Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-06 Thread Kevin Smith
(And this time I’ll remember to thank Georg for taking this on. Thanks Georg) > On 6 Nov 2019, at 13:43, Georg Lukas wrote: > > * Kevin Smith [2019-11-06 12:24]: >> I think the addition of ’66 is well-intentioned, but jabber:x:oob >> is underspecified (it defines a syntax, but semantics are

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-06 Thread Kevin Smith
On 6 Nov 2019, at 13:57, Daniel Gultsch wrote: > > Am Mi., 6. Nov. 2019 um 13:45 Uhr schrieb Georg Lukas : >> >> * Kevin Smith [2019-11-06 12:24]: >>> I think the addition of ’66 is well-intentioned, but jabber:x:oob >>> is underspecified (it defines a syntax, but semantics are >>>

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-06 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Am Mi., 6. Nov. 2019 um 13:45 Uhr schrieb Georg Lukas : > > * Kevin Smith [2019-11-06 12:24]: > > I think the addition of ’66 is well-intentioned, but jabber:x:oob > > is underspecified (it defines a syntax, but semantics are > > missing). > > I agree, but nobody has written down the semantics

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-06 Thread Georg Lukas
* Kevin Smith [2019-11-06 12:24]: > I think the addition of ’66 is well-intentioned, but jabber:x:oob > is underspecified (it defines a syntax, but semantics are > missing). I agree, but nobody has written down the semantics yet, so there is no place to link to. On the other hand, this

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-06 Thread Kevin Smith
> On 23 Oct 2019, at 16:07, Jonas Schäfer (XSF Editor) > wrote: > > This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on > XEP-0423. > > Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2020 > Abstract: > This document defines XMPP application categories for different use > cases (Core, Web, IM, and

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-06 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi goffi, * goffi [2019-11-05 22:58]: > I'm really busy these days and couldn't do an extensive review, but here is > my feedback: Thank you for your feedback! > It's really chat focused, and I would like to see other categories, notably > a "social" one. I would put there XEP-0277 as the bare

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-05 Thread Evgeny
Oops, sorry, wrong thread. I was mentioning XEP-0402 (Bookmarks 2) of course. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 8:53 AM, Evgeny wrote: ... ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe:

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-05 Thread Evgeny
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:41 PM, Paul Schaub wrote: 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol stack or to clarify an existing protocol? 2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction and requirements? The purpose of the XEP is unclear. The

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-11-05 Thread goffi
Hello, I'm really busy these days and couldn't do an extensive review, but here is my feedback: 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol stack or to clarify an existing protocol? Definitely, there is a high demand for this kind of list from users, and on the dev

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-10-23 Thread Paul Schaub
Hi! I'm not quite happy with the fact that an advanced mobile client must support push. While I understand the rationale behind this (*cough* iOS *cough*), I dislike the fact that in order to be considered an advanced client, the client MUST depend on a centralized push service (for example

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-10-23 Thread Guus der Kinderen
Thanks for the effort to push this well before the end of the year. :) On my first reading, I noticed two things: XEP-0385 "Stateless Inline Media Sharing (SIMS)" is mentioned both in section 1.1 "Changes since 2019", but also in section 3 "Future Development". Is that an error, or intended? I'd

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

2019-10-23 Thread XSF Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0423. Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2020 Abstract: This document defines XMPP application categories for different use cases (Core, Web, IM, and Mobile), and specifies the required XEPs that client and server software needs to