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Subject: Re: Freetext attribute for all
tags...
12/12/2001 11:29
Please respond
(I do apologise for this post. It should stop. But for some reason I
just can't handle misrepresentation of trying to get markup to work in
the largest amount of browsers possible (both those inside and outside
the spec). So, if you don't want to hear a rant in reply to a rant, read
another
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Subject: Re: Freetext attribute for all
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- Original Message -
From: Arron Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:27 PM
Subject: Freetext attribute for all tags...
Idea...
There was just that too and fro in additional properties needed on
html:image... bug
Hello Ted,
It is interesting situation now... 8)) I think it was in some letters
before - a number of words about 'custom' or 'literal' attribute. But
only after commit we have a some kind of discussion in list... 8)
Yes, of course, may be my activity is wrong - I think that 'right'
solution
A product change, like adding the freetext attribute, is subject to lazy
consensus. You have the right to make the change, and any other
committer has the right to veto it.
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/decisions.html
People often announce a short-term plans, not so much because we have
to,
Hello Ted,
Ok. How can I revert changes? Is there are any standart way to do so
with CVS? If no then I'l retrieve previous file versions, resave it
and commit to CVS. Is it right?
Tuesday, December 11, 2001, 2:46:16 PM, you wrote:
TH A product change, like adding the freetext attribute, is
I'm sure there would be a way to rollback the CVS; Craig or Martin may
know more about that.
But, since there haven't been any other changes here, the simplest
thing, as you said, might be to retrieve the prior versions from a
nightly build, and paste those over the current version, and commit
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:27 PM
Subject: Freetext attribute for all tags...
Idea...
There was just that too and fro in additional
properties needed on
html:image... bug in that there was the argument
over what to support
and what not to support... if there was a standard
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Jon Wall wrote:
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:24:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Freetext attribute for all tags...
Amen
Jon Wall wrote:
Do you want Struts to be a framework for building just
mass-market web sites (portals, ecommerce, etc)??
It's my personal feeling that we are providing the tag extensions as a
convenience, and that they are ancilliary to the actual framework. I
think this will become more
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems like the top priority of web development and
this list in particular has become complying with
standards. While I agree that is important and we've
shot ourselves in the foot before, I think we're
forgetting that the absolute number one priority in
any UI
It's all reality. Standards and non-compliant realities alike.
Take the new DOM scripting model... NS copied IE in the
getElementById()... why... because it's truly sweet. But it's not in the
spec. It's an example where the spec is not as good as the
implementation. W3C are recommendations,
I hate to do me toos, but I've been trying to put my feelings into
words and this is as close to my thoughts as anything I've written
down. Just wanted Colin to know he isn't hanging in the wind. ;)
-Paul
Colin Sharples wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems like the top priority of web
Hello Arron,
I add such attribute to the tags -
Button
Cancel
Checkbox
File
Hidden
Image
Img
Link
Multibox
Password
Radio
Reset
Select
Submit
Textarea
Text
Now all non supported by struts attributes can be added to the target
tag via 'freetext' attribute. This attribute contents will directly
Is freetext all right with everyone, or should we use something like
literal
custom
or
verbatim
It's just that I feel we have not paid close enough attention to the
naming of things in the past, and we might want measure twice before
we document this.
-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com,
Hello Ted,
[+1] 'custom'
Monday, December 10, 2001, 2:02:01 PM, you wrote:
TH Is freetext all right with everyone, or should we use something like
TH literal
TH custom
TH or
TH verbatim
TH It's just that I feel we have not paid close enough attention to the
TH naming of things in the
-Original Message-
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: maandag 10 december 2001 12:02
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re: Freetext attribute for all tags...
Is freetext all right with everyone, or should we use something like
literal
custom
or
verbatim
It's
[+1] literal
- Original Message -
From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: Freetext attribute for all tags...
Is freetext all right with everyone, or should we use something like
literal
: Freetext attribute for all tags...
Is freetext all right with everyone, or should we use something like
literal
custom
or
verbatim
It's just that I feel we have not paid close enough attention to the
naming of things in the past, and we might want measure twice before
we document
Hello Ted,
So, votes for naming of free style attribute for html tags -
literal - 2
freetext - 1.5 (already extst)
custom - 1
Any other votes or variants? If nothing then it will became 'literal'.
Monday, December 10, 2001, 2:02:01 PM, you wrote:
TH Is freetext all right with everyone, or
I like literal out of the three listed. A static or
staticText field would be the only other ideas I have
for naming.
David
--- Oleg V Alexeev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Ted,
So, votes for naming of free style attribute for
html tags -
literal - 2
freetext - 1.5 (already extst)
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Arron Bates wrote:
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:27:42 +1100
From: Arron Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Freetext attribute for all tags...
Idea...
There was just that too
Can we let it ride for a week, to see what else comes up?
I appreciate input from the developers, but we might want to also see
what the other committers have to say.
I also just thought of another one: output - since that is what we
are really doing, outputting something into the body of
I really think questions of compliance and properness are out of
context in all truth. You get Html outside that of the struts tags...
let's say... 96% of the markup are you're in the most free text you've
ever seen in your life. You aint seen the fun of free markup until
you've left off a
. What
should we do now?
2) name collisions
3) syntax validation
4) duplication
5) XHTML (need to ignore when value is set)
- Original Message -
From: Arron Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:27 PM
Subject: Freetext attribute
Idea...
There was just that too and fro in additional properties needed on
html:image... bug in that there was the argument over what to support
and what not to support... if there was a standard property (ie:
freetext, freeform, uglytext or something) where developers could
add a string to
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