[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2019-03-26 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.14.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-12-13 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.14.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-07-06 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.13.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-06-05 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.12.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-05-22 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.11.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-05-11 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Freitag, 11. Mai 2018 15:27:53 CEST Jonas Wielicki wrote: > Version 0.10.0 This is the 0.9.7 people have been talking about already. We chose 0.10.0 because the update included non-editorial changes and that deserves a version bump in the second number. Sorry for the confusion. kind

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-05-11 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.10.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-03-18 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.9.6 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-08 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.9.5 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-03 Thread Steve Kille
> >> I can totally agree that non-participant clients MAY be able to > >> access message archives, and other read-only cases. But it seems > >> wrong that a non- participant could share presence. > > [Steve Kille] > > > > Might be sensible to clarify requirements for non-participant access to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-03 Thread Dave Cridland
On 3 January 2018 at 16:40, Steve Kille wrote: >> >> * §3.9.5 / §3.9.6 still seem massively awkward to me. When we >> >> implemented this, we implemented it such that it was a single node >> >> which administrators viewed differently to ordinary participants, and >> >> it

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-03 Thread Steve Kille
Dave, > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Dave > Cridland > Sent: 03 January 2018 16:15 > To: XMPP Standards <standards@xmpp.org> > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > eXchange (M

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-03 Thread Dave Cridland
On 3 January 2018 at 15:25, Steve Kille wrote: >> * In §3.2, item 15 is a prohibition on sharing MIX domains with end-user >> jids. >> While I suspect this could cause problems, I cannot immediately think what >> they might be - perhaps this is really a SHOULD NOT? >

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-03 Thread Steve Kille
ndards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Dave > Cridland > Sent: 02 January 2018 17:40 > To: XMPP Standards <standards@xmpp.org> > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > eXchange (MIX)) > > Some comments: > > * At the end of the Introd

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-02 Thread Dave Cridland
Some comments: * At the end of the Introduction, the spec says it is RECOMMENDED that MIX and MUC be served on distinct domains. I thought we'd arranged things such that MIX and MUC were now non-conflicting in protocol terms, and we could safely use the same domain (and thus the same address

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2018-01-02 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.9.4 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Steve Kille
Georg, > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg > Lukas > Sent: 07 December 2017 14:52 > To: standards@xmpp.org > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > eXchange (MIX)) > > Hi

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Dave Cridland
On 7 Dec 2017 15:52, "Georg Lukas" wrote: Hi Steve, thanks for your feedback. Please allow me some more remarks. * Steve Kille [2017-12-07 14:03]: > > | 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not > > | interoperable with a MIX

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi Steve, thanks for your feedback. Please allow me some more remarks. * Steve Kille [2017-12-07 14:03]: > > | 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not > > | interoperable with a MIX service. This means that where a user > > | chooses to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Steve Kille
Georg, Thanks for your detailed review comments.Let me go over them. > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg > Lukas > Sent: 05 December 2017 20:04 > To: standards@xmpp.org > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED:

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-05 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi, so I finally found the time to recover my notes for the first half of MIX, and to get through the second half. Notes below :) §3.2 Core Concepts | 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not | interoperable with a MIX service. This means that where a user |

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-08-24 Thread XSF Editor
Version 0.9.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-05-26 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.9.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-04-03 Thread Steve Kille
> -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Steve > Kille > Sent: 01 April 2017 21:20 > To: 'XMPP Standards' > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > eXcha

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-04-02 Thread Steve Kille
Jonas, > > This has the downside that it is not possible for future amendments to > trivially extend the item (adding multiple things to a single is at > least > unconventional). The existing way with the element > seems most reasonable to me. [Steve Kille] Thanks - this is helpful

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-04-02 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Sonntag, 2. April 2017 10:52:38 CEST Steve Kille wrote: > > Please do not do that. > > (with the xmlns inherited from the element) and > xmlns='urn:xmpp:mix: > > 0'/> are entirely different elements. The former is part of the PubSub > > protocol as specified in XEP-0060, the latter is not.

