RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Joe Barefoot
Ah hell, let's just use Irish notation and call it: MeBigBagOStuffBean ;) > -Original Message- > From: Taylor, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:10 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: struts 2.0 na

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Taylor, Jason
x27;Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions? > I'll agree to disagree if you will ;-) I won't give up that easily! :D Seriously, my complaint stems from the fact that it's just as valid to do the following to populate a (so-called) "fo

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread John Owen
It's better than that damn MonkeyBean, it will drive you bananas! - Original Message - From: "Eddie Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
Good Lord! They let *anyone* on this list talk, don't they?! ;-) LOL ... I'm so glad this list is composed of the individuals it is :-) James Mitchell wrote: >+1 for SasquatchBean. > >Although debugging those can get.(dare I say)..hairy ?!? > > > >James Mitchell >Software Engineer\Stru

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Taylor, Jason
form attribute. My 2 c. -JT -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:30 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? Calling it "RequestParameterBean" causes a disconnect too. Call it what it is

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
... and I don't really see where a "web-context" has anything to do with a bean being called (and named) a bean ... Obviously, if we wrote an application in C++, we probably wouldn't name anything a bean (unless we had, say coffee beans we were modeling - may likely have a bean in the class na

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
Bartley, Chris P [PCS] wrote: >>I'll agree to disagree if you will ;-) >> >I won't give up that easily! :D Seriously, my complaint stems from the >fact that it's just as valid to do the following to populate a (so-called) >"form" bean (that has setBar() and setBaz() methods): > > Click me > >

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Joe Barefoot
ecause you built something worth critiquing. :) peace, Joe > -Original Message- > From: Bartley, Chris P [PCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:56 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread David Graham
ruts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? >Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:16:53 -0500 > >>Well, i think that people casually refer to it as a "form bean" beca

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
I would suggest it be done, yes. You can make certain assumptions about a bean - having *Bean as a name immediately tells you certain things about a class. Though, for the dynamic classes, I suppose it's less appropriate ... I'm cool with status quo :-) But, if change is about us - that's t

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
, with that, i'm done, and happy to agree to disagree. :) chris > -Original Message- > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:30 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? > > > Ca

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread David Graham
appropriate as well. In this case, adding Bean to the end is appropriate because it's not meant to be used outside of a web framework. Dave >From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Struts Users M

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
Calling it "RequestParameterBean" causes a disconnect too. Call it what it is - we are OO folks after-all - a FormBean. It *is* intended to be used with - though you may find it handy for other things. Sorry :-) Let's not start a religious debate over expected convention. I name things del

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread John Nicholas
> Well, i think that people casually refer to it as a "form bean" because it's > currently named "ActionForm". If the class had been named > "RequestParametersBean" from the start, i doubt very much that today people > would be calling it a "form bean". I think it's the word "form" in there > th

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
m bean populated?"). chris > -Original Message- > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:48 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? > > > FormBean > > Then, the name

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread James Mitchell
ey, Chris P [PCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:16 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions? > > > I'd add that even "Form" could be confusing to some. Based on > the number o

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
FormBean Then, the name of the class goes well with what people call it. You don't have a disconnect. If we're changing names, this is the convention I would use for this. ( .. and then you could do: - DynaActionFormBean - DynaValidatorFormBean - ... I know i

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
I'd add that even "Form" could be confusing to some. Based on the number of posts to this list, there appears to be a large percentage of new users who don't understand that both GET and POST requests can populate a form bean (and that you don't need a ... to do it). I'm not sure what a good alt