Version 0.14.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.14.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.13.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.12.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.11.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
On Freitag, 11. Mai 2018 15:27:53 CEST Jonas Wielicki wrote:
> Version 0.10.0
This is the 0.9.7 people have been talking about already. We chose 0.10.0
because the update included non-editorial changes and that deserves a version
bump in the second number.
Sorry for the confusion.
kind
Version 0.10.0 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.9.6 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.9.5 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
> >> I can totally agree that non-participant clients MAY be able to
> >> access message archives, and other read-only cases. But it seems
> >> wrong that a non- participant could share presence.
> > [Steve Kille]
> >
> > Might be sensible to clarify requirements for non-participant access to
On 3 January 2018 at 16:40, Steve Kille wrote:
>> >> * §3.9.5 / §3.9.6 still seem massively awkward to me. When we
>> >> implemented this, we implemented it such that it was a single node
>> >> which administrators viewed differently to ordinary participants, and
>> >> it
Dave,
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Dave
> Cridland
> Sent: 03 January 2018 16:15
> To: XMPP Standards <standards@xmpp.org>
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
> eXchange (M
On 3 January 2018 at 15:25, Steve Kille wrote:
>> * In §3.2, item 15 is a prohibition on sharing MIX domains with end-user
>> jids.
>> While I suspect this could cause problems, I cannot immediately think what
>> they might be - perhaps this is really a SHOULD NOT?
>
ndards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Dave
> Cridland
> Sent: 02 January 2018 17:40
> To: XMPP Standards <standards@xmpp.org>
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
> eXchange (MIX))
>
> Some comments:
>
> * At the end of the Introd
Some comments:
* At the end of the Introduction, the spec says it is RECOMMENDED that
MIX and MUC be served on distinct domains. I thought we'd arranged
things such that MIX and MUC were now non-conflicting in protocol
terms, and we could safely use the same domain (and thus the same
address
Version 0.9.4 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Georg,
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg
> Lukas
> Sent: 07 December 2017 14:52
> To: standards@xmpp.org
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
> eXchange (MIX))
>
> Hi
On 7 Dec 2017 15:52, "Georg Lukas" wrote:
Hi Steve,
thanks for your feedback. Please allow me some more remarks.
* Steve Kille [2017-12-07 14:03]:
> > | 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not
> > | interoperable with a MIX
Hi Steve,
thanks for your feedback. Please allow me some more remarks.
* Steve Kille [2017-12-07 14:03]:
> > | 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not
> > | interoperable with a MIX service. This means that where a user
> > | chooses to
Georg,
Thanks for your detailed review comments.Let me go over them.
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg
> Lukas
> Sent: 05 December 2017 20:04
> To: standards@xmpp.org
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED:
Hi,
so I finally found the time to recover my notes for the first half of
MIX, and to get through the second half. Notes below :)
§3.2 Core Concepts
| 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not
| interoperable with a MIX service. This means that where a user
|
Version 0.9.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple
users through a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.9.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> Kille
> Sent: 01 April 2017 21:20
> To: 'XMPP Standards'
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
> eXcha
Jonas,
>
> This has the downside that it is not possible for future amendments to
> trivially extend the item (adding multiple things to a single is at
> least
> unconventional). The existing way with the element
> seems most reasonable to me.
[Steve Kille]
Thanks - this is helpful
On Sonntag, 2. April 2017 10:52:38 CEST Steve Kille wrote:
> > Please do not do that.
> > (with the xmlns inherited from the element) and > xmlns='urn:xmpp:mix:
> > 0'/> are entirely different elements. The former is part of the PubSub
> > protocol as specified in XEP-0060, the latter is not.
>
> Hmm, I’m not sure we’re on the same page here. I was talking about the
> participants node,
[Steve Kille]
Sorry - you just triggered a random related thought. Hope not too confusing
which, in my understanding, has nothing to do with the
> presence of the participants. So to show
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
> > eXchange (MIX))
> >
> > Hi Steve at al.,
> >
> > I have a few questions about handling of nicknames in MIX.
> >
> > 1. regarding §6.1.5 Setting a Nick:
> >
> > There is
Jonas,
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Jonas
> Wielicki
> Sent: 01 April 2017 20:37
> To: XMPP Standards
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
> eXchange (MIX))
>
> Hi Stev
Hi Steve at al.,
I have a few questions about handling of nicknames in MIX.
1. regarding §6.1.5 Setting a Nick:
There is an example on how to set the nickname. I *assume* that other
participants are informed about the nickname change as it will be published in
the participants PubSub node,
...@movim.eu
Sent: 22 March 2017 17:48
To: standards@xmpp.org
Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))
Hello,
Some small feedbacks regarding the 0.9 version.
* Some Pubsub namespaces in the document are set to
'http://jabber.org.protocol.pubsub
On Mittwoch, 22. März 2017 18:48:06 CET edhe...@movim.eu wrote:
> * var='Participation Addition by Invitation from Participant'
>
> * I think that it would be better to set this field var to
> 'participation_addition_by_invitation_from_participant' and use the
> label tag for all the
* var='Participation Addition by Invitation from Participant'
* I think that it would be better to set this field var to
'participation_addition_by_invitation_from_participant' and use the label tag
for all the jabber:x:data fields for a proper labeling system.
* This will
update (assuming
there are no other comments). No need for a PR.
Thanks for the review
Steve
From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of
edhe...@movim.eu
Sent: 22 March 2017 17:48
To: standards@xmpp.org
Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated
Hmm - my XML says:
2017-03-3
Not sure what happened here, but easy to fix
S
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Sam
> Whited
> Sent: 22 March 2017 17:54
> To: XMPP Standards
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED:
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:48 PM, wrote:
> Last Updated: 2017-03-27, looks like someone in the XSF got a DeLorean
Sorry, I didn't notice this until after I'd already published. Will
try to be better about verifying this sort of thing in the future.