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-04-02 Thread Steve Kille
> > Hmm, I’m not sure we’re on the same page here. I was talking about the > participants node, [Steve Kille] Sorry - you just triggered a random related thought. Hope not too confusing which, in my understanding, has nothing to do with the > presence of the participants. So to show

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-04-02 Thread Jonas Wielicki
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > > eXchange (MIX)) > > > > Hi Steve at al., > > > > I have a few questions about handling of nicknames in MIX. > > > > 1. regarding §6.1.5 Setting a Nick: > > > > There is

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-04-01 Thread Steve Kille
Jonas, > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Jonas > Wielicki > Sent: 01 April 2017 20:37 > To: XMPP Standards > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > eXchange (MIX)) > > Hi Stev

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-04-01 Thread Jonas Wielicki
Hi Steve at al., I have a few questions about handling of nicknames in MIX. 1. regarding §6.1.5 Setting a Nick: There is an example on how to set the nickname. I *assume* that other participants are informed about the nickname change as it will be published in the participants PubSub node,

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-29 Thread Steve Kille
...@movim.eu Sent: 22 March 2017 17:48 To: standards@xmpp.org Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) Hello, Some small feedbacks regarding the 0.9 version. * Some Pubsub namespaces in the document are set to 'http://jabber.org.protocol.pubsub

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-23 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Mittwoch, 22. März 2017 18:48:06 CET edhe...@movim.eu wrote: > * var='Participation Addition by Invitation from Participant' > > * I think that it would be better to set this field var to > 'participation_addition_by_invitation_from_participant' and use the > label tag for all the

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-22 Thread Steve Kille
* var='Participation Addition by Invitation from Participant' * I think that it would be better to set this field var to 'participation_addition_by_invitation_from_participant' and use the label tag for all the jabber:x:data fields for a proper labeling system. * This will

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-22 Thread Steve Kille
update (assuming there are no other comments). No need for a PR. Thanks for the review Steve From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of edhe...@movim.eu Sent: 22 March 2017 17:48 To: standards@xmpp.org Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-22 Thread Steve Kille
Hmm - my XML says: 2017-03-3 Not sure what happened here, but easy to fix S > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Sam > Whited > Sent: 22 March 2017 17:54 > To: XMPP Standards > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED:

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-22 Thread Sam Whited
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:48 PM, wrote: > Last Updated: 2017-03-27, looks like someone in the XSF got a DeLorean Sorry, I didn't notice this until after I'd already published. Will try to be better about verifying this sort of thing in the future. —Sam

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-22 Thread edhelas
Hello, Some small feedbacks regarding the 0.9 version. * Some Pubsub namespaces in the document are set to 'http://jabber.org.protocol.pubsub', it should be 'http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub' * var='Participation Addition by Invitation from Participant' * I think

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-22 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.9 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-03-03 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.8.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-02-23 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.8.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-02-13 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.8 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-01-30 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.7.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-01-27 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.7 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-01-11 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6.5 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-01-10 Thread Sam Whited
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:43 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > Version 0.6.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been > released. Sorry, that's 0.6.4 that was just published, I'm not sure what failed here. I have verified that the version on the server is

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-01-10 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-12-26 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-12-21 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-12-07 Thread Sam Whited
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > Version 0.6.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been > released. Sorry, this was accidental, our publication process is somewhat error prone. No changes have been made to 0369. —Sam

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-12-07 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-12-05 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-12-02 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.6 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-10-11 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.4 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-07 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.3.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-07 Thread Kevin Smith
On 7 Sep 2016, at 05:44, Daurnimator wrote: > >>> Section 5.1.6: Unlike in Multi-User Chat (XEP-0045) [24] where coming online is a special action, coming online in MIX is implicit when presence status is set >>> >>> In MUC it didn't have to be; infact,

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-07 Thread Dave Cridland
>> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of > >> Daurnimator > >> Sent: 06 September 2016 09:00 > >> To: XMPP Standards > >> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > >> eXchange (MIX)) > >>

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-07 Thread Steve Kille
> >> Section 5.1.1: > >> > The channel must process the join atomically. > >> ... > >> > If a user cannot be subscribed to one or more of the requested > >> > nodes > >> (e.g., because the node does not exist), but can be subscribed to > >> some the response simply lists the nodes successfully

