterisk Database in order to make a
correlation ? or asterisk can pull users profiles from HSS ?
- Do we have to perform any configuration over HSS to identify sh interface
with Asterisk ?


if you can send me the Astricon video it would be great

Thanks,
Ammar


On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <
mico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at
> documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of
> stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.
>
> On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock (one of
> the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about using
> Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo
> area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are
> already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be
> released soon.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>
> On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk
> > working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg
> > With Regards. Mojtaba
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi 
> wrote:
> >> Dears;
> >> Good day !
> >>
> >> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for
> the
> >> kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an
> extension
> >> number.
> >>
> >> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the registration process  and
> >> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX
> users
> >> to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting,
> voice
> >> mail ... etc)
> >>
> >> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user
> >> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to
> send
> >> notify to asterisk .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont
> know if
> >> it is possible to be done.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Ammar
> >>
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> >> https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
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> >
> >
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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Daniel-Constantin Mierla]

Hello,

personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at
documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of
stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.

On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock (one of
the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about using
Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo
area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are
already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be
released soon.

Cheers,
Daniel


On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
> Hello,
> Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk
> working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg
> With Regards. Mojtaba
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi  wrote:
>> Dears;
>> Good day !
>>
>> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the
>> kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension
>> number.
>>
>> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the registration process  and
>> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users
>> to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice
>> mail ... etc)
>>
>> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user
>> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send
>> notify to asterisk .
>>
>>
>>
>> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if
>> it is possible to be done.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ammar
>>
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>>
>
>

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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Mojtaba]

Hello,
Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk
working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg
With Regards. Mojtaba

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi  wrote:
> Dears;
> Good day !
>
> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the
> kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension
> number.
>
> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the registration process  and
> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users
> to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice
> mail ... etc)
>
> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user
> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send
> notify to asterisk .
>
>
>
> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if
> it is possible to be done.
>
> Regards
> Ammar
>
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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Mojtaba]

Hello,
Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk
working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg
With Regards. Mojtaba

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> On 20.11.17 14:44, Amar Tinawi wrote:
>> Dears;
>> Good day !
>>
>> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for
>> the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an
>> extension number.
>>
>> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the registration process  and
>> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX
>> users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring,
>> waiting, voice mail ... etc)
>>
>> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user
>> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to
>> send notify to asterisk .
>>
>> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont
>> know if it is possible to be done.
>>
> not sure if IMS has any relevant requirement here, but using Kamailio
> with Asterisk is very common. There are several options to integrate the
> two, for some of them I wrote tutorials available at:
>
>   - https://kb.asipto.com/asterisk:index
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
> --
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Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX

[Daniel-Constantin Mierla]

Hello,


On 20.11.17 14:44, Amar Tinawi wrote:
> Dears; 
> Good day !
>
> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for
> the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an
> extension number. 
>
> My though is kamailio ims  will handle the registration process  and
> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX
> users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring,
> waiting, voice mail ... etc)
>
> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user
> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to
> send notify to asterisk .
>
> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont
> know if it is possible to be done.
>
not sure if IMS has any relevant requirement here, but using Kamailio
with Asterisk is very common. There are several options to integrate the
two, for some of them I wrote tutorials available at:

  - https://kb.asipto.com/asterisk:index

Cheers,
Daniel

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