—Sam
Hello,
Some small feedbacks regarding the 0.9 version.
* Some Pubsub namespaces in the document are set to
'http://jabber.org.protocol.pubsub', it should be
'http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'
* var='Participation Addition by Invitation from Participant'
* I think
Version 0.9 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.8.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
Version 0.8.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
Version 0.8 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.7.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
Version 0.7 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.6.5 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:43 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
> Version 0.6.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
> released.
Sorry, that's 0.6.4 that was just published, I'm not sure what failed
here. I have verified that the version on the server is
Version 0.6.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
Version 0.6.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
Version 0.6.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
> Version 0.6.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
> released.
Sorry, this was accidental, our publication process is somewhat error
prone. No changes have been made to 0369.
—Sam
Version 0.6.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
Version 0.6.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
Version 0.6 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.4 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Version 0.3.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to
On 7 Sep 2016, at 05:44, Daurnimator wrote:
>
>>> Section 5.1.6:
Unlike in Multi-User Chat (XEP-0045) [24] where coming online is a
special action, coming online in MIX is implicit when presence status
is set
>>>
>>> In MUC it didn't have to be; infact,
>> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Daurnimator
> >> Sent: 06 September 2016 09:00
> >> To: XMPP Standards
> >> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
> >> eXchange (MIX))
> >>
> >> Section 5.1.1:
> >> > The channel must process the join atomically.
> >> ...
> >> > If a user cannot be subscribed to one or more of the requested
> >> > nodes
> >> (e.g., because the node does not exist), but can be subscribed to
> >> some the response simply lists the nodes successfully
016 09:00
>> To: XMPP Standards
>> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information
>> eXchange (MIX))
>>
>>
>> Section 5.1.1:
>> > The channel must process the join atomically.
>> ...
>> > If a user cannot be subscribed t
Daurnimator,
Thanks for your comments.
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of
> Daurnimator
> Sent: 06 September 2016 09:00
> To: XMPP Standards
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Informati
> On 6 Sep 2016, at 09:00, Daurnimator wrote:
>
> On 6 September 2016 at 00:59, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
>> Version 0.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
>> released.
>>
>> Abstract: This document defines Mediated
On 6 September 2016 at 00:59, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
> Version 0.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
> released.
>
> Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
> protocol extension for the exchange of information
On 9/5/16 8:59 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0369.html
Because I haven't contributed substantially to this specification (aside
from some work at and directly after last year's summit), I'd like to
request that the authors remove my name from the
Version 0.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to provide
Hey Steve,
thanks for keeping up with all our requests :)
* Steve Kille [2016-09-02 18:06]:
> > A consequence of this is that messages HAVE to go to the bare JID.
> >
> > I suggest that this very rationale and the related fundamental design
> > decision
> > of MIX
Florian,
> >
> > A key design decision of MIX was to separate Presence and Messages.
> Users can register presence for multiple clients or none at all. Another
> decision was to make membership long term, so that messages get sent
> irrespective of presence. A consequence of this is that
Georg,
I took an editorial action in my response to this message
> > 3. Message tracking
> > ===
> >
> > Initially, MIX messages were going to be handled like pubsub events.
> > The text in §5.1.11 still claims so (I suppose this is an overlooked
> > remnant).
[Steve Kille]
On 2 September 2016 at 10:59, Georg Lukas wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> * Dave Cridland [2016-08-23 23:09]:
> [MUC JID reference in a MIX]
>> I think it's needed to allow a MIX client to communicate a MUC jid to
>> another client.
>
> Yes, unless the MUC JID is the
Hello again,
* Dave Cridland [2016-08-23 23:09]:
[MUC JID reference in a MIX]
> I think it's needed to allow a MIX client to communicate a MUC jid to
> another client.
Yes, unless the MUC JID is the primary (or the only) identifier of the
chat room, we need two-way references
Version 0.2.3 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model
Version 0.2.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model
Version 0.2.1 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model
On 23 Aug 2016, at 22:09, Dave Cridland wrote:
>
>
> On 23 Aug 2016 21:56, "Georg Lukas" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > thanks for the clarifications. I'm still not quite sure about the
> > implications of some of the things though, maybe you can clarify...
On 23 Aug 2016 21:56, "Georg Lukas" wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> thanks for the clarifications. I'm still not quite sure about the
> implications of some of the things though, maybe you can clarify...
>
> * Steve Kille [2016-08-17 17:33]:
> > MIX permits three
Hi Steve,
thanks for the clarifications. I'm still not quite sure about the
implications of some of the things though, maybe you can clarify...
* Steve Kille [2016-08-17 17:33]:
> MIX permits three modes with MUC:
>
> 1. No MUC. There is no requirement to support
On 17.08.2016 17:30, Steve Kille wrote:
>> 2. Use of client's bare JID
>> ===
>>
>> Sending of presence and message packets to the user's bare JID is going to
>> break things. First, message routing is server-defined, and
>> will cause different behavior on different
Georg,
Thanks for your comments. Let me go over these.
> -Original Message-
> From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg Lukas
> Sent: 17 August 2016 12:06
> To: standards@xmpp.org
> Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Infor
Hi,
* XMPP Extensions Editor [2016-08-16 12:33]:
> Version 0.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been
> released.
Thanks to everybody involved! Let's get this one moving fast, now! :)
I like the overall design, but I think some aspects of it can be
Version 0.2 of XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX)) has been released.
Abstract: This document defines Mediated Information eXchange (MIX), an XMPP
protocol extension for the exchange of information among multiple users through
a mediating service. The protocol can be used to model
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