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-06 Thread Daurnimator
016 09:00 >> To: XMPP Standards >> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information >> eXchange (MIX)) >> >> >> Section 5.1.1: >> > The channel must process the join atomically. >> ... >> > If a user cannot be subscribed t

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-06 Thread Steve Kille
Daurnimator, Thanks for your comments. > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of > Daurnimator > Sent: 06 September 2016 09:00 > To: XMPP Standards > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Informati

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-06 Thread Kevin Smith
> On 6 Sep 2016, at 09:00, Daurnimator wrote: > > On 6 September 2016 at 00:59, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: >> Version 0.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been >> released. >> >> Abstract: This document defines Mediated

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-06 Thread Daurnimator
On 6 September 2016 at 00:59, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: > Version 0.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been > released. > > Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP > protocol extension for the exchange of information

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-05 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/5/16 8:59 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0369.html Because I haven't contributed substantially to this specification (aside from some work at and directly after last year's summit), I'd like to request that the authors remove my name from the

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-05 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-02 Thread Georg Lukas
Hey Steve, thanks for keeping up with all our requests :) * Steve Kille [2016-09-02 18:06]: > > A consequence of this is that messages HAVE to go to the bare JID. > > > > I suggest that this very rationale and the related fundamental design > > decision > > of MIX

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-02 Thread Steve Kille
Florian, > > > > A key design decision of MIX was to separate Presence and Messages. > Users can register presence for multiple clients or none at all. Another > decision was to make membership long term, so that messages get sent > irrespective of presence. A consequence of this is that

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-02 Thread Steve Kille
Georg, I took an editorial action in my response to this message > > 3. Message tracking > > === > > > > Initially, MIX messages were going to be handled like pubsub events. > > The text in §5.1.11 still claims so (I suppose this is an overlooked > > remnant). [Steve Kille]

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-02 Thread Dave Cridland
On 2 September 2016 at 10:59, Georg Lukas wrote: > Hello again, > > * Dave Cridland [2016-08-23 23:09]: > [MUC JID reference in a MIX] >> I think it's needed to allow a MIX client to communicate a MUC jid to >> another client. > > Yes, unless the MUC JID is the

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-02 Thread Georg Lukas
Hello again, * Dave Cridland [2016-08-23 23:09]: [MUC JID reference in a MIX] > I think it's needed to allow a MIX client to communicate a MUC jid to > another client. Yes, unless the MUC JID is the primary (or the only) identifier of the chat room, we need two-way references

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-09-01 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.2.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-25 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.2.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-25 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.2.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-25 Thread Kevin Smith
On 23 Aug 2016, at 22:09, Dave Cridland wrote: > > > On 23 Aug 2016 21:56, "Georg Lukas" wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > thanks for the clarifications. I'm still not quite sure about the > > implications of some of the things though, maybe you can clarify...

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-23 Thread Dave Cridland
On 23 Aug 2016 21:56, "Georg Lukas" wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > thanks for the clarifications. I'm still not quite sure about the > implications of some of the things though, maybe you can clarify... > > * Steve Kille [2016-08-17 17:33]: > > MIX permits three

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-23 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi Steve, thanks for the clarifications. I'm still not quite sure about the implications of some of the things though, maybe you can clarify... * Steve Kille [2016-08-17 17:33]: > MIX permits three modes with MUC: > > 1. No MUC. There is no requirement to support

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-23 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 17.08.2016 17:30, Steve Kille wrote: >> 2. Use of client's bare JID >> === >> >> Sending of presence and message packets to the user's bare JID is going to >> break things. First, message routing is server-defined, and >> will cause different behavior on different

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-17 Thread Steve Kille
Georg, Thanks for your comments. Let me go over these. > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg Lukas > Sent: 17 August 2016 12:06 > To: standards@xmpp.org > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Infor

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-17 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi, * XMPP Extensions Editor [2016-08-16 12:33]: > Version 0.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been > released. Thanks to everybody involved! Let's get this one moving fast, now! :) I like the overall design, but I think some aspects of it can be

[Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2016-08-16 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released. Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model