struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Vincent Stoessel
In the next version of struts, will there be some thought given to the naming conventions of naming the main classes in struts? Calling everything ActionThis and Actionthat is really confusing the new user. ActionForm could just be Form for example etc. Thank You for your time. -- Vincent

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:46 AM To: Struts Users Subject: struts 2.0 naming conventions? In the next version of struts, will there be some thought given to the naming conventions of naming the main classes in struts? Calling everything ActionThis

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
FormBean Then, the name of the class goes well with what people call it. You don't have a disconnect. If we're changing names, this is the convention I would use for this. ( .. and then you could do: - DynaActionFormBean - DynaValidatorFormBean - ... I know

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2002-09-27 Thread James Mitchell
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:16 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions? I'd add that even Form could be confusing to some. Based on the number of posts to this list, there appears to be a large percentage of new users

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:48 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? FormBean Then, the name of the class goes well with what people call it. You don't have a disconnect. If we're changing names, this is the convention I would use

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread John Nicholas
Well, i think that people casually refer to it as a form bean because it's currently named ActionForm. If the class had been named RequestParametersBean from the start, i doubt very much that today people would be calling it a form bean. I think it's the word form in there that's causing

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
Calling it RequestParameterBean causes a disconnect too. Call it what it is - we are OO folks after-all - a FormBean. It *is* intended to be used with html:form - though you may find it handy for other things. Sorry :-) Let's not start a religious debate over expected convention. I name

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread David Graham
. In this case, adding Bean to the end is appropriate because it's not meant to be used outside of a web framework. Dave From: Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions

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2002-09-27 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
, and happy to agree to disagree. :) chris -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:30 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? Calling it RequestParameterBean causes a disconnect too. Call

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
I would suggest it be done, yes. You can make certain assumptions about a bean - having *Bean as a name immediately tells you certain things about a class. Though, for the dynamic classes, I suppose it's less appropriate ... I'm cool with status quo :-) But, if change is about us - that's

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2002-09-27 Thread David Graham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:16:53 -0500 Well, i think that people casually refer to it as a form bean because it's currently named ActionForm. If the class had been named RequestParametersBean from the start, i doubt very much that today

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Joe Barefoot
because you built something worth critiquing. :) peace, Joe -Original Message- From: Bartley, Chris P [PCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:56 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions? I'll agree to disagree

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2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
Bartley, Chris P [PCS] wrote: I'll agree to disagree if you will ;-) I won't give up that easily! :D Seriously, my complaint stems from the fact that it's just as valid to do the following to populate a (so-called) form bean (that has setBar() and setBaz() methods): a

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
... and I don't really see where a web-context has anything to do with a bean being called (and named) a bean ... Obviously, if we wrote an application in C++, we probably wouldn't name anything a bean (unless we had, say coffee beans we were modeling - may likely have a bean in the class

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Taylor, Jason
-Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:30 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? Calling it RequestParameterBean causes a disconnect too. Call it what it is - we are OO folks after-all - a FormBean

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2002-09-27 Thread Eddie Bush
Good Lord! They let *anyone* on this list talk, don't they?! ;-) LOL ... I'm so glad this list is composed of the individuals it is :-) James Mitchell wrote: +1 for SasquatchBean. Although debugging those can get.(dare I say)..hairy ?!? James Mitchell Software Engineer\Struts

Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread John Owen
It's better than that damn MonkeyBean, it will drive you bananas! - Original Message - From: Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: struts 2.0 naming conventions? Good Lord! They let *anyone

RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions?

2002-09-27 Thread Taylor, Jason
Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions? I'll agree to disagree if you will ;-) I won't give up that easily! :D Seriously, my complaint stems from the fact that it's just as valid to do the following to populate a (so-called) form bean (that has setBar() and setBaz() methods

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2002-09-27 Thread Joe Barefoot
Ah hell, let's just use Irish notation and call it: MeBigBagOStuffBean ;) -Original Message- From: Taylor, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:10 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: struts 2.0 naming conventions? what about